Bobby_2021

Value of Emotional Labour

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The more emotional labour you exert, the emotional labour the more growth you attain. Growth or benefits without putting in the emotional labour is flimsy and unsustainable and you will backside to your previous point of inertia.

But when do exert and expend energy over cracking the emotional nutcase, you get a kind of joy that cannot be destor even if you want to. A detached kind of happiness simmers in your heart that makes you free.

Fundamentally life is about exploration and exploring new things and understanding them requires you expend more emotional effort.

I have been lately involved in exploring many such avenues and couldn't be happier.

So do more of this. This is like the joy you get from cracking a tough problem. You are reorganize your life in a way you spend more time cracking your emotional mind and that will give you the highest returns into the future.

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Define emotional labour, in your own words.

I've also been looking for ways to exercise emotions.

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6 hours ago, ryoko said:

Define emotional labour, in your own words.

I've also been looking for ways to exercise emotions.

Try to imagine how your experience was when you were doing something incredibly difficult, and had to try over and over again until you actually made it. 

You could feel the mixed emotions in your head as you were slowly inching your way to progress. 

That's emotional labour. You get good at using it to your advantage ny noticing and feeling it more often.

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Absolutely! I would add on, only labor as much as necessary, no more. For example, stop worrying about things you ultimately have no control over. Emotionally labor over the things you CAN change, and change them for the better, even if its difficult.

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1 hour ago, EternalForest said:

Absolutely! I would add on, only labor as much as necessary, no more. For example, stop worrying about things you ultimately have no control over. Emotionally labor over the things you CAN change, and change them for the better, even if its difficult.

Yeah definitely. One thing I realised is that I can put longer effort on something over a longer period of time if I don't exert myself too much in the present and get burnt out.

Emotional labour is when actual growth happens so taking time to grow is well worth it. And you have plenty of time in day as long as you cut off distractions.

Feeling emotional labour is like taking a plank. It feels like a lot of time so no need to rush and burn out.

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2 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Try to imagine how your experience was when you were doing something incredibly difficult, and had to try over and over again until you actually made it. 

You could feel the mixed emotions in your head as you were slowly inching your way to progress. 

That's emotional labour. You get good at using it to your advantage ny noticing and feeling it more often.

Thanks for the explanation. I would redefine it as, picking up insane challenges and staying grounded no matter what. In layman's terms, exercising your ability to regulate emotions consciously. 

Here's a side note, with some work on yourself, you can unlock an ability, to regulate any emotion/pain. It works to some extend for physical pain caused from cuts(not so much on muscle cramps😂, I've tried it). But this is really powerful once you get the hang of it. It's basically having low-level control on the chemicals in your brain. 

I have a confession. There's some traps in this exercise I've fell into. First one is disregarding all emotions as useless/fleeting. This does distance you from the emotion itself. But this also makes you unable to work on anything at all. Because "every emotion is pointless". This way, whenever I encounter an emotionally challenging situation, I'd be like "ah, there's no point in enduring this, I know I can do it, but why would I", this is actually fine in early stages, and I'd argue absolutely needed, to identify the emotions you wanna invest in. 

Another trap is, using it when not in a challenging situation, much like monkey pressing a button to get his treat. And doing this will desensitise you to the whole thing. And further amplifies the first trap. Or rather, this is nuanced, you need to exercise this ability a lot in challenging situations to actually do this properly. 

And at some point you have realise(like right now), even if you have unlocked the ability to regulate any emotion, you can't do it for long periods of time with exercising it. And without that mind construct, naturally you'll go into power saving mode, and you'll never make use of the ability unless forced by the external situation. 

And the final, most important trap. Don't take what I said seriously. These are not hard rules you should try and stick to. Just a roadmap, so be sure to enjoy the ability however you want. But here we are talking about exercising emotions. So don't get it mixed up.

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What’s emotional labour? Like doing things that are difficult emotionally? Like for example the thing I could come up with is if you have social anxiety and expose yourself to social situations. So things that trigger emotions and allow you to work through them. Does the frustration of sitting still and concentrating on something count as an emotion? So doing like a strenuous task that requires effort does that count as emotional labour? Or are emotions just the classical ones like sadness, happiness, anger

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Emotional pain can also make you regress.

Plenty of traumatised people actually finish more immature than “normal” people.


Nothing will prevent Willy.

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12 hours ago, ryoko said:

Here's a side note, with some work on yourself, you can unlock an ability, to regulate any emotion/pain. It works to some extend for physical pain caused from cuts(not so much on muscle cramps😂, I've tried it). But this is really powerful once you get the hang of it. It's basically having low-level control on the chemicals in your brain. 

Exactly.

12 hours ago, ryoko said:

There's some traps in this exercise I've fell into. First one is disregarding all emotions as useless/fleeting. This does distance you from the emotion itself. But this also makes you unable to work on anything at all. Because "every emotion is pointless". This way, whenever I encounter an emotionally challenging situation, I'd be like "ah, there's no point in enduring this, I know I can do it, but why would I", this is actually fine in early stages, and I'd argue absolutely needed, to identify the emotions you wanna invest in.

We all fall into this trap over and over again for years and years on end. These traps are engrained into the psyche from billions of years of evolution. There is no easy way of dealing with it. These emotional barriers are the biggest bottleneck to all progress and growth in your life.

Emotional master is one of the most difficult things that you could ever attempt. Leo said it is even more difficult than enlightenment itself. 

11 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

What’s emotional labour? Like doing things that are difficult emotionally? Like for example the thing I could come up with is if you have social anxiety and expose yourself to social situations. So things that trigger emotions and allow you to work through them.

Yeah pretty much. That is exactly what I am talking about. Maybe you are stuck upon a difficult math problem that you are struggling to solve for days on end. That is all you are exerting emotional labor. Your biggest understanding of math or relationships will stem from these emotional labour you put in while trying to "crack" it. 

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Does the frustration of sitting still and concentrating on something count as an emotion? So doing like a strenuous task that requires effort does that count as emotional labour? Or are emotions just the classical ones like sadness, happiness, anger

Yes. Sitting still counts as emotional labour if you can do it long enough. Yes. Nah there are tens of thousands of shades of grey when it comes to emotions. The standards emotions are too crude to be of any significance. 

 

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10 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Emotional pain can also make you regress.

Plenty of traumatised people actually finish more immature than “normal” people.

This is so true and not emphasized enough. This is why it is important to do emotional labor voluntarily. 
Life will eventually make you exert emotional labor involuntarily. You are better off doing that on your own voluntarily for the safety and wellbeing of your own psyche. Emotions are so close to your internal system. having no control over how it functions can severely degrade your psyche. 

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Yep. Just see it like working out your body. You're not supposed to break your bones by working out, unless you're training for muai Thai, or doing hardening, where you break your bones little by little everyday. 

And hey, you're not gonna get traumatized by working on your life purpose. 

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2 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Yeah pretty much. That is exactly what I am talking about. Maybe you are stuck upon a difficult math problem that you are struggling to solve for days on end. That is all you are exerting emotional labor. Your biggest understanding of math or relationships will stem from these emotional labour you put in while trying to "crack" it. 

Yes. Sitting still counts as emotional labour if you can do it long enough. Yes. Nah there are tens of thousands of shades of grey when it comes to emotions. The standards emotions are too crude to be of any significance. 

I see. There’s big rewards in sitting through those difficult emotions. It’s like you’ve cracked open a new reality at the other side of the resistance.

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@Bobby_2021 Consciousness is its own myopia. If you can close your eyes and imagine that you have no physical body all of a sudden relative to the fluidity of your Consciousness that you can continue to grow you'll begin to realise that at the very least comparatively, paradoxically the world begins to open up for you. We ironically dial way back the moral determination of our own intellectual ascendence as soon as we associate ourselves as having a body as a consequence of the defensive analogue of biases that disrupt our expansive flow and essentially, dramatically unlock our abilities to be ignorant assholes bathing in the sun waiting for its blaze to burn through our skulls to wipeout our final neurons to serve the patriotism of our own intellectual apathy. And I use the related words to intellectualism here as short hand for consciousness expansion rather than the rudimentary cane through the nostrils perception people have of intellectuals themselves in light of how much further consciousness ascendence takes us however complementary of a role it of course has for expanding the power of our own minds. 

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