The painful reality of beautiful women 😔

[Schizophonia]

9 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

It's just as attractive as what i imagine a men would be with a hugh gynecomastia. 

[Schizophonia]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Princess Arabia 

How come girls on Instagram are killing themselves for not being beautiful enough?

 

Men can do that too, it's just severe

 

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Princess Arabia Why is it okay for a man to be bald but not a woman? Have you thought about that?

 

For same reasons it's not normal for men to have breasts. 

 

[Buck Edwards]

1 minute ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@Etherial Cat only a complete hypocrite would claim such a thing, looks only applies to both sexes. I would definitely prefer a chick with big natural boobs and big natural ass and hips and a nice face over a woman who's inferior in any of these qualities. But they have to look and feel natural tho

I'm not sure if all "natural" women prefer big natural boobs and big natural ass lol. At least it's not appealing to me. Also if I myself had big natural boobs and ass, I would find it very inconvenient on me. It's really not fun. It looks good probably to men, but women don't enjoy it, big boobs can be quite heavy to carry around and big ass are hard to fit into pants lol. Big asses aren't that glitzy in real life. So I'm happy with my natural body and women who are happy with their natural bodies tend to reflect that happiness and it makes them more beautiful. 

[Javfly33]

On 12/15/2024 at 4:55 PM, Leo Gura said:

Women themselves value this. Which is why they are obssesed with cosmetics, clothes, hair, eyelashes, botox, and depressed from watching Instagram.

Don´t you think they value it because it is valued?

But is true that femenine energy on itself is about esthetics, symmetry. So you might have a point.

On 12/15/2024 at 5:04 PM, Sugarcoat said:

Then how much of it is biological vs comes from societal conditioning is hard to say I’m guessing it’s a combo. 
 

So you mean that since the number one value is reproduction then whatever helps her in that is what she will value ? So looks help her in finding a high value partner to reproduce with so it’s one of the reasons she will value it. 

I think it depends, there might be out there men that don´t care so much about beauty, for others it is the number #1 factor. 

Personally for me looks has always been #1, and is not because of society, but because of deeper reasons in the memory of my software. 

The only women I desire is the ones that usually are above my league physically. You could say for being a man I'm pretty "hypergamous" 😂

I was never influenced by being attracted to certain type of women (society influence). Is completely internal/karmic.

Just to give you an idea how profound karma goes, I can just look at a person hands and without exchanging a single word with him, I already can know on a 80-90% correct possibility If I will match psychologically with that person or not. I don´t even need to see his face to know it. Just a look at his hands. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Javfly33

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@Buck Edwards That's completely understandable

[Candle]

On 12/15/2024 at 8:44 PM, Basman said:

 

It was a great video. Everything she said made sense to me. 

I understand how hard it is for them. (Not fully but still....)

It's a law of nature that you can't get everything nice. Pros and cons both come together. Pain and pleasure both come together. 

She said this 

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we spend our time trying to employ a strategy for how to get someone we want.... rather than spending our time advertising who we genuinely are, so a person would love and value us. 

This is what I hate about pickup culture and those who are involved in it. (Those who just want beauty.)

While watching the video, I felt very upset seeing the inequalities and how most people in our society behave. The way they look at and treat a "beautiful" woman, the lack of freedom she has, and how most people focus on her sexuality rather than seeing her as a person. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Candle

[Basman]

17 hours ago, Davino said:

Not at all, it's more about the software than the hardware for attracting women. The opposite is the case for attracting men.

Moreover, martial arts don't make you look bulked. They strenghten the muscles within and not in the volume sense. 

Sure there's correlation between martial arts and confidence/masculinity. But if you want to get success with women go directly to that which is learning how to flirt and massive experience in the field.

 

As a fun story. In my first MMA sparring I got beaten up by a sixteen year old, which was almost half my height. On the streets nobody would say he can do that to anyone and he's quite shy. Most people that train don't look like alpha males at all, just regular guys which like to fight. Of course you always have the alpha dick head, but he gets humbled too. When you give you also receive.

I believe different sports tend to select for certain body types. In kick boxing a lot of the highly skilled guys tend to be tall and lanky with very long limbs. A lot of guys in Aikido tend to be middle-aged guys with a huge gut stretching the seam of their hakama for some reason. Maybe that's just my experience though.

Edited December 31, 2024 by Basman

[Basman]

3 hours ago, PenguinPablo said:

Explain porn then. 

This doesn't make sense.

Its the bad ass and boob jobs that men complain about. You don't notice its fake if its well done.

I have a relative who had huge boobs but one day was suddenly flat chested comparitively since she had her implants removed. I had no idea they where fake. Its a funny story since I always liked getting hugs from her for two obvious reasons (we're not biologically related). And I heard she was coming to visit so you can imagine my dissapointment when she was suddenly flat like a pancake. I remember it vividly. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Basman

[Starlight321]

@Leo GuraI think you should have rephrased it into something like beauty serves survival value so that the more beautiful women get treated way better than "not so good looking women" on average and thus have more opportunity  and surival advantage and that it runs as much as through ones personal mind through the general cultural consciousness so that the denial and handweaving is already part of it to mask the sheer starkness of survival.

However, I think you might have had this angle already in another thread. 

Edit: I think it's interesting how this might be seen from the perspective on how looks, conduct, clothes and status symbols in general help people to put other people into boxes so that they know how to behave in their presence because how important it is to know if you're dealing with a homeless person, acute mentally ill person, a hippy, a police officer or other kind. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Starlight321

[integral]

The number one thing a woman wants to hear during sex is that she’s beautiful.

While if you tell a man that he doesn’t care at all, what a man wants to be told is that he’s so good in bed. basically he wants to be complimented on his ability. 

[Etherial Cat]

6 minutes ago, integral said:

The number one thing a woman wants to hear during sex is that she’s beautiful.

Na.

I love you. 

But that's kinda the same thing.

[integral]

11 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

Na.

I love you. 

But that's kinda the same thing.

Oh, that’s true. I forgot about that one. 😂 I think the reason I was having a mindset of when you’re with someone short term versus long-term. You can’t tell them that you’re in love with them like the first time you have sex with them, but you could definitely tell them how beautiful they are and stimulate them in many other ways mentally.

So in this way, I think the beauty aspect might be more primitive and primal than the love aspect?

[Buck Edwards]

3 minutes ago, integral said:

Oh, that’s true. I forgot about that one. 😂 I think the reason I was having a mindset of when you’re with someone short term versus long-term. You can’t tell them that you’re in love with them like the first time you have sex with them, but you could definitely tell them how beautiful they are and stimulate them in many other ways mentally.

So in this way, I think the beauty aspect might be more primitive and primal than the love aspect?

You don't have to pretend that someone is beautiful. 

[integral]

14 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

You don't have to pretend that someone is beautiful. 

?? at no point did I say to pretend? If you’re having sex as a man and you say these things you don’t mean during sex then you don’t know how to have sex. Because in that scenario, you’re psychologically completely disconnected and out of the game and are functioning at a low state of sexual development.

The right way to have sex is to be 100% invested into the moment to lose yourself in that moment in a very intense almost animalistic way (for a lack of a better word). And as a man from the male perspective, you should be looking at her like she’s the most beautiful thing you’ve ever seen in a kind of mesmerized state. And this produces the most passionate highest quality sex. But this only works if she’s also completely hundred percent diving in to it and not resisting like most women do that are stuck in their head overthinking. Hold on maybe the word resisting can be misinterpreted. I mean, you know when women overthink and are not invested in the moment.

When the man is fully invested and mesmerized into it, he intuitively behaves and acts in the most passionate way that women are stimulated by to the highest level.

But I’m not talking about doing this on a first date… lol this is something that takes time and trust to build up. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by integral

[Sugarcoat]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

I think it depends, there might be out there men that don´t care so much about beauty, for others it is the number #1 factor. 

Personally for me looks has always been #1, and is not because of society, but because of deeper reasons in the memory of my software. 

The only women I desire is the ones that usually are above my league physically. You could say for being a man I'm pretty "hypergamous" 😂

I was never influenced by being attracted to certain type of women (society influence). Is completely internal/karmic.

Just to give you an idea how profound karma goes, I can just look at a person hands and without exchanging a single word with him, I already can know on a 80-90% correct possibility If I will match psychologically with that person or not. I don´t even need to see his face to know it. Just a look at his hands. 

At least you know what you like. I think for many men looks is number one factor. 

[Buck Edwards]

6 minutes ago, integral said:

And as a man from the male perspective, you should be looking at her like she’s the most beautiful thing you’ve ever seen in a kind of mesmerized state.

I mean if she is not beautiful in your eyes, why are you having sex with her? It doesn't make sense. 

[integral]

23 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

I mean if she is not beautiful in your eyes, why are you having sex with her? It doesn't make sense. 

That’s actually a really great question and it happens a lot.

The sex is enjoyable regardless if you think she’s genuinely beautiful or not, or if you were mostly lying. Because if for example, if she ask you if she looks fat in these clothes, the right answer is to lie because you love her, or your socially intelligent, and understand that a question purpose is to communicate an emotion and not autisticly communicating truth.

Also You could love her and not think she’s beautiful. And so if you’re having sex with her, it’s because you’re in love with her. Normally when you’re in love with her and you enjoy having sex with her then you generally think she’s beautiful even if a different part of your brain think she she’s not. There’s many types of beauty.

Or you don’t think she’s beautiful and your not in love with her and you’re just telling her she’s beautiful so you can have sex with her because men will enjoy sex regardless.

Some men emotionally manipulate for good intentions and some do it for personal gain. And it’s always some mix of both and always some mix of selfishness and love. lol

you could have sex with a man and not think he’s hot. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by integral

[something_else]

24 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

I mean if she is not beautiful in your eyes, why are you having sex with her? It doesn't make sense. 

Because a lot of men are extremely horny and not very picky because of that. Many will have sex with women who they aren't attracted to, they just want to have sex.

Edited December 31, 2024 by something_else

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, something_else said:

Because a lot of men are extremely horny and not very picky because of that. Many will have sex with women who they aren't attracted to just to nut.

Thats sad because she doesn't deserve that. 

[integral]

15 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Thats sad because she doesn't deserve that. 

You gotta be smart enough to avoid these men. It’s a skill.

But you’re not gonna get it right all the time like you’re gonna be wrong before you figure it out. And there’s gonna be luck involved.

Edited December 31, 2024 by integral