Breaking news: Syria has been liberated from Assad’s dictatorship

[PurpleTree]

15 minutes ago, integration journey said:

It’s interesting to observe how everyone is suddenly an expert on Syria. 

Do you (as a Syrian) think the overthrow could and did happen at this point because Russia is busy with Ukraine and Iran is busy with Israel?

 

 

 

 

"Iran and Russia the two big losers"

 

[PurpleTree]

French jihadis fighting against Assad

 

[Jirh]

Unexpectedly, one of the biggest potential problems in the near future will be the newly freed prisoners. It's estimated that Sidnaya prison alone had nearly 300000 prisoners inside, and they were all freed unconditionally. Obviously, many of them were captured unjustly for political reasons, but also a big portion are dangerous criminals. This demographic change will likely destabilize the country further. So I wonder what precautions the new government is taking, if any.

One of the biggest challenges in ruling is that you want to allow the most amount of freedom with the least amount of chaos. Syria under Assad was very strict and oppressive, however, there was order. The question now is how much freedom can the new government allow without sacrificing too much order?

[AION]

1 hour ago, integration journey said:

You are simplyfing too much. Do you know the amount of Syrians that had to immigrate to Europe and other countries during the war and got exposed to stage orange and green ? 

Those are drops in the bucket. 

[Lews Therin]

1 hour ago, integration journey said:

Most Syrian rebels are NOT Salfasit Jihadist FFS. Is that what the media is telling you ? This is not Afghanistan. 
If we were salafist Jihadist we wouldn’t leave Christian villages to rule themselves.

guys, you have to stop viewing Syria as you viewed Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. This is too myopic 
Again, Syria is a very diverse county and we lived together for hundreds of years Christians and Muslims together before Assad. 
Syria was originally build on the many diverse ethnic groups living in the land including Druze, Alawites and other groups and now all of us are united. 

Dude, you are talking like a propagandist of some sort. The media? It isn't the media who is telling us this, it is the rebel leader himself, all you have to do is look at the speach he gave, that was not a secularist speach, i could easily see the ayatolah saying those exact same words when he came to power in Iran.

That it is not to say it will allign with Iran, stage blue can hate stage blue just as well as any other stage, but that guy is pushing for orange values.

Also, saying that a country is unique is meaningless. Afghanistan was unique, so was Iraq, so was Brazil in 1964 and germany in the 1930s. Uniqueness doesn't mean much, every person is unique, and yet the illness one can suffer, so can the rest of them.

[integration journey]

9 minutes ago, AION said:

Those are drops in the bucket. 

No it’s not. It was in the millions 

[Raze]

The issue here is not development, there is such a thing as healthy stage blue.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon and even Syria were far better places to live at one point even when they had brutal dictators, and they should be able to surpass that if they had stability with a less tyrannically government.

They aren’t doomed to endless war and suffering, that is caused primarily by foreign meddling at least recently. 

[integration journey]

13 minutes ago, Lews Therin said:

Dude, you are talking like a propagandist of some sort. The media? It isn't the media who is telling us this, it is the rebel leader himself, all you have to do is look at the speach he gave, that was not a secularist speach, i could easily see the ayatolah saying those exact same words when he came to power in Iran.

That it is not to say it will allign with Iran, stage blue can hate stage blue just as well as any other stage, but that guy is pushing for orange values.

Also, saying that a country is unique is meaningless. Afghanistan was unique, so was Iraq, so was Brazil in 1964 and germany in the 1930s. Uniqueness doesn't mean much, every person is unique, and yet the illness one can suffer, so can the rest of them.

You are not going to get a full blown stage yellow secular speech after 60 years of dictatorship. It’s a step by step process.
His speech with its flaws is a step forward for Syria.
Anything will be better than Assad mark my words.
I’m not his supporter but I acknowledge that what he did was really good for our country. 
Let’s just see what the next few weeks bring. 

Edited December 9 by integration journey
Clarity

[integration journey]

3 minutes ago, Raze said:

The issue here is not development, there is such a thing as healthy stage blue.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon and even Syria were far better places to live at one point even when they had brutal dictators, and they should be able to surpass that if they had stability with a less tyrannically government.

They aren’t doomed to endless war and suffering, that is caused primarily by foreign meddling at least recently. 

Syria was not a good place to live with Assad in charge. Millions fled, thousands died of his bombing, thousands in prison. Women and kids in prison. Fuck him 

Edited December 9 by integration journey
Clarity

[integration journey]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Do you (as a Syrian) think the overthrow could and did happen at this point because Russia is busy with Ukraine and Iran is busy with Israel?

 

 

 

 

"Iran and Russia the two big losers"

 

Correct! Assad was nothing without Iran and Russia

[Lyubov]

This is sort of to be expected though no? It’s difficult for a state to survive a long time and put in place a sustainable way of functioning, for many reasons. I would hope Syria could build a stable state from this but I’m guessing they have a ton of challenges ahead. 

[integration journey]

2 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

This is sort of to be expected though no? It’s difficult for a state to survive a long time and put in place a sustainable way of functioning, for many reasons. I would hope Syria could build a stable state from this but I’m guessing they have a ton of challenges ahead. 

Yes 🤍

[integration journey]

[gambler]

Israel shamelessly grabbing more land. To create a buffer zone.. for their buffer zone's buffer zone...

There's always an excuse. Always a justification. Absolutely ridiculous.

Edited December 9 by gambler

[AION]

1 hour ago, integration journey said:

No it’s not. It was in the millions 

Nah..

We would see secular factions in Syria if that was the case. They have almost no influence in Syria. Even if those few secular Syrians go back. 

[integration journey]

1 minute ago, AION said:

Nah..

We would see secular factions in Syria if that was the case. They have almost no influence in Syria. Even if those few secular Syrians go back. 

Let’s see what happens 

[PurpleTree]

Turkish backed forces allegedly already pushing back SDF and Kurds

 

“A Turkish drone strike in a Kurdish-held area in northern Syria killed 11 civilians including six children, a war monitor said Monday. ”

 

 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

The Truth About Syria.

[gambler]

25 minutes ago, AION said:

Nah..

We would see secular factions in Syria if that was the case. They have almost no influence in Syria. Even if those few secular Syrians go back. 

As a middle eastern, I'm done with this secular farce. Secularism isn't going to save us.

What we need is decentralization of authority and power. We need economic prosperity. We need a Middle East free of bad actors, namely a certain blue and white country subjugating the natives because of muh book and muh ancestors from 2000 years before present. Free from America's no-skin-in-the-game foreign policy. Free from the west's cultural hegemony. You have your culture, let us have ours. These things are more important than setting up a constitution that no one will respect.

Edited December 9 by gambler

[PurpleTree]

29 minutes ago, gambler said:

As a middle eastern, I'm done with this secular farce. Secularism isn't going to save us.

What we need is decentralization of authority and power. We need economic prosperity. We need a Middle East free of bad actors, namely a certain blue and white country subjugating the natives because of muh book and muh ancestors from 2000 years before present. Free from America's no-skin-in-the-game foreign policy. Free from the west's cultural hegemony. You have your culture, let us have ours. These things are more important than setting up a constitution that no one will respect.

Yea because it’s much better with Russian, Saudi and Iranian, Turkish influence?

I mean in a perfect world there wouldn’t be any bad outside influence. But that’s seemingly just not realistic.