The Brain and the Meditation

[kavaris]

i think i should put this here, cause it kindve trails off into speaking about meditation, which implies consciousness and our spirit self. note, im not a sciency person, or expert on indian traditions, it just happens to coincide.

Sometimes when you are deeply focused on a task, or something, you can feel a literal pressure, or heightened sensation near the lowest edge of the Frontal Lobe (Prefrontal Cortex) or, what feels like its in your **olfactory lobe** behind the nose—or slightly above the point between the eyes (though its not literally in this lobe since its associated with smell) It just happens to activate nerves nearby (though i never understood the ajna chakra, as for me it would be right above the point between the eyes—but close enough i suppose). but again, thats when your deeply entranced with a task—but not necessarily a task that requires complex thinking, cause thats like... your WHOLE brains on fire, including the ajna, between the eyes, etc, etc..)

But when meditating, the temporal lobes are the gateway to the rest of the brain, particularly the Hippocampus. The Hippocampus is connected to the anterior nucleus of the thalamus, which is connected functionally and structurally w/ the hypothalamus (and epithalamus which houses the pineal gland). The thalamus is between the cerebral cortex and the midbrain. The epithalamus is located *behind* the thalamus.

From the point of view of the very top of the brain—looking down, you have the Cerebral Cortex, then Limbic System (hippocampus, and then amygdala—which is a couple inches deeper then the temples...) then theres some nerve fibers, then the part we already mentioned w/ the thalamus and whatknot. Obviously the last thing would be the brainstem, going top to bottom (medulla oblongata is part of the brainstem).

The Cerebellum is located behind the brainstem... And then, situated at the back of the brain is the Occipital Lobe, which is part of the Cerebral Cortex. And theres some minor details to all of this, but thats the basics (and all the names that i would recognize) When meditating, thats what you can feel. At some point "the brain" no longer exists, and your just as one—in one, being, one sensation, a feeling or an emotion.

 

Edited December 3 by kavaris

[kavaris]

For as long as we're anticipating the world around us, in the normal, traditional, within reasonable measures kindve way, it'll eventually/always lead to us doing something wrong, whether it be in realizing that we worked on something that wasnt enough, or that we are stopping ourselves after a long time after the fact, way too far into the future; Where we've set about a path. And in this path, we've been convinced that the path  takes 'x' amount of steps, or that kind of contemplation—but those are from a traditional standpoint. And we will allow ourselves to work for years before something either dawns on us, or literaly treats the situation as that *criticial section* that is being blocked because it naturally lead to a state where it had been programmed to be blocked. For that reason, its not enough for us to reivaluate our purpose based on the information or the assumptions that lead us to this point right now, to then presume that we make it align with whats foreseeably a better opportunity of some kind—thats a start, but its not going to work, because it follows the exact same cycle, and rules. And its likely a purpose that lives within a realm of laws and rules and insurmountable blocking mechanisms that will be self imposed in order to confront it in the first place. It will be like, imagining yourself in jail, for more time inside the jail cell itself, in order to spend less money out of jail. Theres too many things being anticipated in the same way, and until thats realized, we havent made  any progress in areas that matter or help in any imaginable way, and that means our story is built on a subject-predicate relationship intended to hold us back for eternity. You almost have to ask yourself, how many years you want to be held back, cause all destinations will block the road in some formation or another. They are themselves like, different types of mazes, each one where the archway is in another corridor, another place that has to play that out in reasonable terms to acquire it. Whats the zelda game that randomly generates different items (iuno if it does it for the layout of the dungeon too) but thats what its like. As a child, its more about inheriting and witnessing this effort towards paving the way for you. But now as an adult its getting bleaker and bleaker every second, and either your someone who hasnt yet taken the time to understand the full extent, and how deep it goes, acknowledged it in all forms from all roads that suggest seperate forms interacting, or you have been actively contending with these qualities, seeking the truth for what it is, compartmentalizing the compartments and categories, into more categories for the sake of catering to it in a realm that can quantify something thats like, so far from telling a story that caters to us... For a story that caters to the world primarily, holds us back, assumes us as a secondary character, in a story where only one main protagonist should exist. The reader at this point would say, "Why has the protagonist taken a backseat to let the world unfold, why does it live in such contrast?..." For the world has become epitomized in some sense, the moment it requires doing this*to*get this*, it is another toll, another fate of death, another merry go around, another confession at the yggdrasil tree, how we wish we wouldve looked deeper at the root causing it, wishing we wouldve seen this little hair truth earlier.... Thats what we're dealing with. Thats why we will kneel at the same tree, forever, is my claim. if we dont think in a drastic way right now, we'll be forever regreting that only *one seed* made it into our lives, only the tree we grew, was the tree of spontaneity, that existed for us... Even though we grew two trees in the beginning, even though our entire life was splintered into finite form, we only ever looked at what was there (what there even was to look at..) this, "side thats mine", was mine..., and over there, "thats a tree that either existed already, or that was grown by someone else"... What happened to realizing our own family? Its a thin line between individual, family, forest and world—its just one *switch* to it becoming two trees again, if we are brave enough to revisit, remember the place they we first awoken in the forest, naked and trying to articulate ourselves. Trying to point at things and identify with them (or whatever it was we were doing... like being told we identified with them) That is to illustrate, how far we are from understanding the severity of whats about to unfold, and the regret we will have, seeing as we are carrying the weight of so many qualities, without knowing how to carry them to the center, thus they drift in separate directions, misplaced. We are to die in our regrets soon, if we havent yet decided to make a b line towards the center, or to let go of all qualities to begin with. Its never too early or too late, especially if you are humility, lost within humilities world of rememberances.

Edited December 4 by kavaris

[kavaris]

On 12/3/2024 at 7:50 AM, kavaris said:

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The Cerebellum is located behind the brainstem... And then, situated at the back of the brain is the Occipital Lobe, which is part of the Cerebral Cortex. And theres some minor details to all of this, but thats the basics (and all the names that i would recognize) When meditating, thats what you can feel. At some point "the brain" no longer exists, and your just as one—in one, being, one sensation, a feeling or an emotion.

 

Ideally, that is what to be aiming towards, this vague sense of it all becoming one. and just as leo himself has pointed out (episode on power of not knowing—it is mentioned in..) and what coincides with, that by which we are still keeping out three eyes on: God, truth & Survival...

Rght? i think thats what the three "aims" are. And then, we might even further stratify them, that is when our brain wonders from the center, which *paths* are the ideal path, and which (from your own experience) you feel, or know undoubtedly, is the wrong direction. That is, its hard to *point* towards something, if its almost like a transient, illusive, negative space. Only those who have the experience of going there have it defined, have it deeply rooted in their daily regimen. And so, there needs to be a way to get introduced to it, and to also continuing exploring it after the fact, such that its not like, associated with only negatives and negative spaces. Actually, it only works if its discovered through some sortve positive lens, with *good* alocasia leaves in the same spectrum of thought, layers of reasons that make it make sense. If it doesnt make sense yet, then it may be that one has to go back, and try internalizing things from some angle or point of view that isnt the one you're currently in or contemplating.

 

p.s. in the beginning (i recall) having this feeling that like... i couldnt connect the two — meditating and actively participating in the physical world. And i can tell you that the line  separating those in your mind becomes blurred, as well as like... erased completely, and theres just one, spiritual uh... thing, that you are living in thereafter.

Edited December 6 by kavaris

[Inliytened1]

On 12/3/2024 at 6:50 AM, kavaris said:

i think i should put this here, cause it kindve trails off into speaking about meditation, which implies consciousness and our spirit self. note, im not a sciency person, or expert on indian traditions, it just happens to coincide.

Sometimes when you are deeply focused on a task, or something, you can feel a literal pressure, or heightened sensation near the lowest edge of the Frontal Lobe (Prefrontal Cortex) or, what feels like its in your **olfactory lobe** behind the nose—or slightly above the point between the eyes (though its not literally in this lobe since its associated with smell) It just happens to activate nerves nearby (though i never understood the ajna chakra, as for me it would be right above the point between the eyes—but close enough i suppose). but again, thats when your deeply entranced with a task—but not necessarily a task that requires complex thinking, cause thats like... your WHOLE brains on fire, including the ajna, between the eyes, etc, etc..)

But when meditating, the temporal lobes are the gateway to the rest of the brain, particularly the Hippocampus. The Hippocampus is connected to the anterior nucleus of the thalamus, which is connected functionally and structurally w/ the hypothalamus (and epithalamus which houses the pineal gland). The thalamus is between the cerebral cortex and the midbrain. The epithalamus is located *behind* the thalamus.

From the point of view of the very top of the brain—looking down, you have the Cerebral Cortex, then Limbic System (hippocampus, and then amygdala—which is a couple inches deeper then the temples...) then theres some nerve fibers, then the part we already mentioned w/ the thalamus and whatknot. Obviously the last thing would be the brainstem, going top to bottom (medulla oblongata is part of the brainstem).

The Cerebellum is located behind the brainstem... And then, situated at the back of the brain is the Occipital Lobe, which is part of the Cerebral Cortex. And theres some minor details to all of this, but thats the basics (and all the names that i would recognize) When meditating, thats what you can feel. At some point "the brain" no longer exists, and your just as one—in one, being, one sensation, a feeling or an emotion.

 

There is no brain man! All of that is part of the dream. Exactly what you said at the end. So why all the fuss?  If you shift your consciousness are you aware of these sensations in your brain? No!  You need to sit there and deconstruct the brain with your consciousness while meditating.  Perform self inquiry and it will do just that.

Edited December 6 by Inliytened1

[UnbornTao]

Can you summarize your point? What are you asking or trying to get across?

Edited December 6 by UnbornTao