The painful reality of beautiful women 😔

[Xonas Pitfall]

@Leo Gura I meant just a general quick summary or key takeaway points, but no worries - I understand it's a complex matter. Thank you!

[Emerald]

18 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

How flippant.

Understanding how a woman's survival functions shape her behavior and psychology is a very non-trivial matter.

Of course it does, but how does that get conveyed in a way that's helpful to men by simply saying women's #1 value is reproduction?

What was it that you're trying to get men to understand about women?

Also, how does this help men understand women if women can only reproduce for 20-30 years out of their life? Wouldn't that create a huge blindspot in understanding women of all ages (including ones in their child-bearing years)? 

And how do you want men to change their thinking or behavior in relation to that understanding you're trying to convey?

This is what's unclear to me about what you're saying... if it's directed towards men.

To me, it doesn't seem like you're really teaching anything that isn't either obvious... or wrapped up in social should or should nots around women's behavior and role in society.

[AION]

57 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Fantasies.

The wealth from AI will be hoarded by a handful of elites while the majority remain wage slaves serving the AI overlords.

We will probably have a different economic model by then. Probably a general income for everybody. A lot of disruption in the work force.  Programs for people to develop themselves and be creative. People becoming desperate and finding god. Exciting times await us. 

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

By physical you mean physical appearance?

Yes.

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Nowadays I don’t worry too much about it all. It’s very subtle for me. I’ve told you I’m trying to loose a little weight (although I’m already slim) so maybe I give of that impression but once again it’s quite subtle for me not something big. 

Me writing about for example our looks obsessed society is not a complaint, I don’t feel anything about it when I write it. It’s just discussing a point.

In the same way me writing about how women can easily sleep with men but that doesn’t mean she finds men of quality is also not a compliant . Once again I don’t feel anything about it when I write it. It’s discussion. 

I don’t have an emotional relationship to these topics. And it is true that I don’t worry about finding a partner at all. 

 

Because you are disconnected from yourself and have a tendency towards denial at the base, but that does not change the fact that your brain, your being goes in certain directions and these directions are emotionally motivated (which makes you choose these and not others).

But in fact everyone is more or less in denial, the ego itself is an onion of denial in its structure.
It is a whole work of contemplation to determine how one's psyche works.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

2 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

 

You made me think of homemade tomato soup yum

Suuup

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes.

Because you are disconnected from yourself and have a tendency towards denial at the base, but that does not change the fact that your brain, your being goes in certain directions and these directions are emotionally motivated (which makes you choose these and not others).

But in fact everyone is more or less in denial, the ego itself is an onion of denial in its structure.
It is a whole work of contemplation to determine how one's psyche works.

 

Disagree about the denial part. But that’s fine

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

No, I wasn't offended. I don't think my response showed I was even bothered by it, only a bit entertained.

As far as the rest of your comment, it's just your mind making up stories and making sense of reality. It's all empty reasonings and a way for us to feel human and to matter. Life don't give a shit about our explanations and storybook land. All that explaining was cleverly put together by the cunning mind and take all that away, you have raw truth of what happened and it was just letters on a friggin screen that means nothing.

lol your mental gymnastics works with any logical reasoning, it is fallacious; it does not contradict what i said.

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Love you.

But me too my dear hot black philosopher escort.

Throw a piece of baguette at the face*

Edited 13 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

8 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Disagree about the denial part. But that’s fine

So, where is this "swedish restaurant" ?🤔

He must be somewhere.

Edited 13 hours ago by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Fantasies.

The wealth from AI will be hoarded by a handful of elites while the majority remain wage slaves serving the AI overlords.

There will be a socialist overthrow and distribution of wealth, that is the most logical.

[Tenebroso]

I think social media has decreased the mystique of beautiful women

[Jayson G]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Fantasies.

The wealth from AI will be hoarded by a handful of elites while the majority remain wage slaves serving the AI overlords.

I personally know people making 6-figures to millions with AI building solutions for businesses, B2B on top of these tools built by these big corps. 

I don't think its as simple as 95% money to the elites, and the rest are slaves. There's all kinds of corners and creative uses of AI, where people can reach some kind of middle ground. 

Also don't forget AI startups like Eleven Labs, etc. 

[Schizophonia]

55 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I bet the one I saw with blood pudding was

🤔

[hoodrow trillson]

If "the number one thing valued in women is physical beauty",

What is the number one thing valued in men?

[Etherial Cat]

It’s often said that women’s primary purpose is to have children, but doesn’t this overlook something essential? Both genders play complementary, symbiotic roles in reproduction—neither exists without the other in this process.

If we were to follow that logic further, one could argue that men’s physical strength serves the sole purpose of protecting women and their offspring. Yet we know it’s far more nuanced than that.

Framing women solely as ‘baby-makers’ not only diminishes our full humanity and capacities to do other things but also implies that men alone hold inherent value, existing for themselves while women are reduced to accessories in the act of creation. The second, subservient sex to the other one.

The narrative that women exist primarily for motherhood or are the second sex to men is outdated and does not reflect reality. There are countless women who are exceptionally competent, accomplished, and articulate, contributing meaningfully to society (and this include this forum) in ways that go far beyond this role. 

[Etherial Cat]

Silly me, I should go autoimpregnante myself like a female python .

 

 

[aurum]

7 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

If we were to follow that logic further, one could argue that men’s physical strength serves the sole purpose of protecting women and their offspring.

That's actually pretty accurate. 

[thinkingmonkey3]

5 hours ago, Emerald said:

Of course it does, but how does that get conveyed in a way that's helpful to men by simply saying women's #1 value is reproduction?

What was it that you're trying to get men to understand about women?

Also, how does this help men understand women if women can only reproduce for 20-30 years out of their life? Wouldn't that create a huge blindspot in understanding women of all ages (including ones in their child-bearing years)? 

And how do you want men to change their thinking or behavior in relation to that understanding you're trying to convey?

This is what's unclear to me about what you're saying... if it's directed towards men.

To me, it doesn't seem like you're really teaching anything that isn't either obvious... or wrapped up in social should or should nots around women's behavior and role in society.

I think what he means is that men should not expect unconditional love from a woman. Her love is conditional on your ability to provide the optimal conditions (emotionally, materially, and otherwise) to support her in raising a child, particularly when compared to other potential mates.

 

[Etherial Cat]

3 minutes ago, aurum said:

That's actually pretty accurate. 

What becomes problematic is using this reasoning to reduce men’s sole purpose to reproduction—just as Leo did with women.

If that argument held up, the logical conclusion would be that the main purpose of both genders is reproduction. Yet, this is rarely said about men. The underlying implication is often that a man's purpose transcends reproduction, while women are reduced to the role of child-bearers. In some cases, this narrative is conveniently framed to allow men to prioritize their own ambitions while women are expected to sacrifice themselves—often in the name of love or an idealized version of the 'Madonna".

Metaphysically speaking, the purpose of the Masculine isn’t simply to thrive and accomplish for itself like it's the Chad gender. Its deeper role is to love, honor, and protect the Feminine in its full expression. And in it's human form, it also means recognizing and valuing the Feminine beyond its reproductive role and checking out of its current naval gazing tendencies. 

[Etherial Cat]

Kiddos need their mum as much as their dad.

[aurum]

10 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

If that argument held up, the logical conclusion would be that the main purpose of both genders is reproduction.

The logical conclusion is that both men and women are essentially survival machines, just with different functions. Which is correct.

The point of this discussion should be to become aware of that.