How to be like Osho?

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

@Javfly33 God, let my wealth and affluence be invisible and extremely stable.

thats probably the best way to go

40k or 200k either way wearing that on the wrist puts you in risk of robbery at least

13 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@coca

Value, is of course relative. I think a better life is to orient around high conscious principles of living the good life and looking rich, doesn't matter, isn't wealth... Why impress someone with money? 

 

I think part of it is the status that comes with it. The feeling of showing off that you 'have made it'. If you contemplate it is very common in Hip Hop culture to show off diamonds, expensive clothes, cars, etc... Since most people that created this music 'came from the bottom', wearing or using certain expensive things feels like a great accomplishment, and also a big way to the ego of saying "Here I am. I am more than You. I am special".

This might seem as low conscious (and maybe it is), but if you come from being poor or marginalized, when you "make it' (economically speaking, at least), these things can provide you a strong sense of self-esteem/value/worthiness that was taken from you when you most need it (at the beginning phases of life where your psyche was most vulnerable).

There is also have to be taken into consideration certain things are just utterly beautiful and difficult to find in other place/in cheap alternatives. For example a lot of fashion hype beasts teenagers wear those cringe Gucci logo t shirts or Supreme bags, but outside those simple pieces that show a logo just to make money, there are other ones that are really unique and is kinda of impossible to find anywhere else.

I cringe when I see millionaires wearing Balmain logo tee shirts when there unique beautiful things to buy, but of course the don´t buy Balmain or Balenciaga because they have a passion for fashion they just want to show off that they have money in the most vulgar way...

Edited yesterday at 08:02 PM by Javfly33

[coca]

@Thought Art Why do you want people who aren’t doing spirituality to not think much of you?

I don’t see a reason to abandon one for the other, you can easily have both 

[Breakingthewall]

52 minutes ago, thinkingmonkey3 said:

@Breakingthewall

Maybe it’s not about whether you’re wearing a Rolex or not, but about your attachment to the thing you’re wearing. I don’t think Osho was attached to anything, he simply used watches, cars, and beautiful women to attract more students.

 

Maybe he was attached to attract more students. To do what? Brainwash them, put them in a uniform and turn them into beings without their own will. Sounds bad to me.

[coca]

@Javfly33 You should not be around anyone that has robbing in their psyche if you can afford a 40k watch. 

I think its reasonable for anyone that can afford a 40k watch to feel a sense of status/accomplishment. 

There needs to be incentives for creating value in the economy. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Until you don´t wear a whole mortgage house on your wrist, your watch is not that impressing.

The message could be translated like: hey, I'm rotten inside, but look what a beautiful cover

[Breakingthewall]

34 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

This might seem as low conscious (and maybe it is), but if you come from being poor or marginalized, when you "make it' (economically speaking, at least), these things can provide you a strong sense of self-esteem/value/worthiness that was taken from you when you most need it (at the beginning phases of life where your psyche was most vulnerable).

That's true. It's low conciousness but it's normal, happens to almost everyone. In some moment of your life you can't avoid to show off like a turkey, it's pathetic, but almost impossible to avoid, I think all humans have done , but the best is that that stage of your life finish when you are still a teenager 😅

Edited yesterday at 08:29 PM by Breakingthewall

[AION]

Deepest change is change in identity. It is also the most difficult one and you are the only one who can do it. It can only be done by curating your consciousness from moment to moment through pruning and sprouting.

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, coca said:

@Javfly33 You should not be around anyone that has robbing in their psyche if you can afford a 40k watch. 

I think its reasonable for anyone that can afford a 40k watch to feel a sense of status/accomplishment. 

There needs to be incentives for creating value in the economy. 

I mean walking in the street. It happens all the time here in Barcelona that some rich ass tourist with 100K on their wrist gets robbed.

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

The message could be translated like: hey, I'm rotten inside, but look what a beautiful cover

yes 🤣 pretty much. And when the watch of 1Million comes out the watch of 500K will feel like a cheap crap. 

58 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's true. It's low conciousness but it's normal, happens to almost everyone. In some moment of your life you can't avoid to show off like a turkey, it's pathetic, but almost impossible to avoid, I think all humans have done , but the best is that that stage of your life finish when you are still a teenager 😅

yeah I include myself in the herd. At first you feel like a cool kid but then Is something you realize it only puts you more ego maniac, less close to others. At some point have to let it go, although and its right time it was necessary to feel a little help from material validation, as long as one sees the trap soon enough

[gettoefl]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Why else would anyone wear a Rolex?

Think about it. The only reason to wear a Rolex is to show off. There is literally no other purpose to it.

If I wore a Rolex in my videos I would hope you guys would die from laughing at the cringe.

The Rolex and the Rolls were to show that it's silly to think you need to renounce the finer things to be enlightened

The man was free of ego and looked to impress no-one

All was a devise to provoke reactions in others to show their blind spots and biases

In addition he had no money or bank account and all he used was given him by followers

 

Edited 22 hours ago by gettoefl

[Vercingetorix]

On 12/14/2024 at 4:35 AM, Actualising said:

How does one become like Osho?

I assume that you see in him something that you resonate with and admire. 
try to identify what it? What are the values that he emobides that you resonate with?

Let's ask ChatGPT to save some time to for an example:

1. Commit to Self-Exploration

Spend time understanding your inner world through practices like meditation, mindfulness, and journaling.

Be open to questioning societal norms, traditional beliefs, and your own conditioned thoughts.

2. Study and Reflect on Wisdom

Read and learn about a wide range of philosophies, religions, and disciplines. Osho synthesized teachings from Eastern and Western traditions.

Focus on integrating these teachings into your daily life rather than just intellectualizing them.

3. Cultivate Communication Skills

Develop a powerful and engaging way of speaking. Osho’s charisma came partly from his ability to articulate profound concepts simply and eloquently.

Practice storytelling and metaphors to make complex ideas relatable.

4. Connect Deeply with Others

Understand the struggles and desires of people you interact with. Osho resonated with people because he addressed universal concerns.

Foster compassion and empathy, and learn how to guide others on their journeys.

5. Live Authentically

Be unapologetically yourself. Osho didn’t conform to societal expectations; his authenticity drew people in.

Create a lifestyle that aligns with your values, even if it challenges norms.

6. Explore Creativity

Osho celebrated art, music, and creativity as paths to spiritual awakening. Allow yourself to express your emotions and ideas freely.

7. Be Open to Controversy

Osho wasn’t afraid to challenge taboos or face criticism. Becoming a figure like him might involve standing firm in your beliefs despite opposition.

Be prepared for both admiration and criticism, knowing that they’re part of the journey.


If you do that, you won't become Osho but you could embody the same qualities that you resonate with when you listen to him, which is nice.

[Fadl]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Why else would anyone wear a Rolex?

I'm not 100% sure ..but I think I've heard him saying that the Rolex is fake in one of his audios. 

[Davino]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Why else would anyone wear a Rolex?

Think about it. The only reason to wear a Rolex is to show off.

How antimainstream from your part Leo

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There is literally no other purpose to it.

Maybe one can appreciate the beauty of a masterfully crafted watch? Rolex does make great watches, maybe overpriced sure

So you can appreciate the beauty in african masks but not in a watch which serves a function and can be a portable piece of art. I think you're being biased here. I get your point but it's shallow imo. I say this as a biased watch lover

[Davino]

53 minutes ago, Fadl said:

I'm not 100% sure ..but I think I've heard him saying that the Rolex is fake in one of his audios. 

This is what I found. It wasn't a Rolex afterall:

https://www.osho.com/osho-online-library/osho-talks/nonsense-watches-diamonds-20917c7e-075?p=cdc01afdf2f923096810187b46256ad3

 

Btw, I'm remembered of this video

Osho is really a genius

A free man in a mad world

Edited 20 hours ago by Davino

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Why else would anyone wear a Rolex?

Think about it. The only reason to wear a Rolex is to show off. There is literally no other purpose to it.

If I wore a Rolex in my videos I would hope you guys would die from laughing at the cringe.

Lmao. I died laughing at your elf ears and Halloween costumes.

[whh2222]

21 hours ago, Lyubov said:

Because nothing magically makes any human so perfect where they no longer make mistakes or have responsibilities which they can fumble. The guy was running a cult. I have not extensively studied Osho so I can’t speak on him, I wonder if he actually lived with honesty and integrity. A lot of you have baked into your language and world view a lot of beliefs about how spiritual teachers should be. Indian mysticism culture has blinded many of you from seeing these guys are no different from you. Free yourself from this limiting world view, many of them don’t want this because your donations help pay for their curry and livelihood so they can sit around all day or chat up some young nubile hippy white girl at their ashram. Cut it out. 

1. I dont see him that way. One rule I keep on this journey is to never follow anyone 100% or see them as perfect. The whole purpose of my post in this thread is to deconstruct the pedestal that people put him on. 

2. dont tell me what to do. 

Edited 20 hours ago by whh2222

[coca]

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[Javfly33]

7 hours ago, Davino said:

 

So you can appreciate the beauty in african masks but not in a watch which serves a function and can be a portable piece of art. I think you're being biased here. I get your point but it's shallow imo. I say this as a biased watch lover

exactly 

[Breakingthewall]

13 hours ago, gettoefl said:

The Rolex and the Rolls were to show that it's silly to think you need to renounce the finer things to be enlightened

The man was free of ego and looked to impress no-one

All was a devise to provoke reactions in others to show their blind spots and biases

In addition he had no money or bank account and all he used was given him by followers

 

He didn't need money because he feeds by attention not by money, he was a star, huge ego. When he was 10 days in jail he cried a lot

[PurpleTree]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Why else would anyone wear a Rolex?

Think about it. The only reason to wear a Rolex is to show off. There is literally no other purpose to it.

If I wore a Rolex in my videos I would hope you guys would die from laughing at the cringe.

Well i think for luxury swiss watches or whatever there is also the factor of appreciating the piece in terms of mechanical engineering and beauty, durability, history etc. Maybe less so a Rolex than compared to maybe a Patek or whatever but still. Also recently it’s a decent investment.

[coca]

@Davino @Javfly33 Leo has an interesting aversion towards mainstream brands/collectibles like Cars,Rolex, jewelry, and designer, and gravitates towards the more “autistic/nerdy” sort of collectibles that don’t get you laid. This often stems from early trauma related to missing out on sexual experiences while developing ones life purpose, and it is currently the biggest problem I struggle with today.