CEO of United Health gunned down

[Frylock]

19 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

He did more than all the phony politicians to highlight one of the real issues in America – healthcare.   We just had an election and healthcare wasn’t even discussed.   That’s why I maintain that the wokeism nonsense is a deliberate ploy of the ruling class to divert voters attention from the real issues, which are economic.

You do make a fair point. The CEOs, corporations, and rich oligarchs are all incredibly corrupt and have always held society back, and yet politicians don't talk about it. At most, Democrats will say "Republicans want to make tax cuts for the rich, not you!" That doesn't really land well, as we've learned. The country may finally be ready for a left wing populist, but who knows.

Certainly, the majority of Americans regardless of political views feel the pain from our corrupt healthcare system, hence why this assassin has almost universally been viewed sympathetically as a hero.

[Frylock]

Double posted on accident.

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[Bobby_2021]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay,_Deny,_Defend

 

[Princess Arabia]

 

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[Princess Arabia]

 

[Princess Arabia]

Been on that street. Pretty busy street. People are always walking by and cabs and cars always on the move. Pretty early in the morning, so wasn't that busy.

[kray]

Look killing a human is an unconscious act and wrong, but this applies to everyone, including many of those who lost their lives due to scummy insurance practices, not just billionaires. And my issue, as with most Americans, is just how much importance we put on this murder, but not on the murders of your average American or a small grocery shop owner who was killed in a robbery. The fact that the NYPD shut down tunnels and bridges going in and out of manhattan for a period of time is just wild, like why does this guy get this kind of justice, but your average American doesn’t. Since when did the cops block off traffic and inconvenience thousands of people for a random Joe’s death? Where were the investigations and news coverage of the many patients who died due to denied claims? Whether the motive of the shooter is this or not is one thing, but we can all agree that this did in a unify Americans, and really showed the insane disconnect between the wealthy elite 1% and the other 99% of actual Americans. People are waking up to corporate greed and the unhealthy and unbalanced wealth gap in our country.

[Frylock]

9 minutes ago, kray said:

And my issue, as with most Americans, is just how much importance we put on this murder, but not on the murders of your average American or a small grocery shop owner who was killed in a robbery. The fact that the NYPD shut down tunnels and bridges going in and out of manhattan for a period of time is just wild, like why does this guy get this kind of justice, but your average American doesn’t. Since when did the cops block off traffic and inconvenience thousands of people for a random Joe’s death? Where were the investigations and news coverage of the many patients who died due to denied claims? 

The victim was a rich and powerful white man, that probably has some influence. But aside from that, how many premeditated, targeted murders happen out in the open like this in that area of NYC? I would assume not many. I think the gunman wanted this though, he wanted the sensationalism and spotlight. If it was behind closed doors in not such a populated place, and not caught on camera, it probably wouldn't get the same level of coverage.

[Princess Arabia]

They might have found his backpack. Not official.

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[kray]

11 minutes ago, Frylock said:

The victim was a rich and powerful white man, that probably has some influence. But aside from that, how many premeditated, targeted murders happen out in the open like this in that area of NYC? I would assume not many. I think the gunman wanted this though, he wanted the sensationalism and spotlight. If it was behind closed doors in not such a populated place, and not caught on camera, it probably wouldn't get the same level of coverage.

There have been a few shootings in Times Square like two three years ago. Also premeditated but was more gang related, but never got the same spotlight that this did. 

[Frylock]

Gang/drug related murders never get the same publicity because most average citizens aren't involved in illegal street crimes, and violence in those types of lifestyles is expected.

When it's someone with white collar power or a political figure, clearly the victim of a surprisingly well planned out and meticulous plot, it catches more attention.

If this was just a random act of violence, this guy would have already been caught. But he did his research and "one-upped" the authorities, at least for now. Sprinkle in a potential red herring or motive with the deny, defend, depose bullet casings, and there's going to be more intrigue.

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[whh2222]

Whatever empathy I am supposed to feel for this CEO, I feel more empathy for the lives lost due to his corrupt policies. 

[Princess Arabia]

 

[Princess Arabia]

I'm only following this case because last year i stayed at that same hotel the victim stayed at. (Marriot) You know how that goes, feels personal. I even stopped at the same Starbucks the killer went to. Saw Hoda Kotb from the Today Show that same morning I was there too and said hi, she was with her grandkids.

 

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[kray]

6 minutes ago, Frylock said:

Gang/drug related murders never get the same publicity because most average citizens aren't involved in illegal street crimes, and violence in those types of lifestyles is expected.

When it's someone with white collar power or a political figure, clearly the victim of a surprisingly well planned out and meticulous plot, it catches more attention.

If this was just a random act of violence, this guy would have already been caught. But he did his research and "one-upped" the authorities, at least for now. Sprinkle in a potential red herring or motive with the deny, defend, depose bullet casings, and there's going to be more intrigue.

Yea but regardless of the shooter’s motive is, I think the mainstream media is so disconnected from how the actual population feels. Like they are genuinely surprised that no one gives a fuck, like do these guys care this much when someone who is not a ceo dies?

[Loveeee]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It is a good example of holism. How the rich are not really immune from the consequences of their corruption.

Musk and Trump would be wise to learn that lesson as they go about their corruption spree.

I don't even understand how they're still alive 

[Raze]

I always wonder in these cases why they don’t dye their hair and flee to mexico 

[Princess Arabia]

19 minutes ago, Raze said:

I always wonder in these cases why they don’t dye their hair and flee to mexico 

Exactly why, because that's what's expected. First place authorities used to look.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, kray said:

Yea but regardless of the shooter’s motive is, I think the mainstream media is so disconnected from how the actual population feels. Like they are genuinely surprised that no one gives a fuck, like do these guys care this much when someone who is not a ceo dies?

You don't expect traffic to be stopped and FBI involved and news media to report every single murder now do you. One is happening every minute, so you have to be a bit more rational in that train of thinking. 

[Jodistrict]

12 hours ago, aurum said:

Your boy RFK teamed up with Trump, king of using wokeism as a diversion tactic.

Right,  the ruling class creates an issue that splits people into two sides and they fight over nonsense while their medical care claims are denied.   I'm not picking sides.  And neither is the ruling class.  They just want diversion and no discussion of the real power structure..