CEO of United Health gunned down

[integral]

Assassination attempts on the rich, will only make the rich more powerful. Maybe

[Leo Gura]

You guys are getting unhinged.

[Hardkill]

7 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

The identity of the man who killed the CEO has been revealed.

Meet University of Pennsylvania graduate, 26 year old Luigi Mangione.

Wait a minute....

He doesn't look that buff in this photo:

[Raze]

Like I said, they already normalized government spying and no knock warrants, imagine what they’ll do if the elite actually feel like the masses are a threat. 

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Hardkill said:

Wait a minute....

He doesn't look that buff in this photo:

TRT?

[What Am I]

1 minute ago, Hardkill said:

Wait a minute....

He doesn't look that buff in this photo

Muscle can come and go pretty quickly depending on his current routine and/or testosterone injections.

That being said, who could say for sure whether it's actually the same guy.

[What Am I]

4 minutes ago, Raze said:

Like I said, they already normalized government spying and no knock warrants, imagine what they’ll do if the elite actually feel like the masses are a threat. 

I would imagine there's various plans laid out for that eventuality. It'd almost be negligent if that wasn't the case. It's scary to think about said plans' contents.

Edited December 10 by What Am I

[Hardkill]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Oh please. Assasinating a CEO is not a just cause.

There's absolutely no excuse for killing the CEO.

However, the killer claimed to do it for political reasons. 

Nevertheless, this Luigi guy needs to be locked up in a mental institution. He very likely hasn't been properly diagnosed with a severe psychological disorder yet.

[Spiral Wizard]

Yeah, he didn’t seem that clear headed with his escape plan. I’d flee the country on the same day. And if I couldn’t I would definitely NOT sit in a PUBLIC restaurant like McDonalds!?!?! Like WTF bunker down in a basement or in nature until everyone has forgotten about this before you leave cover… 

Not sure what this guy was thinking. 

I guess it’s the dilemma of if you are ‘stupid’ (meaning unwise, unloving, traumatized, blind, etc.) enough to commit a crime you are also too stupid to do it well. Unless of course it’s organized crime.

But I don’t know. Would be so curious to interview the guy!

Edit/PS.: 400th posts, yayy haha 🎉

Edited December 10 by Spiral Wizard

[BuddhistLover]

@Leo Gura I guess it will be best to keep things nice and tightly hinged. More philosophical peace of mind that way. 

[Bobby_2021]

2 hours ago, Raze said:

Like I said, they already normalized government spying and no knock warrants, imagine what they’ll do if the elite actually feel like the masses are a threat. 

The masses are a threat. Elites should be on their toes all the time. There is no way you could normalize what they are doing. 

It is the Elites that say that laws do not matter (for them). Now they get to see that it can go the other way too. 

Edited December 10 by Bobby_2021

[zazen]

Assassinating a CEO is an unjust act, done in the name of a just cause. Just like October 7th. Syria overthrowing Assad was for a just cause, done in a just way (apparently no deaths) that may have unjust consequences. Cause > conduct > consequence.

 Check out his review of Kaczyinski’s book:

 

Link: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4065667863?book_show_action=false

He’s what you get when you combine Greta Thunberg and extinction rebellion with MAHA anarcho-libertarianism on steroids. 

Edited December 10 by zazen

[vibv]

As understandable as it is, killing another human being out of frustration isn’t excusable and shouldn’t be normalized.

we truly still live in the dark ages

[PenguinPablo]

Obviously do not condone this... This is not the way.

But if it is true that United Healthcare has increased denials in order to profit (hence killing tons of sick people)

What kind of seeds are you planting?

Indeed based on the reaction I've seen on Reddit, people are so unhinged. 

Very surprised that so many people are celebrating it on this level.

 

[Leo Gura]

Problem is, for this to make any difference you'd have to kill a significant chunk of the capitalist elites, which is not gonna happen.

Killing a couple of Fortune 500 CEOs is not gonna solve the problems of Stage Orange. They are not gonna suddenly lower your prices.

These CEOs are part of a vast corrupt Orange system. And if you are the kind of person to assassinate them, you are not less corrupt than they are.

Edited December 10 by Leo Gura

[Frylock]

38 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Problem is, for this to make any difference you'd have to kill a significant chunk of the capitalist elites, which is not gonna happen.

I wouldn't be so sure that this didn't have an immediate effect.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5217617/blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-anthem

Almost immediately after this murder, Anthem reverses their anesthesia time limit decision. Of course, this could have been planned to be announced regardless due to public backlash, but the timing of it sure was conspicuous.

[lostingenosmaze]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Problem is, for this to make any difference you'd have to kill a significant chunk of the capitalist elites, which is not gonna happen.

What a fantasy, a cinematic one, even. Some filmaker's gonna pitch an action-thriller directly inspired off these events and I'll be watching that Day One 

Edited December 10 by lostingenosmaze

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Frylock said:

I wouldn't be so sure that this didn't have an immediate effect.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5217617/blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-anthem

Almost immediately after this murder, Anthem reverses their anesthesia time limit decision. Of course, this could have been planned to be announced regardless due to public backlash, but the timing of it sure was conspicuous.

They will change it for optics, and then a year later they will change it back and charge you even more when no one is looking.

Again, you're dealing with a system and a stage of development, not an evil person or company.

[TheAlchemist]

Looking at this from outside the US, it seems that this is a cathartic response coming from masses of people who have been fcked over by the insurance companies. It's probably very hard for anyone (including me) to fully relate who hasn't been in that situation themselves. 

Also, I think people are surprised and energized by recognizing how little they care about the death of a health insurance CEO. Maybe there is a conscious or unconscious recognition of the underlying systemic violence that has been killing people and causing suffering to countless people in the name of profits and growth.

In that context, if we recognize that systemic forms of violence do exist, they usually go under the radar, and that there are people who are responsible for such violence, then it is more understandable that people would have this kind of reaction. In 100-200 years, if the US healthcare system develops, this act might just seem ethically equivalent to someone killing a slave owner in the 1800's . 

If that systemic violence truly is so widespread and the rule of law is not capable of recognizing that form of violence and bringing justice, then this is what can happen, as the frustration brews enough. People will resort to beheadings and mass killing if necessary to bring a sense of justice, but it is ugly and likely no good changes will come quickly. It's more about a release of emotions and recognition of injustices, so maybe that can fuel some political changes in the long run. 

Personally, I have no strong feelings about this. The death of a CEO holds no special significance in my heart compared to anyone else who is murdered or killed any day of the week around the globe. But I also won't celebrate or rejoice in this, maybe because I haven't personally experienced the injustice of the US healthcare system. 

 

Edited December 10 by TheAlchemist

[Jodistrict]

The American medical system is broken.   I had plantar fascitis on my right foot.  I went to two podiatrists and they were worthless.  They gave me cortisone shots which only cover up the pain and do nothing to fix the real problem.  Furthermore, it actually causes more damage.  I did some research and found there was evidence that shockwave therapy can initiate the healing process.  I did the shockwave therapy in Mexico and it was the only thing that actually worked.   I did it in Mexico because it was cheaper and American insurance companies won’t pay for shockwave therapy.  The one thing that works – they won’t cover.   However, Biden recently uncovered a plan to have weight loss meds covered under Medicare.   That’s right, instead of addressing the food industry which is making everyone sick, pay for the pills which provides profits for Big Pharma.   Don’t actually cover anything that actually works.  Keep people sick to drive up profits.

Oh, and what is our brain dead government doing? 

https://x.com/HHSGov/status/1865803532537930120/photo/1

This is a recent  announcement from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

 

Just notice the connections:   Big Pharma, wokeism, reductionistic mindset finding solutions only in pills.   The entire system is corrupt.  The CEOs are just the tip of the iceburg.