Fulfilling Sexual Fantasy through Lucid Dreaming?

[Oso]

Though I haven't been able to successfully lucid dream yet, I have come back to it again and again due to this idea. 

 

On one hand, it appears to offer the ability to experience any sexual occasion in any way you'd like, or something along those lines.

On the other hand, it seems to be an escape from genuine sexual experience and growth.

 

There are sexual experiences I can't fulfill in waking life, but at the same time, one of the things I really want at my younger age is to explore sexuality and learn through direct sexual experience. In other words, I want to learn about and have great sex through actually doing it. 

 

I cannot tell if taking on these desires through lucid dreams, which I have still yet to have success with, is a desire spawned out of ignorance and fear, or a genuine medium to explore all the sexual fantasies I have. 

I'd appreciate any feedback or thoughts. 

[Sugarcoat]

6 hours ago, Oso said:

There are sexual experiences I can't fulfill in waking life,

Why u say that?

[Schizophonia]

20 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Why u say that?

He likes a bit too much his cousin.

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

He likes a bit too much his cousin.

Haha you’re creative with your jokes

[Schizophonia]

13 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Haha you’re creative with your jokes

Thanks my milky alien.

I hesitated with getting fucked by a shemale but he can pay for that so it doesn’t work.

 

 

[Sugarcoat]

3 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Thanks my milky alien.

I hesitated with getting fucked by a shemale but he can pay for that so it doesn’t work.

 

 

We will see what op says the reason is…

[Oso]

4 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Why u say that?

Lol you guys are funny. I say that because of a few reasons. 

Firstly is sexual fantasies with fictional characters. That is something which is simply not actionable in waking life. Or so it appears. 

Secondly is with people who'd likely be very hard or impossible to sexually engage with, like celebrities, people of history, etc... 

 

Honestly, just having sex with anyone of desire. That doesn't even seem like a wise or possible decision to go after in waking life. 

[Sugarcoat]

8 minutes ago, Oso said:

Firstly is sexual fantasies with fictional characters. That is something which is simply not actionable in waking life. Or so it appears. 

Secondly is with people who'd likely be very hard or impossible to sexually engage with, like celebrities, people of history, etc... 

Okay I understand. Then go for the dreaming in those cases if you feel you can gain satisfaction from it, why not. Have fun

 

8 minutes ago, Oso said:

Honestly, just having sex with anyone of desire. That doesn't even seem like a wise or possible decision to go after in waking life. 

If you’re only attracted to people like those mentioned above then no but in other cases it could be possible. Do you have crazy standards or something?

Edited December 4 by Sugarcoat

[Oso]

37 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

If you’re only attracted to people like those mentioned above then no but in other cases it could be possible. Do you have crazy standards or something?

No, I would say I'm generally pretty open. Though, I do find my moral values are pretty high and have limited me in the past. It's a good thing for keeping me out of trouble but it's annoying when I'm in a more lusty state. 

 

However, I haven't had a ton of experience, so I can't be super sure about what I'm saying in this regard. 

[Javfly33]

@Oso isn´t easier to just jerk off while mentally fantasizing? Why you have to visually make it real in a dream? 

In the end both are fantasies/illusions.

Investing time in an illusion doesn´t make sense to me. Just jerk off and put it out of your mind

Edited December 4 by Javfly33

[Sugarcoat]

26 minutes ago, Oso said:

No, I would say I'm generally pretty open. Though, I do find my moral values are pretty high and have limited me in the past. It's a good thing for keeping me out of trouble but it's annoying when I'm in a more lusty state. 

 

However, I haven't had a ton of experience, so I can't be super sure about what I'm saying in this regard. 

Dw you’re not a hopeless case. I bet you could fulfill some of your sexual fantasies irl. Just needs a little work or you might meet someone spontaneously who knows. 

[Oso]

29 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

@Oso isn´t easier to just jerk off while mentally fantasizing? Why you have to visually make it real in a dream? 

In the end both are fantasies/illusions.

Investing time in an illusion doesn´t make sense to me. Just jerk off and put it out of your mind

That is a perfectly valid way, and yes masturbation can and does help, no doubt. Even so, I don't want to masturbate forever, and honestly I'd rather just let it go. But in it's place, albeit selfish, I would much rather prefer to have a sexual partner. 

Lucid dreaming appeared at such time and in such a way where it just feels like more attractive and advanced masturbation lol. 

It's attractive because there's not really any commitments to a real person, it can be with whomever, wherever, etc... 

 

But again, I'd prefer a consistent and genuine sexual partner/s in waking life. 

I'm just semi-confused on if I'm successfully walking towards that goal or not, hence I've been trying to lucid dream to fit this desire. 

[Oso]

11 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Dw you’re not a hopeless case. I bet you could fulfill some of your sexual fantasies irl. Just needs a little work or you might meet someone spontaneously who knows. 

Yes, a little work. That what is seems like when I reflect on it. Even still, I haven't really gotten far in successfully meeting someone in this regard. I met a few people, but there usually ends up being some crux which breaks it before anything actually goes down.

I understand this is healthy in it's own way, but it kinda sucks being impatient or lustful, even when I have had to cut it.

Each comes with valuable lessons though. 

 

Seeing that I'm not actually hopeless kinda scares me. The self-development I have to undertake to be with the women I really want shakes me up pretty good and brings up defensive patterns.

But I don't think I can die free of that growing regret and fear if I don't go for it. 

[Sugarcoat]

8 minutes ago, Oso said:

Yes, a little work. That what is seems like when I reflect on it. Even still, I haven't really gotten far in successfully meeting someone in this regard. I met a few people, but there usually ends up being some crux which breaks it before anything actually goes down.

I understand this is healthy in it's own way, but it kinda sucks being impatient or lustful, even when I have had to cut it.

Each comes with valuable lessons though. 

 

Seeing that I'm not actually hopeless kinda scares me. The self-development I have to undertake to be with the women I really want shakes me up pretty good and brings up defensive patterns.

But I don't think I can die free of that growing regret and fear if I don't go for it. 

If you do self development for your own sake too and not only to get women it probably won’t feel as miserable because you want to develop yourself irregardless of what women want. Then again self improvement isn’t always needed people can meet spontaneously through friend groups for example. But that mindset means leaving it up for fate to decide, and it doesn’t always happen in your way. 

Edited December 4 by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

2 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

We will see what op says the reason is…

It seems it’s a woman.

[Sugarcoat]

33 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It seems it’s a woman.

Don’t know why u say that

[Oso]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

If you do self development for your own sake too and not only to get women it probably won’t feel as miserable because you want to develop yourself irregardless of what women want. Then again self improvement isn’t always needed people can meet spontaneously through friend groups for example. But that mindset means leaving it up for fate to decide, and it doesn’t always happen in your way. 

Those are valid points. But yes, I agree to what you said. That mindset is heavily dependent on fate and relying on fate alone seems rather dangerous and ignorant, at least for me. 

Instead, meeting someone through fate seems more fitting to be a cherry on top of actively living life and putting in the work towards whatever it is your want to do. 

For example, the self development. Whatever you work on has tangible results naturally. Depending on what you do, this can increase or decrease your chances towards something, in this case, a sexual partner, girlfriend, etc... 

So, I guess I'm kinda rambling there. But, main point I'm clarifying on is that by taking the actions things tend to fall in place in a weird but natural way. A lack of action, which I have especially experienced here, leads to self induced suffering amongst other things. 

[Sandhu]

I had the same idea. But I never really tried lucid dreaming coz I wasn't sure it'd work and I was afraid that I might freak out. Don't think/worry too much. Try out new things and then see how things go. 

Edited December 4 by Sandhu

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Oso said:

Those are valid points. But yes, I agree to what you said. That mindset is heavily dependent on fate and relying on fate alone seems rather dangerous and ignorant, at least for me. 

Instead, meeting someone through fate seems more fitting to be a cherry on top of actively living life and putting in the work towards whatever it is your want to do. 

For example, the self development. Whatever you work on has tangible results naturally. Depending on what you do, this can increase or decrease your chances towards something, in this case, a sexual partner, girlfriend, etc... 

So, I guess I'm kinda rambling there. But, main point I'm clarifying on is that by taking the actions things tend to fall in place in a weird but natural way. A lack of action, which I have especially experienced here, leads to self induced suffering amongst other things. 

Yes good points👏🏻

[Schizophonia]

46 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Don’t know why u say that

The pp + kind of fantasies.