Thoughts on the 2 supplement stacks I've made with chat GPT?

[Something Funny]

Focus and Calm Stack (6–8 weeks):

• L-Theanine: Daily (optional on rest days).
• Lion’s Mane: Daily.
• Bacopa Monnieri: Daily.
• Ashwagandha: Daily or 5 days on, 2 days off.
• Optional Psilocybin Microdosing: Every 2–3 days (e.g., Mon, Wed, Fri).

Rest Period (2 weeks):

• Stop all adaptogens (Ashwagandha, Bacopa Monnieri).
• Continue Lion’s Mane and L-Theanine if desired (these don’t require cycling).
• Pause psilocybin microdosing during this period to further reset.

Rhodiola Rosea Stack (4–6 weeks):

• Rhodiola Rosea: Daily or 5 days on, 2 days off.
• L-Theanine: Daily (optional on rest days).
• Lion’s Mane: Daily (optional for synergy).
• Optional Psilocybin Microdosing: Every 2–3 days (alternate with Rhodiola-free days if overstimulation is an issue).

Rest Period (2 weeks)
Repeat Cycle: Return to Stack 1.

[Leeo_SA]

@Something Funny What is your goal with it?

Did you do it? What are your experience? Preferences on supplements are highly subjective.

I tried a few of yours like ashwagandha and lions mane. First one didnt affect me at all and with lions mane I had a bit more awareness. Didnt do micrososing of psilocybin - how much do you take?

I am doing L-Tyrosin and Microdosing Iboga for 30 days for balancing my mood and dopamine system and it works extremely well. 

[PurpleTree]

It’s very individual.

I didn’t do good on Rhodiola and Bacopa for example. Rhodiola gave me agitation/anger and Bacopa kind of lowered my mood etc.

[Something Funny]

@Leeo_SA yes, I am taking them, but without mixrodosing at the moment.

It's hard to say what helps and what doesn't because I take everything together, and I also don't feel anything special. It just feels kind of solid, I guess.

I think it makes me less anxious and prone to procrastination.

My goals are: dealing witg adhd, anxiety, procrustination.

On 12/29/2024 at 0:54 PM, Leeo_SA said:

doing L-Tyrosin and Microdosing Iboga for 30 days for balancing my mood and dopamine system and it works extremely well. 

I would like to try those as well. Have no idea where to get Iboga though. I see that you are from switzerland, do you get it locally or is there some international website?

[Something Funny]

@PurpleTree i see

[Leeo_SA]

@Something Funny

i got it from my father. He tried it but didnt have Any effects. He got it online Form germany because it is legal over there.

maybe you get it from darknet? 

[Something Funny]

1 hour ago, Leeo_SA said:

@Something Funnymaybe you get it from darknet? 

Idk, sounds sketchy. But I will look it up, thanks.

[Leeo_SA]

11 hours ago, Something Funny said:

Idk, sounds sketchy. But I will look it up, thanks.

since those Substances Are illegal, I cannot think of another way which isnt sketchy...Even if you have a dealer, you never know for sure what you are consuming. For this case I Like switzerland. There is public authority avaiable, where you can test your substances for exact ingredience.

[manuel bon]

Rhodiola had a negative impact on my immune system, it made me super weak

[Schizophonia]

What's the point ? 

[Michael569]

That's a fairly rigorous protocol. Are you aiming for any particular goal or just overall optimisation?

 

[Something Funny]

@Schizophonia @Michael569 adhd, anxiety, and procrastination

[Something Funny]

@manuel bon that's weird

[Michael569]

11 hours ago, Something Funny said:

adhd, anxiety, and procrastination

thanks!

The stack is pretty decent for anxiety to support mood balance overall. 

Tho some of the adaptogens might be contraindicated as they can be stimulating your body to release more adrenergic hormones which isn't desirable in anxiety. Something to pay attention to if you do suffer from anxiety attacks and notice them recurring more often  rather than subsiding. In that case you would want to go down nervine route as an alternative (Passiflora, melissa, lavender, schisandra, chamomile etc...those sorts of things) to calm things down. 

Is it a medically diagnosed Anxiety as in regular anxiety attacks or more like "feeling anxious" about things?

 

For ADHD two additional components of potential interest are Omega 3 and Vitamin D. 

Omega 3 - Although the most recent Cochrane review didn't exactly glorify the usage, it found some use for Omega 3 in ADHD. Whether dietary or supplemental, paying attention to it might help. 

Vit D -  Testing your current blood levels could be worth the investment. Low vitamin D levels have been associated with both poorer mental health and worsened ADHD symptoms. Given there are receptors for Vitamin D all over the cognitive part of the brain, it may have a major role in neurogenesis and memory/attention , at least mechanistically speaking. 

Interestingly some evidence shows ADHD is more common in kids born to moms with low Omega 3 and low vitamin D pre-natal and during pregnancy. Doesn't mean irreversible, just sometimes things happen to you that are not your fault  Also, this was just an observational association so could have come down to other factors, these effects are hard to extrapolate in isolation. 

 

Outside of supplements which could be considered less than 5%, both anxiety and ADHD can be greatly impacted by your lifestyle, diet, levels of physical activity, balancing of time spent in parasympathetically vs sympathetically dominant state, taking sufficient time off as well as your individual pursuit of meaning vs pleasure etc. Also, your environment could be a major trigger of both anxiety and ADHD symptoms. Those are all worth exploring as you're trying to get on the top of this. 

 

With regards to procrastination, personally I find it comes down to being overwhelmed or not being entirely interested in the thing you're pursuing. So if you force your brain to do things that , deep down, you have no interest in you may find yourself procrastinating as a form of avoidance of the needed emotional labour which is  significantly higher compared to doing something you are passionate about. 

The second reason, being overwhelmed, can happen too. Perhaps you're loading too much on your plate and need to take a step back? 

A single point of focus is preferable to trying to get lot done and having too many goals and aims. Funny enough, you end up getting more done as a result of mono focus compared to multitasking and multi-aiming.

Anyways, Ignore if these things feel irrelevant, maybe they are. 

 

Edited Thursday at 11:45 AM by Michael569

[manuel bon]

11 hours ago, Something Funny said:

@manuel bon that's weird

Actually I read that it's one of the possible side effects

[Schizophonia]

12 hours ago, Something Funny said:

@Schizophonia @Michael569 adhd, anxiety, and procrastination

Good food, good sleep, and "dopamine detox" is the efficient, holistic way to go.

Edited Thursday at 12:42 PM by Schizophonia

[Something Funny]

@Michael569 I wouldn't say it's anxiety "attacks" per say. More like overthinking and catastrophising think which then also ties it into overwhelm and procrastination.

Basically, I easily get super anxious and overwhelmed even by very minor things, and procrastinate because of it, I guess.

For example, this year I've been very paranoid about procrastinating at work. There were multiple times where I thought that I am completely fucked, worrying that I will get fired or fail in some really catastrophic way, and almost had a nervous breakdown and quit myself to prevent it. But every time nothing bad happens and during the yearly review last month I got "exceeding expectations" grade from my team leader, lmao. 

This example is fairly big, but I can do the same thing about smaller stuff like fixing a bike, or selling my old clothes, or applying for a residence permit, etc. I will get into these stress spirals, being anxious 24/7 and procrastinating even more because of it, only to find out that the thing I was worried about takes a few hours to do and is kind of enjoyable...

This is the constant theme for me. 

So it's not like I actually have too much on my plate, even though this can also be the case sometimes, but it's not the main factor.

Do you think nervine route will be better for me?

10 hours ago, Michael569 said:

For ADHD two additional components of potential interest are Omega 3 and Vitamin D. 

 

I've started taking those recently. I think it helps, but it's hard to tell because it is all so subtle.

10 hours ago, Michael569 said:

In that case you would want to go down nervine route as an alternative (Passiflora, melissa, lavender, schisandra, chamomile etc...those sorts of things) to calm things down. 

My grandma actually used to give me valerian pills, almost daily, when I was a kid. Because I would also stress a lot or be over active or something, I am not sure. I don't really remember what effect it had on me, if any, because it was so long ago. Does valerian also work in the same way as the plants you've mentioned?

[Something Funny]

8 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Good food, good sleep, and "dopamine detox" is the efficient, holistic way to go.

But I can't do it. That's the issue. I am trying to find something that will give me a leg up and will allow me to sleep better, eat better, do a dopamine detox, exercise, etc.

[Schizophonia]

57 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

But I can't do it. That's the issue. I am trying to find something that will give me a leg up and will allow me to sleep better, eat better, do a dopamine detox, exercise, etc.

You do what you want but supplements are just a crutch.

But otherwise the best supplement i know are :

-Cerebrolysin

-Semax

-NSI 189

-Dihexa

-Methylene Blue

 

 

[Something Funny]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

You do what you want but supplements are just a crutch.

But otherwise the best supplement i know are :

-Cerebrolysin

-Semax

-NSI 189

-Dihexa

-Methylene Blue

 

 

I have never heard of those. Can you actually by them or is it some niche/restricted stuff?