How I figured out what the ego is

[Flowerfaeiry]

After many many years of just not getting it I finally figured out what the ego is. This has been a huge missing piece in my spiritual development and once I learned, I was really able to start living more fully from my heart. The ego is simply the false self. And the piece that made me really “get it” is understanding that the ego masks *fully and completely* as the real self. To the point that we can’t tell the difference. They seem literally identical. Something about understanding that made me be like “ohh, now I can finally get down to the nitty gritty and start to figure out what my True Self really is vs. my ego self”. Maybe this will help you if you just haven’t really “gotten it” in terms of what the ego is or if this is old news to you too, lemme know how you finally “figured it out.”

[integral]

This is big progress congratulations! Most people don’t get this for. Ego stroking complete. 

[LifeEnjoyer]

Is there any ego in your experience right now?

[Flowerfaeiry]

Bro of course. To be completely without ego is to be dead

[LifeEnjoyer]

Just now, Flowerfaeiry said:

Bro of course. To be completely without ego is to be dead

It's just a construction no? Am I misunderstanding what ego is? help lol

[James123]

@Flowerfaeiry ego is the universe.

[Will1125]

your title is very egoic 

[Sugarcoat]

For me the ego is just the entire human self that is a mental construct of the brain

[gettoefl]

Ego is the absolute permitting the unconscious programming to play out in people

and not letting them know there is a different choice that can be made

To mess with this would be a violation of your free will and sovereignty 

A choice is available every moment throughout the day

Leave the house and say to all via your thoughts:

You have never done anything bad (judgement) and I will no longer give you a hard time for doing what you had to do (love)

Everyone is walking around drugged and dazed and playing out their programming which they consider unstoppable

Everyone is god's host and I tamp down ego by seeing you the way I want to see myself as god's fragment

Ego reduction happens one encounter at a time

Eventually the world is transformed and I am transformed and ego is then a distant memory

Edited Sunday at 12:34 PM by gettoefl

[UnbornTao]

I'd say beyond intellectually concluding something, we have yet to experience what this real and false self is all about.

Seems to me ego is an aspect of self, although it depends on how each thing is held by you. Anyway, we take ourselves to be something-maybe that itself, our whole sense of self, is not true--but for us it certainly appears to be that way--what's more real to us than our selves? 

Regarding the true self, that's up for grabs, really. It might not even be a self to begin with. 

Something to consider.

Edited Sunday at 01:03 PM by UnbornTao

[Ishanga]

Tolle's book New Earth, which is all about Ego, he goes indepth on it, really awakened my to my Ego and how it functions, when that happens its an awakening and You cannot go back to normal after that..

Its the Identification with Ego, a false self, mask of sorts used for social situations and communication, its Survival level stuff, not Consciousness level stuff... that is the problem, thinking/believing You are the Ego or Mask, then it is a problem, if You know You are not this mask and its a real experience then no problem with Ego...its needed in a society with many different sorts of ppl living within it..

[Flowerfaeiry]

@LifeEnjoyer I’m not a master in this subject but yes I think the ego is a construction. What are you trying to understand? For me learning about the ego has helped me live a more heart-centered and loving life because I’ve been able to distinguish between the two. You have to understand that this is nuanced, because while yes we are all living in a construct, we are also made of the divine unseen All. Everything comes from that Source and “good and bad”, ego and heart, are all divine. What are you trying to figure out by learning about the ego? For me I wanted to learn about the ego so I could be more loving because I saw that my ego was not as loving as my heart. And yes, all is love, AND there are distinguishing qualities of living in love vs. living in fear. 

[Flowerfaeiry]

@Ishanga I read that book a long time ago and still don’t get it after that. Probably confused me more haha but I feel like I would really get something out of it now 

[Flowerfaeiry]

@UnbornTao I would say there’s more to understanding real and true self beyond intellectual understanding 

[Razard86]

There are actually two True Selves. The first true self is the purely honest human mind with all of its biases. You have to first uncover that true self. Once you discover that true self then you can enter an altered state through some means and talk to the largest true self which is the automaker of your thoughts. 

This version of you is asleep as Being and can only awaken by you being honest in your inner communication with yourself. You can only ever know the True Big Self through the True Little Self. So to thine ownself be true and you will discover what truth is. 

Edited Sunday at 03:06 PM by Razard86

[UnbornTao]

2 hours ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

@UnbornTao I would say there’s more to understanding real and true self beyond intellectual understanding 

Other animals seem to be doing fine without ego, so what is it? 

Trying to challenge the assumption that there is something to be found that is our real selves. Perhaps there is--after all, we exist-- however, by nature it must be different from what we think it is. 

Edited Sunday at 05:18 PM by UnbornTao

[Ishanga]

36 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

There are actually two True Selves. The first true self is the purely honest human mind with all of its biases. You have to first uncover that true self. Once you discover that true self then you can enter an altered state through some means and talk to the largest true self which is the automaker of your thoughts. 

This version of you is asleep as Being and can only awaken by you being honest in your inner communication with yourself. You can only ever know the True Big Self through the True Little Self. So to thine ownself be true and you will discover what truth is. 

I would not say there are Two True Selves, if that is so, then one needs medical/psychological help.. There is only One You within, everything else is accumulated and gathered on top of this true one Self, this accumulation process is needed to live this Embodied Life, if is is not happening, then there is no Embodied Life and we will have no Experience and Expression possible, and that is why we are here to explore this dual, material, Experience/Expression game, so Absolute can know itself, we are the Absolute fundamentally, with a form, body/mind complex dealing with this dual material karmic world...

[Flowerfaeiry]

48 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Most animals seem to be doing fine without ego, so what is it? 

Trying to challenge the assumption that there is something to be found that is our real selves. Perhaps there is--after all, we exist-- however, by nature it must be different from what we think it is. 

I would say a lot of it is in your felt experience. You feel like there is more to this existence for a reason probably, right? Maybe there’s nothing to it, maybe there is! I’ve personally always felt like there was something “more” probably much of that was due to my religious upbringing and then later on psychedelics sort of “told” me there was more…but lately I’ve been going through a faith crisis and realizing that much of what I believed was unconsciously just due to what I’d been taught by my parents and society. But I still deep down feel like there’s something special here so I’m going deeper so that my faith is based in something more real.

[ChrisZoZo]

@Flowerfaeiry not to burst your bubble, but I thought the same and now I don’t think I know actually. I have heard of there being positive and negative ego and I dont think the positive ego goes after enlightenment so yea. Just be open to being wrong that’s all I’ll say. 

[Flowerfaeiry]

@ChrisZoZo wrong about which part. Something special?