How to be like Osho?

[coca]

@PurpleTree When you study marketing you understand how powerful of an effect a huge brand like Rolex has on the subconscious. I’d say that is the main value of a Rolex, it makes you “worldly, and “cultured”. The history, beauty, refined/timeless design reinforce this effect. 

[Javfly33]

48 minutes ago, coca said:

@Davino @Javfly33 Leo has an interesting aversion towards mainstream brands/collectibles like Cars,Rolex, jewelry, and designer, and gravitates towards the more “autistic/nerdy” sort of collectibles that don’t get you laid. This often stems from early trauma related to missing out on sexual experiences while developing ones life purpose, and it is currently the biggest problem I struggle with today. 

 

Nothing that a 350$ logo Gucci t shirt can not fix!

Now serious...I dont think is because of trauma, I think he just have different taste. Actually most people is like him, they dont care about high end stuff, they see It as a rip off

[PurpleTree]

48 minutes ago, coca said:

@PurpleTree When you study marketing you understand how powerful of an effect a huge brand like Rolex has on the subconscious. I’d say that is the main value of a Rolex, it makes you “worldly, and “cultured”. The history, beauty, refined/timeless design reinforce this effect. 

That’s why i said maybe not specifically a Rolex but another swiss luxury wtch can just be appreciated as a nice piece. I can appreciate a rolex for it’s looks, mechanics and history. But i wouldn’t want one because its just the watch that every braggadocious guy and drug dealer etc had.

[coca]

@Javfly33 Do you not consider the thousand dollar African masks, paintings, and fossils Leo posts on his ig as high end?

[PurpleTree]

I’d rather have a Rolex day date, presidential, sky dweller etc. than an african or hawaiian mask for sure.

[Princess Arabia]

17 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Nothing that a 350$ logo Gucci t shirt can not fix!

Now serious...I dont think is because of trauma, I think he just have different taste. Actually most people is like him, they dont care about high end stuff, they see It as a rip off

That's because they can't afford it. Most wealthy people don't talk like that.  

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, coca said:

@Javfly33 Do you not consider the thousand dollar African masks, paintings, and fossils Leo posts on his ig as high end?

Is that how much they're worth?

[Javfly33]

32 minutes ago, coca said:

@Javfly33 Do you not consider the thousand dollar African masks, paintings, and fossils Leo posts on his ig as high end?

That's true. But let's say mainstream high end. 

Is like audiophiles that spend 700$ on some headphones. Yes, is high end on its sector. But you can not show it off, is not considered status because no one will know those headphones cost 700$ if you ever are seen wearing them 

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Javfly33 said:

That's true. But let's say mainstream high end. 

Is like audiophiles that spend 700$ on some headphones. Yes, is high end on its sector. But you can not show it off, is not considered status because no one will know those headphones cost 700$ if you ever are seen wearing them 

What about cars? 

[Javfly33]

23 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That's because they can't afford it. Most wealthy people don't talk like that.  

Not neccessarily. People have priorities of spending.

I spent 250$ just a few days ago on a Balmain t-shirt and I absolutely "can not afford it". And it was on sale. Can you believe it?

Actually latest 3-4 years and I've been living on a high budget/high quality, from clothing to renting expensive apartments with rooms that I don´t even use. Kind of ridiculous.

But...I don´t save anything. I haven´t gone holidays for years. 

Most people are usually too concerned with the incredible achievement of buying a house so they'd claw their eyes out if they ever had to spend 250$ on a cotton t shirt. Even though they'd make x3 than me! Isn´t that funny. Is all priorities and the mindset. 

With an empty bank account I am richer than lots of 'rich' people with fat bank accounts. Some people more money get accumulate more fearful they get about spending it. Is crazy.

 Is like those ones that buy a Bugatti but never drive it because they are scared of damaging it. So they buy a Bugatti to always have in the garage 😂 is so funny

[Javfly33]

11 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

What about cars? 

what about them? I think they are a very good asset, I always have wanted to have an S63 AMG

I'd save for a S63 before saving for a house. You only live once. You can only show off your house when people come to see it but you can show off your AMG every damn day anywhere, is obvious what is the best choice. 

Edited yesterday at 02:13 PM by Javfly33

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Javfly33 said:

what about them? I think they are a very good asset, I always have wanted to have an S63 AMG

I'd save for a S63 before saving for a house. You only live once. You can only show off your house when people come to see it but you can show off your AMG every damn day, is obvious what is the best choice. 

Cars are like the worst investment in terms of depreciation compared to a rolex or whatever. Also who are you going to show off to? Nobody cares about your car. Buy a small kia piccanto and you’re fine. I mean if cars are your thing fine. But just to show off? 

[Breakingthewall]

For me, anything that involves showing off is self-humiliation. The translation is always: deep down I see myself as less, so I want to seem more. The fact of wearing something to show off creates a feeling of murderous aggression towards others, since it seems to me that I am in their hands, submissive, bowing my head before their judgment, which makes me hate them. As I prefer to avoid such toxic feelings, I avoid any ostentation, but anyway sometimes I hate them because I'm very conciouss of their power on me, I'm not free, I don't fool myself 

Edited yesterday at 02:35 PM by Breakingthewall

[lostingenosmaze]

22 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Why else would anyone wear a Rolex?

Think about it. The only reason to wear a Rolex is to show off. There is literally no other purpose to it.

If I wore a Rolex in my videos I would hope you guys would die from laughing at the cringe.

Bro can understand and marvel at the mechanics behind a pinball machine but can't seem to appreciate the machinery crafted behind a 40 mm dail. Cringe!

 

Edited yesterday at 04:29 PM by lostingenosmaze

[Lyubov]

I don’t think there’s anything necessarily wrong with a Rolex. It’s a beautiful watch and it does indeed display luxury and craftsmanship. It would definitely help in business and potentially attracting a woman who wants a financially well off man. I think too many people define their own personal worth or judge people who can’t afford this though, in addition people spend above their means and buy this stuff then have to pawn it when some bills come in. Be wise with your money. Don’t live above your means. 

[gettoefl]

23 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

He didn't need money because he feeds by attention not by money, he was a star, huge ego. When he was 10 days in jail he cried a lot

Could you show me a paragraph from one of his talks when he displays some ego.

Seems to me he cared not a jot who listened to him

and all the devises he used were to show the listener their attachments, beliefs and conditioning

Did you know that he taught without charge 360 days for 35 years for the betterment of humanity:

https://www.sannyas.wiki/index.php?title=Osho_Events

His entire catalogue is online for everyone to study.

Have I or you done anything helpful for humanity?

 

Edited 11 hours ago by gettoefl

[Breakingthewall]

20 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Could you show me a paragraph from one of his talks when he displays some ego.

Seems to me he cared not a jot who listened to him

and all the devises he used were to show the listener their attachments, beliefs and conditioning

Did you know that he taught without charge 360 days for 35 years for the betterment of humanity:

https://www.sannyas.wiki/index.php?title=Osho_Events

His entire catalogue is online for everyone to study.

Have I or you done anything helpful for humanity?

 

I didn't say that he wasn't useful, I just think that he was a liar in some sense. I think that he was extremely smart but not enlightened, and he claimed that he was enlightened. Just my opinion. Many people have done very useful things without being enlightened, many enlightened people are anonymous and they don't do nothing 

Don't confuse will of work and success with enlightenment. The ego is extremely powerful, and use to be the engine that gives energy to this kind of movement, even if it is "helping the humankind"

Edited 10 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

45 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

Have I or you done anything helpful for humanity?

Then this is the measurement for enlightenment. Well, bill gates is the most enlightened, windows has been very helpful 

Edited 10 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Javfly33]

21 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Cars are like the worst investment in terms of depreciation compared to a rolex or whatever. Also who are you going to show off to? Nobody cares about your car. Buy a small kia piccanto and you’re fine. I mean if cars are your thing fine. But just to show off? 

I probably just Love cars. I was joking a bit i dont care so much about showing off I feel like they represent a certain level of economic commodity.

Also theres something about how things can represent the level of economic commodity one has. 

Is not about the car is about the discipline I had to get there. For example the first time I was able to Live in my own apartment without sharing with flatmtes, I loved the independence aspect of It of course and that was the main reason I did It. But there was also a profound sense of accomplishment in terms of Being proud of myself of Being able to achieve this milestone, since is not common for young people here in my country to be able to Live without sharing house in a populated city

You can not just deny that some material things represent a certain level of material mastery on Life. It doesn't mean your Life is solved in the slightest, but It tells you some things you are managing well.

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Javfly33

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

You can not just deny that some material things represent a certain level of material mastery on Life. It doesn't mean your Life is solved in the slightest, but It tells you some things you are managing well.

 

Not necessarily could just mean rich parents or "wrong" priorities. But it doesn’t matter anyway do whatever you like obviously.