How to be like Osho?

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Fadl said:

It's not about talking wisely anyway.. it's about you really feel .. peaceful?

No, it's about real understanding or fake one

[coca]

@Leo Gura How is wearing a Rolex conformist? (I own a Rolex and enjoy it, see recent post)

Edited Monday at 04:44 PM by coca

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, coca said:

@Leo Gura How is wearing a Rolex conformist? (I own a Rolex and enjoy it, see recent post)

Maybe because shows that you are giving value to the symbols of power and success of the society, then that Rolex is a symbolically a chain that enslaves you , then if you are a guru that preach freedom seems incoherent 

Edited Monday at 07:59 PM by Breakingthewall

[whh2222]

18 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well, seems that he didn't realize that because he was living in his own world, but that own world seemed a world of narcissism and idiocy, not a mystical enlightened one. He was a brilliant philosopher, but ultimately a clown 

I agree. It confuses me how Leo seems to think he's on such a higher plane. 

[Lyubov]

23 hours ago, whh2222 said:

Exactly. His people were attempting bio terrorism too. I don't see how an awakened man can allow such things to happen. 

Because nothing magically makes any human so perfect where they no longer make mistakes or have responsibilities which they can fumble. The guy was running a cult. I have not extensively studied Osho so I can’t speak on him, I wonder if he actually lived with honesty and integrity. A lot of you have baked into your language and world view a lot of beliefs about how spiritual teachers should be. Indian mysticism culture has blinded many of you from seeing these guys are no different from you. Free yourself from this limiting world view, many of them don’t want this because your donations help pay for their curry and livelihood so they can sit around all day or chat up some young nubile hippy white girl at their ashram. Cut it out. 

[Breakingthewall]

16 hours ago, whh2222 said:

I agree. It confuses me how Leo seems to think he's on such a higher plane. 

Him and millions of people around the world. The subject of spirituality and enlightenment is very slippery, it is very difficult to even understand what enlightenment means, and there are always opportunists lurking around to make money. Opportunists who themselves may think they are enlightened without even understanding what that means, since enlightenment has the particularity of being impossible to understand. (and I am not saying here that I am), and making the wannabes thinking that they are enlightened from the first moment. Then it's a topic that is not defined nowadays, there is not a consensus about what enlightenment is. 

Anyway Osho was a genius, very smart, but I think he operated in the level of the mind, just an opinion 

Edited 19 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Leo Gura]

On 12/16/2024 at 8:22 AM, coca said:

@Leo Gura How is wearing a Rolex conformist? (I own a Rolex and enjoy it, see recent post)

Why else would anyone wear a Rolex?

Think about it. The only reason to wear a Rolex is to show off. There is literally no other purpose to it.

If I wore a Rolex in my videos I would hope you guys would die from laughing at the cringe.

Edited 18 hours ago by Leo Gura

[coca]

@Leo Gura How is wearing a Rolex cringe? Does my Rolex look cringe? The set was inspired by Osho, who as you know wore a similiar Rolex with diamonds. Ive always loved the juxtaposition between spirituality and capitalism. 

I think it’s possible to show off in an ethical way, especially with a brand like Rolex. They retain most of their value on the secondhand market. (Some models are even worth more than their retail price).

[Thought Art]

40,000 dollars for what? a Bracelet .

Just kidding, I don't really understand spending that much for a watch, nor do I believe in the monetary value ascribed to a Rolex. But, I can understand people enjoy it.

Edited 17 hours ago by Thought Art

[coca]

@Breakingthewall Humans are inherently hierarchical. In what way does wearing a Rolex “enslave you”?

[coca]

@Thought Art All value is a social construct. Rolex retains most of its value on the second market. There are many Rolex models that are worth more than their retail value. All the economic activity associated with Rolex stimulates the economy. It’s similar to holding gold. 

Edited 17 hours ago by coca

[Javfly33]

17 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

40,000 dollars for what? a Bracelet .

Just kidding, I don't really understand spending that much for a watch, nor do I believe in the monetary value ascribed to a Rolex. But, I can understand people enjoy it.

40K? That's nothing. Richard Mille's are around 200K each. And Patek Philippe can go over that up to half a million. 

At this point Rolex is not even anymore a sign of status. It tells you are a poor rich. You are there but not really there. A struggling rich.

Until you don´t wear a whole mortgage house on your wrist, your watch is not that impressing. 

Edited 17 hours ago by Javfly33

[Thought Art]

@Javfly33 God, let my wealth and affluence be invisible and extremely stable.

[Breakingthewall]

26 minutes ago, coca said:

@Breakingthewall Humans are inherently hierarchical. In what way does wearing a Rolex “enslave you”?

Supposedly if you are enlightened , or even just bit opened to the real nature of reality, you are not hierarchical anymore. 

[thinkingmonkey3]

@Breakingthewall

Maybe it’s not about whether you’re wearing a Rolex or not, but about your attachment to the thing you’re wearing. I don’t think Osho was attached to anything, he simply used watches, cars, and beautiful women to attract more students.

 

[coca]

@Javfly33 This exactly. 

Once you understand the watch market you realize putting Rolex on a pedestal is a joke 

[Thought Art]

I can leave behind the physical Rolex and Rolls Royce that Osho has... instead I will create Internal, Spiritual and energetic Rolls Royce and Rolex equivalent. Good Heath, Joy, Healthy relationship, purpose, wisdom, etc... 

Edited 17 hours ago by Thought Art

[coca]

@thinkingmonkey3 Don’t we all use these things to attract certain people into our lives?

[coca]

@Thought Art Why not both?

[Thought Art]

@coca I would like for people not to think much of me at all who aren't engaged in my work.

So, other than obviously have decent clothes, a nice house, high quality food, etc

I don't want to buy expensive things needlessly like a Rolex or luxury car. I'd like to own some high quality bracelets but nothing more than a couple hundred dollars. And, for car my dream car is something like a Honda CRV.

Something like an Oura ring or high quality mattress, or coaching, or courses, etc seem like where I'd like to spend money because I enjoy that more in life and get a return from it. A Rolex seems like recipe for sadness because who are you trying to impress? The other guy who believes in Rolexes as valuable. If the values really do remain stable, and people are actually able to resell them, that is interesting to me that people do that.

Value, is of course relative. I think a better life is to orient around high conscious principles of living the good life. Looking rich, doesn't matter, isn't wealth... Why impress someone with money?

The good life does require some level of wealth, and quality things like a house, car, nice property I think.

What does excite me a lot is seeing my work have positive benefits on the lives of others... That is some of the greatest joy I don't think buying a Rolex can match for me.

I don't need 70 Rolexes but if I could have that in spiritual wealth: Joy, compassion, wisdom, creativity, relationships, etc Boom. Won life .

Edited 16 hours ago by Thought Art