CEO of United Health gunned down

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Raze said:

apparently he had really bad back pain

Probably caused from eating poison. McDonalds sells poison.

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Frylock said:

He seemed to have quite a high IQ,

Not high enough to be eating poison. McDonald's is poison. High IQ means nothing. Only shows how much you've studied.

[Staples]

12 hours ago, Raze said:

But then it will be outcompeted by the companies that do maximize profit 

Not necessarily. Such a company could easily eat itself alive.

[Frylock]

7 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Not high enough to be eating poison. McDonald's is poison. High IQ means nothing. Only shows how much you've studied.

I've read that his classmates that went to private school with him said he never studied or was serious, and still aced his tests and became valedictorian.

I never said he had common sense, though. Him sitting down and eating at a restaraunt at all while the heat was on was pretty stupid and crass.

[Scholar]

On 6.12.2024 at 8:21 AM, kray said:

Okay we all obviously know the motive here, but I’ve never seen the news network do this much coverage on a murder, single targeted murder. There’s already a manhunt and the NYPD shut down traffic to and out of manhattan for a while. I really  wonder if your average murder victim on a random day gets this type of coverage….

The average murder should not get as much attention, because it does not stem from an ideological virus.

Political violence has to always be viewed with more urgency than a personal murder incident. The news networks are doing their jobs here. 

 

It's like when people complain about news media covering terrorism, when thousands more die in car accidents every year. It's a very naive and simplistic form of analysis that is more so motivated by moral outrage than anything else.

 

 

As soon as you feel moral outrage, you should seriously question whatever your mind is going to tell you next. This is the easiest way for the algorithms, other people and most importantly your own ego, to manipulate you.

[Lyubov]

Count me in the don’t care that he offed a CEO. I’m not going to try and smell my own farts and pretend I’m “more developed” and say how he shouldn’t have done this. He did and it is what it is. This is bringing attention to unbelievably predatory business practices that are affecting real people’s lives. Is it a solution? Nope. But it’s definitely moving things forward. I hope he’s able to get off easy. He is young.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

19 hours ago, ricachica said:

Seems pretty shortsighted to simply leave. Extremely unlikely for most people to completely uproot and leave a society, family, and friends etc. they built their entire lives around.

He already did uproot his life and leave society, he's literally going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

 

If he's okay with making the radical and life altering decision of committing literal murder, then I bet he can make the infinitely less radical decision of moving to another country.

19 hours ago, ricachica said:

Moving doesn’t solve his broader scale griefs of societies peril at the hands of insurance companies either. That would just solve it on a really personal level.

Why should he be bothered with fixing societies peril and systemic issues of insurance companies and capitalism? Americans are too (politically) retarded to fix such things. They were given a clear option between Bernie Sanders and centrist libs during the Democratic primary elections, and they chose the centrist libs. 

If Americans suffer from their retarded voting decisions and the resulting dysfunctional healthcare-system, that's on them. He should have been looking out for himself. 

Edited December 11 by Husseinisdoingfine

[JTL]

23 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course gov regulation is crucial. But yes it is a company'a job to regulate itself too if we are to have a healthy society.

A company's top priority should not be to maximize profit.

@Leo Gura I agree with you, but what should be the top priority? 

[Hsinav]

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

The irony is, McDonald's food causes health issues. 

And so does 90% of the food people eat.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Anyone who consumes McDonald's is not a conscious person, plain and simple. 

[UnbornTao]

@Husseinisdoingfine Watch the use of capslock.

Edited December 11 by UnbornTao

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Hsinav said:

And so does 90% of the food people eat.

Not sure if you're referring to the percentage of people who eat toxic foods or the percentage of foods out there that are toxic.

I mentioned McDonald's because that's where he was snacking at, the poison house, when he was captured for murdering the CEO of a company that's supposed to foot the bill that McDonald's causes by poisoning the body after eating their food. 

Edited December 11 by Princess Arabia

[Spiral Wizard]

8 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

He already did uproot his life and leave society, he's literally going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

 

If he's okay with making the radical and life altering decision of committing literal murder, then I bet he can make the infinitely less radical decision of moving to another country.

Why should he be bothered with fixing societies peril and systemic issues of insurance companies and capitalism? Americans are too (politically) retarded to fix such things. They were given a clear option between Bernie Sanders and centrist libs during the Democratic primary elections, and they chose the centrist libs. 

If Americans suffer from their retarded voting decisions and the resulting dysfunctional healthcare-system, that's on them. He should have been looking out for himself. 

Interesting perspective. 

I would guess he wasn’t willing to run away from a problem and acted in integrity with his values. Meaning, moving to another country won’t solve the problem. What is a good life worth if what you believe is more important (like making a change) is being run away from?

He saw a problem and thought it needed fixing. That is independent of what the rest of the country thinks or votes for. He has his responsibility, and acted accordingly to his values and understandings. He wanted to make a change and maybe even be a hero. 

If we make a problem important enough in our heads, believing that it’s objectively true, without recognizing that it’s actually not a problem but just unresolved pain within & a strong identification with those thoughts… then violence may seem like a solid solution. 

But it’s not. It’s a delusion. 

That being said, life plays itself out so who knows. This may be a valid collective self correcting mechanism. Violence is happening. There is no arguing with that. Is it necessary for the evolution of the whole? Or just a misstep/shadow? I don’t know. 

 

Edited December 11 by Spiral Wizard

[Bobby_2021]

On 12/6/2024 at 0:56 PM, Bobby_2021 said:

Good riddance lmao

@NoSelfSelf Why was a warning issued on this post? This post is totally on point. 

[ricachica]

10 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

HE ALREADY DID UPROOT HIS LIFE AND LEAVE SOCIETY, HE'S LITERALLY GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF HIS LIFE IN PRISON.

If he's okay with making the radical and life altering decision of committing literal murder, then I bet he can make the infinitely less radical decision of moving to another country.

Why should he be bothered with fixing societies peril and systemic issues of insurance companies and capitalism? Americans are too (politically) retarded to fix such things. They were given a clear option between Bernie Sanders and centrist libs during the Democratic primary elections, and they chose the centrist libs. 

If Americans suffer from their retarded voting decisions and the resulting dysfunctional healthcare-system, that's on them. He should have been looking out for himself. 

I would bet that telling him to move to another country would just make him angrier and add more to his point.

He seems like a highly passionate and desperate person, especially in that video of him yelling with the cops walking him. Though his passion of course led to a short-term solution of murder.

When MLK Jr. came upon some kids who were celebrating the violent riots at the time, he told them we shouldn’t be celebrating violence, that it wouldn’t solve things in the long-term. The kids responded that it at least definitely got everyone’s attention. Sometimes attention is the best you can get in corruption and social injustices.

“These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear?” - MLK

Do I think murder is the answer for long-term change? Not really. Of course I’d rather a world where Luigi walked up to the CEO, introduced himself and gave him a handshake, and explained his grievances for 2 minutes. But how likely would that have been?

[integral]

I would have been impressed if the guy had done it completely without leaving any trace, so he couldn't get caught. And then went around targeting hundreds of people in a grand Batman tail.

If I was delusional enough to do all this I would do it in a way where I don't get caught? Right?

And if I really was delusional enough I'll do it in a way that it's perfectly legal.

Smart people commit every crime legally.

Edited December 12 by integral

[Princess Arabia]

30 minutes ago, integral said:

Smart people commit every crime legally.

This made me chuckle. Don't know if it's legal or if it's a crime. 

[integral]

35 minutes ago, Spiral Wizard said:

How would you do hundreds of targeted murders legally? 

Well that's easy you give people cancer. Cancer is legal, it takes 3-5 years to develop and kills them indefinitely. Untraceable, no one would ever think to investigate a crime, its just cancer.

The trick is to shift the mindset away from short term gain.

Disclaimer this is not legal advice. 

Edited December 12 by integral

[Leo Gura]

11 hours ago, JTL said:

@Leo Gura I agree with you, but what should be the top priority? 

Higher values like betterment of mankind, consciousness, justice, truth, beauty, etc.

[BuddhistLover]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Higher values like betterment of mankind, consciousness, justice, truth, beauty, etc.

See? This right here, this is what it should be. Some actual seriously helpful things. This is what I support.