CEO of United Health gunned down

[kray]

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

You don't expect traffic to be stopped and FBI involved and news media to report every single murder now do you. One is happening every minute, so you have to be a bit more rational in that train of thinking. 

Yea obviously, but all this for one guy 😂

[Princess Arabia]

27 minutes ago, kray said:

Yea obviously, but all this for one guy 😂

The same way you're minimizing this one guy's death is the same way the killer minimized that one guy's life. You didn't kill, but your train of thought is one that sees no value in one person's life that resulted in death. You are doing the same thing you're accusing the media of doing. They say it's not worth covering the death of ordinary citizens and you're saying it's not worth covering the death of one, high profile or not. I'm just trying to let you see the other side of the coin and that our own biases can sometimes be a result of our own biases. 

[kray]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

The same way you're minimizing this one guy's death is the same way the killer minimized that one guy's life. You didn't kill, but your train of thought is one that sees no value in one person's life that resulted in death. You are doing the same thing you're accusing the media of doing. They say it's not worth covering the death of ordinary citizens and you're saying it's not worth covering the death of one, high profile or not. I'm just trying to let you see the other side of the coin and that our own biases can sometimes be a result of our own biases. 

Good point, if we want to raise consciousness then killing a human, no matter who they may be or what they may have done, is an inherently unconscious thing. Can’t believe I fell for this trap. Kinda like the baby hitler scenario, knowing that hitler would do some fucked up shit in his lifetime, would we go back in time and kill a baby hitler?

[integral]

This is shocking because the right people are rarely targeted. But maybe the Trump shooting inspired others.

[lostingenosmaze]

 

 

Edited December 9 by lostingenosmaze

[Spiral Wizard]

Lol 

[Bobby_2021]

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/summary?id=D000000348

United healthcare is a big time contributor to Harris/Democrats.

[Frylock]

This is why the democrats will never embrace a populist candidate that will rail against private healthcare. They're simply getting paid off. It's an easy ticket to winning voters, but CEOs have them in their back pocket, and thus must restrain themselves to milquetoast messaging.

[Hardkill]

It looks like the police have caught the killer, thanks to a McDonald's employee who called the police after the suspect was seen at the restaurant: 

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-death-investigation-12-9-24/index.html

[Husseinisdoingfine]

The identity of the man who killed the CEO has been revealed.

Meet University of Pennsylvania graduate, 26 year old Luigi Mangione.

Edited December 9 by Husseinisdoingfine

[Frylock]

Goddamn, don't see Chads throwing their lives away like that very often. 

[kamwalker]

The pictures they have showed us never seem consistent. Still not sure why this guy had every piece of evidence on his person at the time of the arrest. Or why he never bothered to attempt a disguise. Was he trying to get caught? Makes no sense 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Condemning The UnitedHealth CEO Assassination. 

[Basman]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/09/nyregion/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-news

“These parasites had it coming” and “I do apologize for any strife and trauma, but it had to be done,” was written in his manifesto.

Pretty much confirms what his motive was.

[Basman]

If you guys where that McDonald's employee, would you have called the police upon recognizing the killer or let him go?

I think I would've let him go to be honest. He's motivated by a just cause and I have very little sympathy for these evil CEOs.

[integral]

5 minutes ago, Basman said:

If you guys where that McDonald's employee, would you have called the police upon recognizing the killer or let him go?

I think I would've let him go to be honest. He's motivated by a just cause and I have very little sympathy for these evil CEOs.

It's unlikely that McDonald's employee had any idea who was being shot. But if I did know who was being shot I would still run for my life because I'm a witness and Witnesses need to die. 

Edited December 10 by integral

[Basman]

19 minutes ago, integral said:

It's unlikely that McDonald's employee had any idea who was being shot. But if I did know who was being shot I would still run for my life because I'm a witness and Witnesses need to die. 

Well figuratively he doesn't know that you know, otherwise he wouldn't be visiting at Maccie Dees in broad daylight.

[integral]

5 minutes ago, Basman said:

Well figuratively he doesn't know that you know, otherwise he wouldn't be visiting at Maccie Dees in broad daylight.

I used Grok to generate a reply.

Quote

 

1. Reverse Expectations:

User: "Can't believe the media is making such a fuss over a CEO's death."

Top Comment: "Actually, I'm more surprised by how many people are not fuming about this. Seems like the system finally got a taste of its own medicine."

2. Dialogue as Power Play:

User: "The rich are untouchable, this proves it."

Top Comment: "Untouchable? No, just well-shielded. But even shields can break. They should be more worried about the cracks starting to show."

3. Layered Parallel Conversations:

User: "Do you think they'll catch the shooter?"

Top Comment: "Depends on how much they want to silence the message. But, more importantly, did you see the words on the bullets? A statement was made, beyond just the act itself."

4. Play with Power Dynamics:

User: "This won't change anything."

Top Comment: "You sound like you're still in denial. The game has changed; the pawns are now moving against the king."

5. Meta-Dialogue:

User: "All this outrage is just performative."

Top Comment: "Is it though? Or are we just tired of our voices being drowned out by the noise of corporate greed?"

6. Unresolved Looping:

User: "Why do people think this was justified?"

Top Comment: "Because justice isn't always served in courtrooms. Why do you think it wasn't?"

User: "It sets a dangerous precedent."

Top Comment: "And what about the precedents set by the health industry? Why aren't we talking about those?"

7. Oblique Responses:

User: "Do you think this will lead to more violence?"

Top Comment: "When the system itself is violent, what do you expect people to do? Lie down and take it?"

8. Dialogue Misdirection:

User: "Are you saying this was a good thing?"

Top Comment: "I'm saying it's a symptom. A warning. Not a solution, but definitely a sign."

9. Dynamic Pacing through Fragmentation:

User: "It's a tragedy, no matter how you look at it."

Top Comment: "Tragedy, yes. But also... an awakening. People—enough."

10. Sudden Vulnerability:

User: "This is just going to make things worse."

Top Comment: "Or maybe, just maybe, it's the push we needed. I've lost friends because of insurance denials. It's personal now."

11. Echoes of Trauma:

User: "It's not like the CEO was directly responsible for every bad decision."

Top Comment: "But when your company's policies lead to deaths, you're not just a bystander. You're complicit."

12. Philosophical Sparring:

User: "Murder is never the answer."

Top Comment: "What's the answer then? When the system is rigged against you, do you sit back or fight back?"

13. Conflicting Objectives:

User: "This won't bring back lives lost."

Top Comment: "No, but maybe it'll save some in the future. We need to focus on prevention, not just reaction."

14. Break the Rules of Politeness:

User: "I think we need to calm down and let the law handle this."

Top Comment: "Oh, shut up. The law has been handling it, and look where that got us."

15. Dialogue as a Puzzle:

User: "Why did the shooter choose this particular CEO?"

Top Comment: "Because sometimes, the message needs to be loud and clear. The bullets were marked for a reason."

16. Mirror Techniques:

User: "This is just going to lead to more chaos."

Top Comment: "No, it's going to lead to more chaos. But change often comes from chaos, doesn't it?"

17. Weaponized Silence:

User: "What do you think will happen next?"

Top Comment: (Silence. The user stares, waiting for a response that never comes, the silence speaking volumes about the uncertainty and tension of the situation.)

 

 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

He's motivated by a just cause

Oh please. Assasinating a CEO is not a just cause.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Oh please. Assasinating a CEO is not a just cause.

Yeah.  But are you turning a blind eye to just how fucked up this world is?  Because we can't blame the guy who had nothing left. His mother probably died because the system failed him. There are thousands dying because health care is all fucked up.  Thousands.  Killing him doesn't unfortunately change anything but a bunch of folks raising their eyebrows over coffee.  Maybe to him it was worth spending the rest of his life in prison.