The Miracle of Life

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

Yes it here for us to practice physical Death, be Aware while in deep sleep then You master physical death...

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

 

How do you know that? We are talking in a level of concepts very slippery, but I think that I get what you mean. Me, as many others, I have the idea or feeling that only me, and no other in the world have the key of enlightenment. I think that this is a mental strategy that happens to isolate your mind of anything to be able to open it really, then I have the compulsion of talk and talk, to clarify myself, to go deeper, avoid the mistakes .  Why all the masters are so weird? Look sadhguru, why he talks so much about supernatural things? That's seems histories. The only person that I read a bit and seem to me that has the key of enlightenment is David hawkings, but then he say a brunch of stupid things. It's difficult to find any good pointer, masters are not real, I see falsehood in all of them, all are demons who lies 🤣

 

Edited December 2 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

51 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

@Schizophonia What if the illusion is the 'waking' state? 

Exactly, conciousness, the experience, is an illusion, the time, the movement, all that is happening, but as an hologram if you place yourself in the absolute. What you always say is that you want to finish the illusion and place for ever yourself in the absolute. What means this? If the illusion is an illusion, then you already are placed for ever in the absolute, that's the thing to realize I think. Because we know that the immersion in the relative could be quite challenging, saying it soft. Really I think that the relative is for ever, but who knows those things?

Edited December 2 by Breakingthewall

[Javfly33]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

What you always say is that you want to finish the illusion and place for ever yourself in the absolute. What means this? If the illusion is an illusion, then you already are placed for ever in the absolute, that's the thing to realize I think. Because we know that the immersion in the relative could be quite challenging, saying it soft. Really I think that the relative is for ever, but who knows those things?

Definetely, my main focus is liberation of the being, doesn´t matter if is with an illusion or without it.

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then you already are placed for ever in the absolute

You know Rikers Island prison? Is in the middle of New York, only a 4-5 KM from Astoria, a rich cool neighbourhood in Queens. Manhattan itself is not far away neither.

Theorically Rikers Island prisoners are In New York, but since they can not open the door, it does not feel like New York. So details do matter.

You could be placed in the absolute, but if you only know relative what does it matter? You have to open the door, if not does not feel like New York. 

[Breakingthewall]

15 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

You could be placed in the absolute, but if you only know relatieicve what does it matter? You have to open the door, if not does not feel like New York. 

Yes of course, what I meant is that if it's possible to stop being relative and be just absolute for ever as you say. The terms for ever, another life, etc , are very confusing, because without the relative there is not "happening", then as you use to say, the experience dissapear. Would you like that? Why? It's better existing that don't exist I think , or maybe it's my attachment 

Edited December 2 by Breakingthewall