The painful reality of beautiful women 😔

[Kairos]

@Leo Gura Do you think learning Martial Arts is necessary for a man to be considered masculine ? As physical strength is a part of traditional masculinity too

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Kairos said:

Do you think learning Martial Arts is necessary for a man to be considered masculine ?

Not at all.

Martial arts is for the male ego to feel better about itself. The male equivalent of a boob job.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Not at all.

Martial arts is for the male ego to feel better about itself.

So what can make a man more masculine other than taking up leadership roles? 

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Buck Edwards said:

So what can make a man more masculine other than taking up leadership roles? 

Contemplate what masculine actually is and then embody it.

Not that that's even necessary. You can just be yourself.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Kairos]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Not at all.

Martial arts is for the male ego to feel better about itself. The male equivalent of a boob job.

@Leo Gura No way bro I think it gives one confidence , feel safer .

It's not some superficial thing like a boob job.

Think if you're unable to physically defend your girl she'll just think you're weak and feminine and will leave you .

[Kairos]

9 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

So what can make a man more masculine other than taking up leadership roles? 

You're a girl right ? So tell me What is more attractive to you a guy that can fight or one who can't .

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Kairos said:

it gives one confidence , feel safer .

That's what I said.

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Think if you're unable to physically defend your girl she'll just think you're weak and feminine and will leave you .

If you think that, you're already pathetic and don't understand girls.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Contemplate what masculine actually is and then embody it.

Not that that's even necessary. You can just be yourself.

I find a lot of guys struggle with this immensely. They want to be their best ideal masculine self and they are very dissatisfied and disappointed when they can't achieve that. Being oneself is always easy but that doesn't present a challenge and causes a lot of guys to be complacent to the point they might even begin to resent themselves. So I guess learning how to be the ideal masculine is quite important for a lot of men out there. 

[Leo Gura]

Not caring whether you are preceived as masculine is peak masculine.

The most masculine trait is not caring if you're masculine. If you care what others think of you then you're failing at masculinity.

Trying hard to appear alpha is very cringe. Which is the trap of immature masculinity.

The problem with all these MMA guys is that they try too hard. They are clearly over-compensating for something. It's the same problem as girls with ugly lip-fillers, makeup, and fake nails. They are overdoing it due to lack of self-awareness.

Your aim should be to be as natural as possible. Without pretense and posturing.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Kairos]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's what I said.

If you think that, you're already pathetic and don't understand girls.

@Leo Gura that's not my opinion and it's just what I've seen happen first person experience .

Isn't it evolutionary for women to be attracted to stronger males so that they can defend their family .

And I didn't mean to say that to u personally,I was just asking and I'm still open minded to your perspective .

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Kairos said:

Isn't it evolutionary for women to be attracted to stronger males so that they can defend their family

What women look for is leadership, not MMA skills.

Women are also attracted to masculine physical appearance. If you look more masculine more women will sleep with you.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Kairos]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What women look for is leadership, not MMA skills.

@Leo Gura leadership and vision okay .

Thanks for the clarity .The Mma skills etc I got it from my friends from boxing gym and watching Joe rogan he talks about it a lot that had me convinced haha 

[ricachica]

@Kairos As someone who has dated an amateur MMA fighter/trainer…definitely not important.

My boyfriend now is a supervisor at a hospital though, so I guess I am attracted to leadership in some sense…more so anyone who has a dedicated passion of any sort.

Though I was also once deeply in love with a guy who had zero going on for him(besides being really good looking ofc), even getting banned from DoorDash…but he was amazing at being himself. He was passionate about life itself and highly contemplative. We could talk for days on end, barely sleeping. He turned me down though lmao.

Edited December 30, 2024 by ricachica

[Buck Edwards]

19 minutes ago, Kairos said:

You're a girl right ? So tell me What is more attractive to you a guy that can fight or one who can't .

It's not so much about attraction but basic protection. Women like the leadership and protective instinct of the masculine. But in real situations I would actually be a bit worried if my man is involved in a fight. Because I don't want him harmed or physically injured in any way so I will discourage him from getting into fights and probably tell him to de-escalate and leave the scene for the sake of his safety. But I would definitely feel warm inside that he has the instinct to protect me, it would make me feel cared for. 

[Leo Gura]

What trumps everything else is emotional stimulation. Women will sleep with anyone who can emotionally stimulate them. So when women sleep with bums, losers, serial killers, psychopaths, rapists, ugly guys, fat guys, bald guys -- it's because they know how to emotionally manipulate women.

And that's all game is: emotional manipulation.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[ricachica]

1 minute ago, Buck Edwards said:

But in real situations I would actually be a bit worried if my man is involved in a fight. Because I don't want him harmed or physically injured in any way so I will discourage him from getting into fights and probably tell him to de-escalate and leave the scene for the sake of his safety. But I would definitely feel warm inside that he has the instinct to protect me, it would make me feel cared for. 

I agree. I actually found it more attractive when my boyfriend backed off from a group of dudes trying to instigate with us while passing by in narrow alley downtown… I would have been so pissed at him and stressed out if he escalated in that situation.

[Buck Edwards]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What trumps everything else is emotional stimulation. Women will sleep with anyone who can emotionally stimulate them. So when women sleep with bums, losers, serial killers, psychopaths, rapists, ugly guys, fat guys, bald guys -- it's because they know how to emotionally manipulate women.

So men sleep with saintly women all the time? Men sleep with toxic women so often not caring about her character or moral values, just because she is charming or hot. What do you have to say about that? 

[Buck Edwards]

@Leo Gura it's not like men don't get emotionally stimulated by attractive women and men make bad dating choices too. Cmon.. 

[Leo Gura]

Men sleep with the most beautiful women. Which is why women are obsessed with beauty.

This isn't rocket science.

Edited December 30, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Men sleep with the most beautiful women. Which is why women are obessed with beauty.

Right. And that women might be a criminal and they will still want to sleep with her. So your argument earlier was biased against women. It works both ways. Men also the do the same as women just in a different context, maybe not emotional stimulation but physical and sexual stimulation.