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7 hours ago, Hyperion said:

All of these things exist as concepts, thus they are real. It's just that they don't exist independently from one another / independently from (your) perception.

White cannot exist without black, and black cannot exist without white. Does this mean that they aren't real? No it doesn't. It just means that they are relatively real, not absolutely real.

 

There's Absolute then there is Relativity, I'm finding that ppl pick one or the other and stay in that lane totally, but both are present and available, it just the Human can be intouch with the Absolute, Experience it, that is all, while being here and functioning in the Relative, its pretty simple.. Things are Real and Unreal, both are at play, most of what ppl are thinking or concluding in life is Unreal, they make up stories to get thru Life and this is done Unconsciously, so what we can do Unconsciously can be done Consciously. 

The whole point of Life is to live it to its fullest, if not then what is the point? Some say there is no point, no meaning, that is correct too, all of it is correct, it just depends on where You are coming from, an Absolute perspective or Relative Perspective, and this is the beauty of being Human compared to any other life form, we can choose what perspective to be living from...


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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7 hours ago, Hyperion said:

All of these things exist as concepts, thus they are real. It's just that they don't exist independently from one another / independently from (your) perception.

White cannot exist without black, and black cannot exist without white. Does this mean that they aren't real? No it doesn't. It just means that they are relatively real, not absolutely real.

 

Of course, everything that appears is relatively real. Don't need a rocket scientist to figure that out. The question is, is relatively real, REAL?


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16 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Of course, everything that appears is relatively real. Don't need a rocket scientist to figure that out. The question is, is relatively real, REAL?

This only happens thru Experience, the Relative is real via Experience within the Individual.. The lunatic being put into the psych ward is going thru a REAL experience in their perception, but we are looking at it from outside their experience and saying they are a lunatic and nothing is happening, so that is the key, each of us has Unique Experience via many sources, and we can control this and not be ruled by this, there is an Experience and an Experiencer or Witness.

If You deny Experience then You deny everything that is going on here, and will say things as You have said, that No One is Here, Nothing is going On and so forth which on a Absolute level of Perspective is True, but not on the Relative Level... that is why Balance is key, both perspective have to always be considered and Experienced, when one is wanting to Experience and Live in the Absolute level then they should isolate, get away from Society and Worldly activity, this is why Ashrams were built to facilitate this, the Bram Acharya sect is for this purpose, they focus completely on Living/Experiencing in the Absolute until Body Dissolution or Mahasamadhi happens, the other way is that of the Householder, ppl that function within a Society and have families and jobs and such, in India they did this until they reached the age of 60 or so, then the person would retire and leave the family/society to go fulltime into Spirituality, and then come back to them in a few years..


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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14 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Of course, everything that appears is relatively real. Don't need a rocket scientist to figure that out.

You certainly don't. ;)

14 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

The question is, is relatively real, REAL?

Should we ask a rocket scientist to give us the answer?

Very well then, let me put on my scientist glasses and hand you the answer(s) on a silver platter:

If you are asking whether relative reality is relatively real, then the answer is yes.

If you are asking whether relative reality is absolutely real, then the answer is no.

Satisfied?

 

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15 hours ago, Hyperion said:

You certainly don't. ;)

Should we ask a rocket scientist to give us the answer?

Very well then, let me put on my scientist glasses and hand you the answer(s) on a silver platter:

If you are asking whether relative reality is relatively real, then the answer is yes.

If you are asking whether relative reality is absolutely real, then the answer is no.

Satisfied?

 

The me is never satisfied..hehe


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The "me" is in a desperate state of despair. Just check out the forum threads. It seeks and can never find. It doesn't realize it doesn't exist and that it's life is all imaginary. It doesn't have a life and it seeks the end of itself. It's pretty obvious at this point. I this and I that, I, I, I, I, I. My life this and my life that. I can't seem to this and I can't seem to that. Oh my, what a dilemma. So brutal and yet so beautiful to recognize that there's no one there doing that. It's this appearing as that. This is unconditionally free. So free it can appear to be bound and enslaved. There's no point in even giving any advice in these situations because advice is not what it seeks. It seeks to DIE. Sob, sob.

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What does it mean to be human:

Exactly how we see humans act. Exactly how we see humans interact. Can a human act like a dog, a cat, a giraffe, an elephant, a tree. Maybe, but only temporarily and as, just that, an act. They cannot BE those things. So to expect anything else from humans from what you already see and how you see them acting is a fantasy and shows how you THINK they should act in your mind. Your expectations. Some silly little immature notion of blah, blah, blah love fantasy. 

We have emotions, we're loving people, we're not mechanical and we show love towards each other and should embody our human side of love care and compassion. BULLSHIT. What you see is what you get. How you see humans act is exactly what it means to be human. In every meaning of the word.

We think we're so special and then when we see evidence that we're not, we condemn and say that's not how we should act as humans and that we're not robots. The Robert Green's thread about pornography by Anion inspired me to write this post. I made a comment there regarding this. I see all the time how we're trying to make humans into what were not. We're exactly how we ought to be. Confused, alienated, sadistic, neurotic, impulsive, filled with hate and anger, jealous, envious, stupid, silly, foolish and also every word that is the opposite of what I just listed, e,g kind, smart, generous, loving...etc. 

Just like how we chase happiness and avoid pain, we're trying to see humans in a specific light. We want to see humans act in a specific way so we can see ourselves in a specific way. If a human acts a certain way that we don't like to see in ourselves, we condemn it and say that's not human. Yes, it is. Who acted that way...a monkey? No, it was a human. That's what it means to be human. 

Look at nature. We see the sun and the stars and the beautiful trees and rainbows and lovely weather and the birds chirping and the beautiful beaches and so on. We also see the hurricanes, the earthquakes, the tsunamis, the tornados and you name it - every destructive event there is. We don't say that's not nature and that nature needs to act differently and it needs therapy and how it needs to be loving and not robotic and however else we try to describe our lovely notions of how we think humans should be. No. We accept it and say, that's nature for ya. With humans, we want to fix things and try to see our species as all loving and caring and with no acts that will jeopardize our silly notions of what we think a human should be. 

We are so neurotic and narcissistic and filled with psychosis that we cannot accept the fact that we're not special and that we're a part of nature that doesn't discriminate and that there's nothing personal about anything in life....THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE PERSON. There's nothing personal about the person. We have made it about us. We have made life about us. Life doesn't give a shit about who you think you are. Life is just life. Life is just doing it's thing. Life is showing us that fact every day and we insist on making it about us. 

We invent terms like depersonalization. Haha. That's funny. There's no person there. It's all a facade. We say we feel empty inside. Haha. That's because there's nothing there. The brain and mind is there to create problems so we can feel like there's something or someone there to fix. That's another trick of life. To make us feel important and special. Can't you all see it. Can't you all see how it never ends. Always trying to fix something. Well, there's nothing to fix and nothing to mend but the broken chair and that's also another way that life expresses itself and is using us to do it's thing. It's all an expression of life, both the good and the bad, the right and the wrong, the good feelings and the not so good feelings, the pain and the sorrow and the happiness and the joy. 

Everything in the 3D world is made to keep us trapped in the facade. To keep us hallucinating. We search for enlightenment to escape from the mirage. We want to get enlightened so we can escape the mind and our thoughts. We suffer our own demise. We look to gurus to help us. They also have their own pain and sorrow they're dealing with. They are just distracted from them and use their followers to mend their wounds. If they didn't have us to lean on,, they would also be a hot mess. Notice how when you meditate and do your spiritual practices how you feel better. You have to keep doing them or you'll fall apart and go back to your old ways. It's a crutch. A band-aid. Nothing will take the place of BEING. What I mean by that is 24/7 BEING. If you're not there yet, just practice BEING 24/7. No need to set aside time for anything mental. Get to the point where nothing bothers you, nothing in life troubles you and you can walk in peace at all times knowing you are always one with life and there's nothing that can happen to take that away and that you are an eternal being and nothing can ever take that away.


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All one has to do is look through their eyes to see the oneness. Not look from them but through them. Not as a person seeing but seeing itself. A blind man sees nothing out there and neither do you. A deaf person hears nothing and neither do you. Hearing is just happening. Seeing is just happening. Walking is just happening. Talking and smiling and every other bodily activity. All just happening. There's no one doing it. You didn't go to smiling school, you never went to talking school or never had to be taught how to pee, it all just happened.

These are the things i'm in interested in; not how to get enlightened. Not how to stop suffering, not how to find bliss or happiness. I've already realized that's just mind talking. Mind wanting to end itself. Mind seeking for it's own destruction. Mind tormenting itself. That's not who I am. That's just me. Mind, ego. Don't care if I suffer and I'm not seeking happiness or peace. I'm done with all that. There's already peace and tranquility present. There's also chaos and war and all that present. Why seek it. Seek and ye shall not find. 

I'm investigating my own existence. How I already am. What I currently am. Not some future existence of what i can be or what my potential is. This is not about the physical world or 3D world of movement and change. That's different. That's not real. That's a facade. Not denying it but it's of no importance. Even my investigating my existence is not of any importance because it will not change anything but it's what I enjoy doing. I don't do it to get anywhere or to find anything. I'm like a kid in a candy store with it. There's nothing but candy and there's no candy in the outside world. It's all a bunch of changing bullshit that's just for people who seek to uphold their human existence. I'm through with all that. I'm just there for the ride and paying my way at the gate. 

I want to investigate why we sleep. What is this breath I breathe. Observe. I'm an observer. No one makes it out alive. Why? One might say, because death is inevitable, why? One might say don't worry about why and that there are no why's or don't question things or it's just the way life is or whatever they say. Doesn't matter, I don't care if I get an answer; it's just these are the things I'm interested in querying. Not to know, but out of curiosity. Even why so many people suffer. That's also something to ponder. Not in the way most people see it, though. More so as to why soooooooooooooo many people suffer. All kinds of people from every background. I look at that more as suffering just exist just as everything else. Everything exist. "Richness" also exists but lots are poor. Why isn't it that more people are rich than poor if it's just that poverty and wealth exist just as suffering. Why isn't it evenly distributed. If you ask me, suffering tops them all. There's an abundance of it. Maybe it's the mind that suffers and wealth and poverty are just mindsets and suffering isn't. A mindset is a thought and how one thinks, but suffering is an activity of mind. 

I'm interested in why soooooooo many get addicted to wordly things. Even spirituality is a wordly thing if you ask me. Most narcissistic and neurotic humans would disagree but I beg to differ. Addiction is addiction and addiction stems from identification with the world and body. We try to differentiate these things, and it works, but only for those still identified with the illusion. I'm still identified but I can still see the traits and deceptions. We deceive ourselves into thinking being spiritual is better than being worldly. It's not better, just different in the mind. It's all one and of the same. There's no difference and you cannot separate the two. Only in the mind. We only do that to seem more special than "others". When you've gone full circle it all collapses and you're back to square one. Integrating both. Thing is most haven't gone all the way spiritually. Notice how one usually goes before the other. Most are worldly first then become spiritual. Then they think they've found something special. A way out of the suffering that led them there to begin with or close to God or Source. You're not closer than you ever were because you were never far away. ONLY IN THE MIND. It's all mind. Mind is tricky and slick. It will believe anything that suits it in it's time and space illusory nature. It knows how to create. It invents. It's your world. Without it you're dead. Who is the you I refer to. The person you think you are. So you create all sorts of belief systems and practices to stay alive. To keep you asleep. Once one has awakened, they need no more practices and will integrate worldly and spiritual things into their lives because they've recognized it's all one of the same. Can't have one without the other. Denying the worldly is just as insane as denying the spiritual. The mind trying to save itself. There's no mind of yours. It's all one. 

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Why do you think some people just can't or don't want to hear about your spiritual lingo and what you have to say about them being God or how everything is one and all is perfect and this is wholeness or God realization or enlightenment and awakening. You think it's because it's over their heads and they're just not ready or they're too low conscious, as some like to put it, or they need to sow their wild oats first. No, it's because they are just like you that have built a construct around their world and it's just not a part of their construct. It's like i'm building a house with a particular construction in mind and you coming to tell me how to design it. Some might listen and go for your suggestion because their ego isn't as concrete and molded firmly, some might just ignore you because they are so involved in their own design, some might laugh at you and say your suggestion is ludicrous, some might even get angry because they took offense to you saying their construct is no good and should change it. You are into spirituality because it's a part of your egoic mind identity. It's not a part of theirs.

Whatever the response, it's not because you have found something better than them or they are oblivious to what you're saying and can't compute or whatever, it's that the one's who don't give a shit about your spirituality and you trying to convert them to it, IS ALSO A VERSION OF YOU. Is also life being life. Is also the Absolute playing their part. Is also the Absolute or THIS appearing as them. Life appears how it wants including you trying to convert into your newly-found interest. Only newbies try to convert. Different from teaching, so I'm not talking about teachers or gurus or creators. If you find yourself trying to convert your family or friends or just random people on the street or you can't wait to tell people about your spiritual knowledge who didn't ask you, you're a newbie and when you have totally embodied this shit, you wouldn't care less about who knows what because you'll realize they are also a part of the whole.

Not talking about spiritualists debating each other and disagreeing like politicians trying to win over an argument, but a spiritualist talking to a non-spiritualist and trying to teach them or show them the light like a Jehovah Witness trying to save you from hell.

It's all God/Absolute/Wholeness/Oneness/Nothing/Aliveness/ whatever name you want to call it appearing as oblivious to it's own self/being. It's a fucking act and it becomes obvious when you observe the fucking world around you and the people in it and how they enjoy playing the part. Suffering and all. Can't change that. Not everything and everyone is made to play the same role. It's diverse and everything is included and everything that exists, exists for existence's sake. 

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I can't do this because of that. I can't get that because of this. In the past this happened and that's why this is happening to me today. My life sucks and 5 yrs ago such and such happened and that happened to me on that particular day and I'm depressed and want to kill myself now because of it. My life is doomed and will forever be this way because 10yrs ago this happened. If that's not living in the head, I don't know what is. I'm not saying I don't do it too, but it will stay in my head and I won't make a big deal about it and post those thoughts on a public forum because I've recognized that I live in my head and that's just a fucking story and has nothing to do with what is now.

The difference between me and some is that I recognize somethings for what they are. I'm no different than anyone else when it comes to story making, living in the head, having thoughts and ideas and identifying with them. That's going to happen. I'm not enlightened or awakened or whatever else we want to call it. I just recognize them for what they are and I realize how the mind will put you in this space and make you believe in it. I realize, and this is just from the knowledge I've acquired and being observant of how others and myself respond to life how it's just mind playing it's tricks and how the mind's identifications run deep. The hallucination feels really real and it cannot be escaped...........unless you become aware that that's what's going on. 

I don't need psychedelics and mushrooms and 5meo to realize anything. All that's needed is awareness, observation, curiosity, a deep sense of wanting to understand why. Then you get that there's nothing to understand, nothing to get and nothing to chase. It's all there right infront of you. ALL THERE IS. It's very simple but can be complicated if you put mind into it. If you live in your head. If you deeply believe all your stories and you can't see them for what they are. If you take life too seriously and don't see how the world is changing because there just is no real world. 

When the mind has gotten tired and i mean really tired of fighting with itself, fighting with life, only then and only then will you die before you die and now you can see the world for what it truly is. Life still goes on and the mind is still rambling on and concerns are there and work has to be done and you're still moving on and moving on, but you do it from a place of being unattached. The stories don't mean anything much anymore and the thoughts are there but you don't care and you don't invent spiritual lingos and invent excuses as to why things are the way they are. Life just is, even if you're not happy with it or if you're happy with it, doesn't matter. You just won't keep reliving the dead past over and over and talking about it if it's not something you want to relive. 


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You can tell from someone's thread asking for advice whether they are depressed or anxious. If they speak more of what happened to them in the past and keep ruminating and bringing up what happened to them in the past, and how this happened and that happened to them, they are depressed. If it's about the future, that's anxiety. If it's about the present and the future, that's extreme anxiety. Just notice their wording and how they phrase things. 

Not about advice on practical things like how to fix something or how to find a teaching or something like that, but a supposedly life crises. It never fails. Someone who is depressed will always speak about the past and an anxious person always about the future. This is what I mean about observing and seeing for myself how the mind works. How we create our own problems to fix. How we live our lives in the past and the present. Then when someone gives them advice, and it's not what tool the mind is looking for to fix itself, it rebuts every advice until it finds one that suits it. One it can work with. We're not looking for advice, we're seeking tools to help build on our constructions. We're shopping for tools. You start to see this when you see energetically, when you take the person out the equation and all you see is energetic patterns. Notice the same people with the same problems - for years. I can't get laid. My family is this. I'm confused about this. I'm suffering, I'm depressed, I want to kill myself. I mean it's the same kinds of problems with the same people. Just different content. Women are this, women are that, the forum sucks. Their fears are the same, just different stories. 

This isn't a criticism, it's an observation. It's my spiritual practice. How I decode and realize how there's no one there but mind. I've been told that it's all mind and I've set out to see for myself and i have yet to find any evidence that it's not. I've been told it's all energy and I have yet to convince myself that it's not. It's interesting to see. When my life isn't about me any more and I've set out to know thyself, these are the things that interests me. I don't see other, I see me. Not in the sense that their are no others but that they are no different from me but only energetically. There's no judgement here, only observation. Even though I may speak sometimes in a judgemental fashion it's only as a response to what was said and that's how the energy responded. Life is just about response because the energy responds to itself.

We speak about Solipsism, but we truly don't understand what it means. Its about one energy responding to itself. There's nothing but the one energy flowing through life. Not about there's only you and everyone else is your mind. There's no you. Only an effect of that energetic pattern reflecting as a you that you take so personally.

 

 

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A weird thing happened the other day. Where I live, and looking out my bedroom, I can see the street outside my house. The neighbor up the street has his nieces and nephews (I'm guessing that's who they are and is irrelevant) walk his dog on a daily and nightly basis. I'm not sure if they live there or they just visit.

Anyway, I always see the young girl, the guy or both walking the dog. I've never seen the house owner walking the dog. I only just thought this thought once. I said to myself just two days ago when I saw the dog being walked and said how come I never see the owner walking the dog. No biggie, it was just a thought that arose.

Lo and behold the next day I looked out the window and guess who I saw walking the dog for the first time. Yep, you guessed it - the fucking owner. I looked and just chuckled to myself in wonder and said to myself, there goes a psychedelic experience of oneness i experienced without having to shit my pants...hehe. Just kidding about that but I was like shit just happens right before our eyes all the time if we just take the time to look and observe. The thought came before the experience but it was happening at the same time but the brain registered it as a time lapse. This is how you can recognize oneness without thinking you have to be attached to something to not be separate from it. That was no coincidence. 

The dream is real. The dream isn't what's happening and appearing. The dream is me thinking I'm separate from what's happening and that I'm a separate individual in a separate outside world. That's really appearing. What's not appearing is me. There's none. Only awareness. Just like that dog appears within my awareness, so does my dream world. When I die, whether mentally or physically it will be revealed that the dream never happened just like my dreaming at the beach at night never happened but only in my dream. But for now, that's just conceptual. Understanding that is good for now. I'm not ready to die even though that's not up to me. That will also happen on it's own just like my apparent birth. 

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Thoughts are battling thoughts. One tells the other something and the other disagrees. It's like a conversation going on inside our head that thinks it's important. This conversation is our whole world in that moment. Then when they can't come to an agreement, we search out for other's thoughts to see if they can be the middleman. Maybe someone else's thoughts can come in-between my thoughts and bring some solution to this problem. 

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah......,what do you all think? Now, the others' thoughts scramble for solutions to those thoughts and try to come up with what it thinks is an important solution to the original person's thoughts. What's thinking their advice is valid and what's critically analyzing that advice for it's validity and if it makes sense is also thought. Thoughts chasing and seeking and always trying to benefit from something, in order to understand something, to get something it doesn't yet have. It's pursuit of worldly pleasure or of peace or happiness. It's always seeking for something. Trying to benefit from something. Never letting life unfold how it's unfolding.

This constant seeking, trying to benefit and always looking to gain is what's keeping us trapped in the chase. Keeping us away from ourselves. Keeping us from BEING. Keeping us in the loop. More questions, more seeking of advice, more I don't know what to do, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more.....OF EVERYTHING. 


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Only way to find happiness is to stop looking for it. Notice how you never go out of your way to find sadness but it finds you anyway, Why do you think happiness needs to be found. It's not lost. It will appear when it's damn good and ready. Where is it. Point to it. Happiness is silent. It's not something one can locate. When you laugh, laughter is an effect of being happy. A frown is an effect of being sad. Sadness is also silent. You are only projecting these effects. Get some money and you project happiness. Get dumped and you project sadness. These things are effects. We're searching for things that makes us project effects. What a fucking mirage, what a fucking I don't know what to say. We're seeking effects. Where is happiness? In that car? Point to it. In that mate? Show me. It's invisible. 

We're seeking to feel something so we can project it's effect that shows us a replica of that sensation. Do you see how you're living your life. Seeking an effect. What is an effect. It's the result or outcome of something. Something that happens because of something else. It's all one, right. So, that one thing is searching for itself to cause something else to happen. Do you see the madness the mind has created. Stop and contemplate these things so you can see how neurotic we are. We are chasing something that is within us so we can feel the effects. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU CHASE AFTER HAPPINESS. Chasing your own tail. Chasing what's already here and present. Chasing so you can project an effect. Chasing the cause of that effect. What a losing proposition. 

 

 

 


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Notice it's the same people with the same feelings. The same shit over and over again. They appear and disappear then reappear with the same frequency only magnified. They entertain those stories in the mind and those stories have found a place to live. Very few circumstances you'll see someone come back with a new character. It's either they're always talking about their past traumas, their abusive family member or their lack of something like sex or money or whatever. Focusing on something only magnifies it. Keeps it lingering. I can see someone's name on a thread and can know what they're going to talk about. Not verbatim, but the same kind of story with different content. We live in our heads. We create our stories and we feel the need to keep them alive, so we build new stories around them. Life is always new and changing but the stories we tell ourselves are forever static. Then we keep them alive by putting energy towards them and tell them on the mountain top to anyone who'll listen. Then when the mind gets bored again, it brings them back to life. 

I do it too, but I don't tell anyone because I just ignore the goddam thing because I realize that's just how the mind operates and i try not to believe in it. It's not denial, it's called realizing the true nature of the self and that I'm not the stories the mind creates about what's happening. What happens, happens and that's the end of it. No need to add stories to what happened. I find myself doing that constantly, but I stop immediately as a practice and the habit becomes less and less. I could come on here and start threads about my dead life and what who did to me and where; but why. Why relive those dead memories. I want some new ones. Not living in the past and worrying about their effects. 

 

 

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This might sound a bit weird but the worst thing that can happen to the individual is it gets what it wants. It finds value in the world and it benefits from it's experiences. Why? It makes them more trapped in the material world. Even spiritually. Now, it depends on the outside world for it's fulfillment. It's like a crutch. This is why forums like these thrive. Nothing wrong and it's a good thing for keeping hope alive and for the betterment of society and it's consumerisms, but it doesn't lead to lasting fulfillment.

Recognizing this, is freedom. Freedom from the chains of the egoic world and it's entrapments and slavery mentality. Seek the fulfillment you desire, seek for better experiences, seek for value and try to benefit but also recognize these are illusions and that the only freedom there is is when you are free from all desires and wishes.

Let me explain. We all have desires and wishes, myself included. The only reason I can speak of these things is because I've been there, am there, and I am also in the egoic world. I've seen through it's trap. I've seen through the loop and endless circus. I've seen through the fears of the ego and it's everlasting need for more. 

What is for you will find you. What's yours will always be for you. When you don't need and want of things, everything is yours. When you don't care if you live or die, you begin to live. When you're not caught up in trying to pursue what you consider the right feelings, the right feelings become present. When you don't try to find value in the world, you start to recognize your own. When you don't look to benefit from life, you start to see the beauty in everything. Your biases start to fade (won't be eliminated), your prejudices and hatreds start to dissolve. Your fears start to diminish and your selfishness weakens (again, won't be eliminated). 

This is when you start to see the traps of the ego. Your own demise. You start to see how all your hard work to keep the ego alive was just an illusion and that life is carrying itself. Look back from years ago how your worries aren't there anymore. Your financial and sex worries are probably still there because of your feelings of lack and the cravings of the body, but you're still here. You made it through. Do you think you sat there yourself and thought of how you got through these things. No. You think you did, but you didn't. We think we know what we want, but we don't. We want to keep ourselves trapped in the illusion, that's all we want. When we want and desire things, that's really what we want. We want to feel alive, we want to perpetuate the ego and we want to know. To understand so we don't feel like a fool and do dumb things. It's a need of the ego. It can't stand to lose at life. It wants to win. It's in a competition with itself. 

These words seem crude. Seems like I don't know what I'm saying, and I don't, I only know that I know nothing and that life is carrying me through. I didn't surrender and i didn't let go, I realize that there's nothing i can possibly do on my own because I didn't get here on my own. It's a bundle of stories and ideas that got me here. When I was born, I was a nobody and now I'm a somebody. This somebody created itself out of nothing and out of nowhere, but I got here somehow. Now, it's time for me to see through this. To see how I created myself. All from the knowledge I've acquired and my experiences and all my perceived perceptions and ideas I've had and still have about life. It's wonderful. It's a masterpiece. It's magnificent. It's genius, and I don't know how I did it. It just happened. The same way it's unhappening. It's beginning to unravel. I'm not doing that, it's just happening all on it's own. I'm beginning to see the end. The end of who I thought I was. I'm not the same person I used to be. I'm beginning to see the end. The end of what never started. It's scary but I can see who I truly am through all the mirage. It's been here all along. It wants nothing and desires nothing. It recognizes it's true nature. It doesn't see me anymore it sees life. A life that never was mine. It's slowly leaving me behind. It's seeing through the illusion of control. The only control I have is what I've done. What I've given myself to see through it. I did all that. I created myself including control. There's none outside of what I've created.


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How can we judge things by direct experience when we're not seeing Reality as it actually is. How can we even know what TRUTH is if what's looking for it is distorted. 

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Ever notice you're walking around with a body with a brain, a liver, kidneys, heart, esophagus, stomach acids, cells and everything else that's inside plus the outside like hands, feet, ears, mouth, eyes which are all connected to the inside and just every feature of the body overall. The cells are so complicated and are working non-stop along with everything else including the heart's pumping blood to keep you alive, the organs are working nonstop and.....you get the drift.

Now, that in itself is a masterpiece and a whole new world on it's own. How the hell is that just taken for granted. We are carrying around a masterpiece and a whole body construct around with us everyday doing our mundane things and searching for sex and conversations and work and money and whatever else we do in our daily lives like it's nothing. We see Einstein as a genius and smart technology so smart and magnificent and AI and all other human inventions how we marvel at them - until we get used to it anyway and then it becomes just another tool in life. 

We fight about parking spaces, who cheated on who, who said the wrong thing to insult us, who disagreed with our stupid opinions and all that while we're walking around with a masterpiece on top of.....on top of....on top of what. Whose the we and what's the masterpiece. Contemplate on that. 


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When we feel sad, where is it located. When happiness is felt where is it felt. Where are all the emotions felt. Within the body? Where? The gut? The heart? The toes? The hands? The hair? We feel it in the body, but where. You might say the whole body but does your teeth feel happy. Maybe. Does your fingernails feel sad. Maybe. Is it in the cells. Does our cells feel the happiness and sadness we feel. Maybe. Why would something as a cell that's so magnificent and profound and is doing such a wonderful job within the body and communicating with other cells to keep the body going care about your new car or your devastating break-up. 

You might say it doesn't know why you're happy, it just knows so it can feel it too. A cell is going to disrupt it's important work of keeping the body working to feel happy or sad about your scoring an A in math class. Ok, so it's not the cells, but where - the heart? Same reasonings. Why would it care about the material things that make us happy. How is the heart feeling happy.

I mean, I'm not sure where it's felt but I can't think of anywhere in the body where the emotions are supposed to be felt. If I ask you what makes up the body, you'll say all the parts but if I ask you does your pinky toe feel happiness, you might say no. Or does your pee have feelings. It comes from the body, no. Where are these emotions felt. In the body, but where. I don't know, I just feel them all over. Are you sure you're actually feeling anything. What is this feeling itself. Does feelings feel. Is that it's job, it's essence, it's innate feature, is it to feel. Does it need a body to carry out it's work. Do plants feel. I guess they feel within their plant bodies. 

Does feelings go around planting itself somewhere in order to actualize itself. Where do I go now. Ok, that man just bought a new car, let's go over there. Is that how it works. Are our perceptions responsible for our feelings. Feelings seem to be very dependent. Dependent on us. We feel all sorts of emotions from all sorts of circumstances. How do we generate these feelings. We don't know, it just happens?

We seem to take ownership of a lot of things we don't have any idea of on how they work, don't we. My happiness, my sadness, my frustration, my this and my that. We own everything, but can't explain where they come from or the mechanics of how we generated them or how they came into existence. The only thing we can say is that outside object made me feel this way. 

So what, who cares about all that. I feel sad so it's my sadness. I don't care about your word games and mumbo jumbo. I need sex and i feel horny so it's mine. I get satisfied and the feeling goes away. That's all i care about. My satisfaction; not some spiritual nonsense about where feelings come from. I have feelings to care about, I have feelings to monitor and worry about not feeling. I thought they were yours. Can't you control them. Put them in check. If you can get a girlfriend so you can feel happy, why can't you do what's necessary to not feel sad ever again. Not after the fact, just not generate it to begin with. Enlightenment? Why do you need that if the feeling is yours to begin with. Just give away the suffering to charity or throw it somewhere far away if it's yours. What, you can't. It's abstract and not concrete. It's not in form. 

When we really stop to think about these things (not to mention thinking and ownership, but that's another discussion), we start to debunk our own existence. Our own neurosis. Wait, is that neurosis ours. Jesus. Who wants to do all that. Distractions where are you. 


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I think this is the case.


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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