Breaking news: Syria has been liberated from Assad’s dictatorship

[integration journey]

Edited December 8, 2024 by integration journey
Clarity

[Leo Gura]

But what comes next?

[Raze]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But what comes next?

I suspect another civil war between all the different factions 

[integration journey]

10 minutes ago, Raze said:

I suspect another civil war between all the different factions 

Wrong because there are no different factions left and the syrian rebels have taken over everything. The minority groups will be fine and Syria is finally back to Syrians. Also, the Syrian rebels includes people from all over Syria. 

in Syria we lived as Muslims and Christians next to each other for hundreds of years and we will continue to.

You can’t compare us to Iraq and Libya. Syria has it own complex makeup which makes it very diverse and unique. Just watch us succeed as a country finally. 

[Something Funny]

@integration journey wow, congrats!

[Husseinisdoingfine]

I can’t believe that vermin such as John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and their vile ilk came out victorious in the geopolitical chess game that was the Syrian Civil War.

[Raze]

32 minutes ago, integration journey said:

Wrong because there are no different factions left and the syrian rebels have taken over everything. The minority groups will be fine and Syria is finally back to Syrians. Also, the Syrian rebels includes people from all over Syria. 

in Syria we lived as Muslims and Christians next to each other for hundreds of years and we will continue to.

You can’t compare us to Iraq and Libya. Syria has it own complex makeup which makes it very diverse and unique. Just watch us succeed as a country finally. 

There are different factions of rebels

[integration journey]

3 minutes ago, Raze said:

There are different factions of rebels

Syrian rebels are finally united after 10 years of brutal war. They wouldn’t be able to topple Assad if they weren’t united. 

[Raze]

 

[integration journey]

10 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@integration journey wow, congrats!

Thank you 🤍

[Raze]

Just now, integration journey said:

Syrian rebels are finally united after 10 years of brutal war. They wouldn’t be able to topple Assad if they weren’t united. 

Yes because they had a common enemy, but now they’re going to be competing with each other for influence. 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

But what comes next?

We discussed this in another thread,

but mostly likely some sort of Islamist government.

The Syrian rebels did not consist of Democrats. Their leader, Abu Mohammad al-Julani was a former ISIS, Al-Nusra, and Al-Qaeda operator.

Assad was resented largely for his secularism.

So to answer the question of what comes next, most likely an Islamic society similar to that in Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Iran.

Edited December 8, 2024 by Husseinisdoingfine

[integration journey]

35 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

We discussed this in another thread,

but mostly likely some sort of Islamist government.

The Syrian rebels did not consist of Democrats. Their leader, Abu Mohammad al-Julani was a former ISIS, Al-Nusra, and Al-Qaeda operator.

Assad was resented largely for his secularism.

So to answer the question of what comes next, most likely an Islamic society similar to that in Afghanistan.

No! 
first of all Syria is too diverse to be like Afghanistan. 
Second, Assad was never a secular ruler, he just wanted the west to view him this way. He was a militant motherfucker who destroyed Syrian lives from Christian, Armenian and Alawaite communities. 
third , Julani has said that HTS will probably dissolve  it self because Syria is too diverse to ruled by some Islamists unless that’s what people want. 

[gambler]

Arab spring was a joke. I was in university when that first began and I was distraught by it because I had a feeling it was going to be a shit show. Anything the west backed I was cynical about, since their foreign policy in the Middle East historically destabilizes it further. I desperately wish the Arab spring never happened. Libya and Syria could’ve been free from all the bloodshed. And I’m still cynical. If you’re not a bootlicker for the west, the west will get you one day. 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

3 minutes ago, integration journey said:

No! 
first of all Syria is too diverse to be like Afghanistan. 
Second, Assad was never a secular ruler, he just wanted the west to view him this way. He was a militant motherfucker who destroyed Syrian lives from Christian, Armenian and Alawaite communities. 
third , Julani has said that HTS will probably dissolve  it self because Syria is too diverse to ruled by some Islamists unless that’s what people want. 

HTS is an explicitly Sunni Islamist organization and the SSG already rules the parts it controls as an Islamic State.

I doubt Julani won’t just change his mind or isn’t lying. He was a former Al-Qaeda operator, and overnight just turns into a liberal Democrat? No.

At best it will be something like Pakistan, where there will be some democracy, but the official religion will be Islam. And at worse it will become an Islamic emirate like Afghanistan.

[gambler]

1 minute ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

HTS is an explicitly Sunni Islamist organization and the SSG already rules the parts it controls as an Islamic State.

I doubt Julani won’t just change his mind or isn’t lying. He was a former Al-Qaeda operator, and overnight just turns into a liberal Democrat? No.

At best it will be something like Pakistan, where there will be some democracy, but the official religion will be Islam. And at worse it will become an Islamic emirate like Afghanistan.

At worst it does something to help the poor Palestinians and gets Gaza’d by the **** blue and white country that shall not be named. 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

3 minutes ago, gambler said:

At worst it does something to help the poor Palestinians and gets Gaza’d by the **** blue and white country that shall not be named. 

The axis of resistance is beginning to fall. 
 

The HTS is an opponent of Hezbollah. This victory means Iran can’t transport weapons to Lebanon from Syria, who in turn can’t transport weapons to Hamas.

[integration journey]

16 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

HTS is an explicitly Sunni Islamist organization and the SSG already rules the parts it controls as an Islamic State.

I doubt Julani won’t just change his mind or isn’t lying. He was a former Al-Qaeda operator, and overnight just turns into a liberal Democrat? No.

At best it will be something like Pakistan, where there will be some democracy, but the official religion will be Islam. And at worse it will become an Islamic emirate like Afghanistan.

I see this too cynical for the future of Syria because again Syria is too diverse to be like Pakistan or Afghanistan. 
Let’s just see what happens in the next few days. 

[BlueOak]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

But what comes next?

1, Multi-state solution
2, Regional Goverments
3, Infighting until 1 happens.

Russia and BRICS will of course push their influence back in to destabilize the country, as they are doing in Romania and eastern Europe. So the logical conclusion is either long term instability, which is what we sort of had, or a multi state solution.
 

Edited December 8, 2024 by BlueOak

[gambler]

22 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

1, Multi-state solution

This is ridiculous. The west spammed this everywhere back when ISIS took over a third of Iraq. Thinking about three separate states in Iraq. But it’s dumb then and dumb now, especially when it comes to Syria. Firstly, Kurds don’t have much lands in Syria, and their villages are separated with Arab ones in between, and they’re Sunni anyways. As for the Shia regions, it’s too small for a tenable state. 
 

Edited December 8, 2024 by gambler