The painful reality of beautiful women 😔

[Natasha Tori Maru]

This has all gone slightly off topic but ~

Humans are attracted to beautiful things.

I don't think this quality is relegated to one sex.

I don't think it is about sex, necessarily.

Babies stare at beautiful faces as if transfixed.

It is just simply human nature to covet what is unusual, and beauty is viewed as a commodity. Historically, at least.

[AION]

5 hours ago, Quader said:

@AION These battles are games imbued with a violence and lust that could be similarly found in any highly engaging contest that you enjoy. Violence is just one type of emotion, and it is certainly not all you've cracked it up to be. You get to choose what you attribute spirit to, very rarely is that a catch all classic game of war. Unless if you're that kind of person, and you can bring out the divinity within it if you like. But make no mistake, it's a dead end friend

It's one thing to find enjoyment in a hobby but then another to claim that being able to sudo chop someone in a contest is a core tenant in spirituality. 

 

The war of art can be applied to  all fields in life. That is true. 
 

For me it is ideal because it is a good work out too. No other sport is so intensive. 
 

And I need to work out anyway to stay healthy so I combine it with the mental and spiritual aspect to make my hobby holistic. 

[gettoefl]

3 hours ago, Candle said:

If there were no humans on the planet but one woman, she wouldn't care about her beauty. If no one were watching, she wouldn't wear any makeup. She would just look normal... Neither ugly, nor beautiful.)

It's a cleverly designed society.

Women were made to wear short, revealing clothes and show cleavage. They were made to wear jewelery and makeup and dance in front of a male crowd. And now these are so deep rooted in our cultural DNA that women are unaware of it. They deny that they do these things for attracting men.

Women want to attract men, that's why they want to look beautiful. It's all about survival. 

Men also do the same. But not as much as women do. Men have different values than women. 

I'm not saying this is bad. 

Well said. Females are conditioned to put tremendous stock in presentability and looking their best. They know this brings appreciation and rewards. Once trained this is automatic and is near impossible to untrain even when she gets to 80yo and stays indoors all day. It's what she has always done, it is what her friends and family expect, it is who she is. Males by contrast are honest that they look good for the purpose of engaging females (and for climbing the corporate ladder if required). (If you meet a man during the day wearing a suit and tie, someone probably you is being billed by the minute for that suit and tie - heads up. He isn't wearing it out of choice.) Females do it for the appreciation and rewards mentioned but it is not in a female's interest to deconstruct this state of affairs. Just repeat, I look good in order to feel good. That's all it is, nothing more.

Edited December 31, 2024 by gettoefl

[Buck Edwards]

4 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Well said. Females are conditioned to put tremendous stock in presentability and looking their best. They know this brings appreciation and rewards. Once trained this is automatic and is near impossible to untrain even when she gets to 80yo and stays indoors all day. It's what she has always done, it is what her friends and family expect, it is who she is. Males by contrast are honest that they look good for the purpose of engaging females (and for keeping up in the workforce if required). Females do it for the appreciation and rewards mentioned but it is not in a female's interest to deconstruct this state of affairs. Just repeat, I look good in order to feel good. That's all it is, nothing more.

I don't relate much to it because I never paid much attention to it. Yet when I see other women do it, I can feel their insecurity and they tell me it feels torture to them. Being that self obsessed is going to cause a mental disorder. I have to confess that sometimes I did it to, not to get male attention, probably to feel equal to other females in my peers, but I got stressed out the more I got self obsessed, it's like dudes who go to the gym and constantly compare to other dudes, it can reach unhealthy levels, if not checked. 

[AION]

3 hours ago, Candle said:

If there were no humans on the planet but one woman, she wouldn't care about her beauty. If no one were watching, she wouldn't wear any makeup. She would just look normal... Neither ugly, nor beautiful.)

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I think that is an assumption.

If there was only 1 regular woman on the planet, she would still be obsessed with her beauty, because she wouldn't know what to do other than that.

Most of the vanity that women have is for themselves. Not for guys. Like there are statistics that say guys are not interested in cosmetic boob and ass jobs but when you ask women, they think boob and ass jobs are important while guys don't care about that shit.

Edited December 31, 2024 by AION

[Candle]

27 minutes ago, AION said:

there was only 1 regular woman on the planet, she would still be obsessed with her beauty, because she wouldn't know what to do other than that.

You didn't get it. Visualize carefully. If she is still obsessed with beauty while she's alone, it's bcz of her past habits or conditioning. 

Or maybe boredom. But for how long she would decorate herself if no one is watching? 

30 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

not to get male attention, probably to feel equal to other females in my peers,

Good point. ❤️ 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Candle

[AION]

1 minute ago, Candle said:

You didn't get it. Don't consider her past actions and social conditioning already done. 

Good point. ❤️ 

Look my edit:

Most of the vanity that women have is for themselves. Not for guys. Like there are statistics that say guys are not interested in cosmetic boob and ass jobs but when you ask women, they think boob and ass jobs are important while guys don't care about that shit.

 

Edited December 31, 2024 by AION

[Buck Edwards]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

Like there are statistics that say guys are not interested in cosmetic boob and ass jobs

No. Women are not interested in boob and ass jobs. Any of female colleagues never did it. The percentage of women who want boob and ass jobs is extremely low. Just like the percentage of men who take steroidz to look muscular is extremely low. 

Also these procedures are quite expensive. Not everyone has the money or access to it. 

And I don't like the idea of a boob or ass job myself. The reason - Well I already know that most men don't like it. They already tell me that. 

[AION]

@Buck Edwards In India it is not common, but in some places plastic surgery is more common because it is more accessible and affordable.

[PenguinPablo]

12 minutes ago, AION said:

Look my edit:

Most of the vanity that women have is for themselves. Not for guys. Like there are statistics that say guys are not interested in cosmetic boob and ass jobs but when you ask women, they think boob and ass jobs are important while guys don't care about that shit.

 

Explain porn then. 

This doesn't make sense.

[gettoefl]

14 minutes ago, AION said:

I think that is an assumption.

If there was only 1 regular woman on the planet, she would still be obsessed with her beauty, because she wouldn't know what to do other than that.

Most of the vanity that women have is for themselves. Not for guys. Like there are statistics that say guys are not interested in cosmetic boob and ass jobs but when you ask women, they think boob and ass jobs are important while guys don't care about that shit.

They say I am doing this for me. They can then feel strong and independent and empowered. They have not questioned it deeply. They would rather self esteem than truthful answers.

[Buck Edwards]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

@Buck Edwards In India it is not common, but in some places plastic surgery is more common because it is more accessible and affordable.

Whether I live in America or Japan or Costa Rica, I still won't get a boob job. Carry out a survey in America and you won't see a lot of people getting boob jobs. This is an internet trend, not reality. Don't talk about women in las Vegas because you aren't living in Las Vegas. 

[Candle]

30 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

Carry out a survey in America and you won't see a lot of people getting boob jobs

Yes, normal citizens won't do it. 

It's common in film industry and among influencers. And both males and females undergo surgeries to look good on TV. 

Edited December 31, 2024 by Candle

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Candle said:

Yes, normal citizens won't do it. 

It's common in film industry and among influencers. And both males and females do this to look good on TV. 

True. 

[AION]

@Buck Edwards You are lucky you live in India then. People don't care about that shit.

[Etherial Cat]

Beauty can draw attention, but attention in itself is not inherently fulfilling.

In fact, it often comes with significant downsides—unwanted attraction, projections, envy, and lust—all of which are far removed from genuine appreciation and love.

Having been surrounded by exceptionally beautiful women since my teenage years, I’ve seen firsthand the perks that beauty can bring. But I’ve also learned that it’s not enough to sustain meaningful, fulfilling relationships. Beauty is fleeting, and without the deeper foundation of a person’s character and essence, it offers little to build upon.

Ultimately, beauty is a double-edged sword—captivating yet impermanent, alluring yet insufficient for the kind of connection that truly lasts.

Both men and women often chase physical beauty, driven partly by shadow motivations—seeking beauty as a substitute for being loved—and by our predominantly Stage Orange culture. In this culture, external validation and societal beauty standards influence our self-esteem far more than necessary.

Beauty is ultimately a matter of perception and extends far beyond the merely physical. Men are naturally attracted to feminine beauty, but with maturity, the depth of what beauty means transcends the physical. It becomes about more than just an impeccable exterior.

What could I do out of someone who is absolutely gorgeous, masculine, and all of that if he can't meet my depths? Be a foolish clown? Or see the beauty in the more subtle? 

[Buck Edwards]

1 minute ago, Etherial Cat said:

Both men and women often chase physical beauty, driven partly by shadow motivations—seeking beauty as a substitute for being loved—and by our predominantly Stage Orange culture. In this culture, external validation and societal beauty standards influence our self-esteem far more than necessary.

They often make it look like only women chase beauty. 

[Etherial Cat]

Just now, Buck Edwards said:

They often make it look like only women chase beauty. 

Hahaha.

Yeah, they'll tell you one day that beauty (here synonymous with good looks) doesn't matter for a man, and the next day complain that Chad with his square jaw stole all the good girls. 

 

 

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Etherial Cat said:

Hahaha.

Yeah, they'll tell you one day that beauty (here synonymous with good looks) doesn't matter for a man, and the next day complain that Chad with his square jaw stole all the good girls. 

 

 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@Etherial Cat only a complete hypocrite would claim such a thing, "looks only" principle applies to both sexes. I would definitely prefer a chick with big natural boobs and big natural ass and hips and a nice face over a woman who's inferior in any of these qualities. But they have to look and feel natural tho

Edited December 31, 2024 by NewKidOnTheBlock