Scott Horton debates Wesley Clark

[Raze]

Alt media for all its issues is important because it is finally an avenue to expose hawks for their ridiculous ideologies. Essentially Wesley himself admits the US lied about the Middle East, but now argues the public should trust them regarding Ukraine. He refuses to explain how Ukraine can win but just baselessly says Russia and China will somehow take freedom away from us.

It is ridiculous, people who still support mainstream foreign policy narratives by default aren’t even pseudo intellectuals at this point. 

[Scholar]

1 hour ago, Raze said:

Alt media for all its issues is important because it is finally an avenue to expose hawks for their ridiculous ideologies. Essentially Wesley himself admits the US lied about the Middle East, but now argues the public should trust them regarding Ukraine. He refuses to explain how Ukraine can win but just baselessly says Russia and China will somehow take freedom away from us.

It is ridiculous, people who still support mainstream foreign policy narratives by default aren’t even pseudo intellectuals at this point. 

 You literally are too unsophisticated to notice the nuance of "Not every war is the same.".

An irrational distrust of government is just as stupid as a unquestioned faith in it. 

 

People like you are a bane on existence.

[Raze]

21 minutes ago, Scholar said:

 You literally are too unsophisticated to notice the nuance of "Not every war is the same.".

An irrational distrust of government is just as stupid as a unquestioned faith in it. 

 

People like you are a bane on existence.

Because it’s not just about war, it’s the exact same people who have shown they are willing to lie for economic benefits now telling us something else.

It requires basic intelligence to be skeptical of their claims from that point forward.

Irregardless, the arguments for this war are even worse. They have given no plan for victory beyond fighting to the last Ukrainian, and it all hinges on a conspiracy theory Putin wants to recreate the Soviet Union, despite no real evidence of this and the CIA director admitting Russia thinks Ukraine in NATO is a existential threat.

[Scholar]

1 minute ago, Raze said:

Because it’s not just about war, it’s the exact same people who have shown they are willing to lie for economic benefits now telling us something else.

It requires basic intelligence to be skeptical of their claims from that point forward.

Irregardless, the arguments for this war are even worse. They have given no plan for victory beyond fighting to the last Ukrainian, and it all hinges on a conspiracy theory Putin wants to recreate the Soviet Union, despite no real evidence of this and the CIA director admitting Russia thinks Ukraine in NATO is a existential threat.

Jesus Christ, lmao.

[zazen]

Another good reason for alternative media:

 

[Raze]

20 minutes ago, Scholar said:

Jesus Christ, lmao.

>no argument

I accept your concession 

[Scholar]

3 minutes ago, Raze said:

>no argument

I accept your concession 

You didn't provide anything of substance, I can just reassert that you are wrong, and say the opposite is true. That's the only level of engagement you are capable of which to me is a waste of time.

I think people like you should be removed from this forum.

[Scholar]

22 minutes ago, zazen said:

Another good reason for alternative media:

 

 

The video you provided is an argument against alternative media. Even the video I provided is one, given how few people see it and how absurd of a skewing towards idiocy and lies the alternative media landscapes allows.