Is tolerance actually a thing?

[Rigel]

My main psych is mushrooms & I haven’t tried full on tripping many days in a row yet but based off my experience microdosing, there doesn’t seem to be tolerance build up. I can take a dose that rides on the threshold for a month straight & never experienced any diminishing of the effects.

Has anyone here tried macro dosing shrooms many days in a row? Do you experience tolerance? I gotta test that out.

[Rigel]

I tried micro dosing twice the same day as well. Same exact strength even on the same day.

[vibv]

Of course. Tolerance happens with any drug, it's just a matter of how fast its onset is and how quickly it fades again.

I took LSD 3 days in a row on a festival and I had to double my dose each day to have the same effects. Mushrooms are very similar, but that's for macrodoses. Microdoses may be different.

Edited December 5 by vibv

[Rigel]

Didn’t Leo mention that 5-Meo doesn’t build tolerance? Never tried it but how would that be different from mushrooms? Does genetics influence how people experience tolerance? Could it be rare but possible that some people don’t build tolerance on mushrooms? Guess I’ll have to test it out at some point. 

Edited December 5 by Rigel

[OBEler]

@Rigel it's easy: the higher the dose the bigger the tolerance.

Therefore with a micro dose you get a micro tolerance 

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, Rigel said:

Didn’t Leo mention that 5-Meo doesn’t build tolerance?

 

^ Correct

[Rigel]

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

@Rigel it's easy: the higher the dose the bigger the tolerance.

Therefore with a micro dose you get a micro tolerance 

Sometimes the simple answer wins. I still need to check first hand. Did you trip many days in a row on any chemical before?

[Rigel]

3 hours ago, vibv said:

Of course. Tolerance happens with any drug, it's just a matter of how fast its onset is and how quickly it fades again.

I took LSD 3 days in a row on a festival and I had to double my dose each day to have the same effects. Mushrooms are very similar, but that's for macrodoses. Microdoses may be different.

What was it like to trip for so long?

Edited December 5 by Rigel

[OBEler]

21 minutes ago, Rigel said:

Sometimes the simple answer wins. I still need to check first hand. Did you trip many days in a row on any chemical before?

Yes I have enough experience to tell you.

[Rigel]

1 hour ago, OBEler said:

Yes I have enough experience to tell you.

I was hoping you’d get into it a bit more? What happened? What chemical? What dose? What was your subjective experience? Any lesson? Any value in doing?

[theleelajoker]

Funny synchronicity. I wanted to open a thread on tolerance and boom - I find this

Re tolerance, I had a quite interesting and surprising experience.

After some months since my last big trip and 1x did an Ayahuasca ceremony + I took 1x Shrooms two weeks later.

Contrary to my expectation, my experience was super "weak" in both cases. Of course I was feeling sth both times, but no visuals, no visions, I was still very grounded in this reality in both cases. I know what super high feels from many trips before and I was far away from this.

• I know the shrooms and they were much stronger with approx same dose last time
• In case of the shrooms - OK I can understand that there is tolerance only two weeks after ayahuasca
• In case of the ayahuasca - other people were tripping a lot so the stuff was strong. I already had a large dose + I drank a second time with little effect.

Anyone has the experience of becoming more tolerant in general to psychedelics? Or any other ideas, similar experiences?

Edited December 6 by theleelajoker

[OBEler]

8 hours ago, Rigel said:

I was hoping you’d get into it a bit more? What happened? What chemical? What dose? What was your subjective experience? Any lesson? Any value in doing?

On LSD. The higher the dose the bigger the tolerance. One day 75 micro, next day 150 micro (same effects), third day 300 micro ( almost zero effects, just some visual distortions).

Lower the doses and you still get almost same effects (20 -30 micro on each day)

Edited December 6 by OBEler

[RightHand]

I use this tool to calculate my tolerance, It's not absolute science, but it works pretty well : 

https://codepen.io/cyberoxide/full/BaNarGd

Edited December 6 by RightHand

[OBEler]

6 minutes ago, RightHand said:

I use this tool to calculate my tolerance, It's not absolute science, but it works pretty well : 

https://codepen.io/cyberoxide/full/BaNarGd

That doesn't work for me, I used that. It's completely out of touch with reality this calculator.

Way too much tolerance calculation. Be careful!

[RightHand]

22 minutes ago, OBEler said:

That doesn't work for me, I used that. It's completely out of touch with reality this calculator.

Way too much tolerance calculation. Be careful!

Thanks for the feedback.