The Miracle of Life

[Razard86]

Many people on this forum are still stuck on the realm of appearance and on the belief that something exists. You were raised to believe you are something, you were raised to believe that something is more important than nothing. You would say I will not work for nothing, and you are afraid of losing something, and ultimately scare to lose everything you have, what you call life.

But many people would ask what is nothing? Nothing is the absence of all qualia/qualities, because a quality is a something. Now I am going to give you an exercise so you can see Nothing in action. Go stand in front of a mirror. First smile in the mirror, now stop smiling. Notice that the smile was there...and then it disappeared. Now smile again. Notice you are controlling the appearance of the smile. When you stop smiling your smile disappeared. Now let's do this exercise. Close your eyes and imagine yourself smiling and then not smiling. Do this over and over. Do this until you realize....that change is a magic trick. It's no different than flipbook animation. 

All appearance is spawning out of nowhere right in front of you. Humanity should have realized this a long time ago the moment they invented photography. Now understand what it means to be unlimited. You cannot put a limit on a Mind, on nothing. Also you might ask, but how do I imagine nothing? Easy think of Deep Sleep. But when that happened I was gone until I woke up!!! Exactly....just like the first memory you have of your life!!!

 

Edited December 1 by Razard86

[mrroboto]

agreed ... everything we are seeing is pure consciousness... so many things are at play to ensure that what we are seeing and experiencing doesn't blip or else we'd go bonkers lol.

sorta like a computer freezing. everything is consciousness. whatever we as consciousness see is what is pushed out of us.

 

 

 

[Razard86]

3 hours ago, mrroboto said:

agreed ... everything we are seeing is pure consciousness... so many things are at play to ensure that what we are seeing and experiencing doesn't blip or else we'd go bonkers lol.

sorta like a computer freezing. everything is consciousness. whatever we as consciousness see is what is pushed out of us.

 

 

 

I hear ya but what I'm saying is we are phasing in and out of existence at infinite speeds, all movement is a replacement of an appearance with either something or nothing. Its a disappearance act. Look at this flipbook animation to get an example. Its not a perfect example but it can point to what I am saying.

 

[Hojo]

@Razard86 I have experienced this on weed and alcohol. It felt like reality was something taking a picture the picture developing and then throwing it onto a pile very fast.

Edited December 2 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

It is indeed a miracle. When I see myself in a picture, it makes me wonder how am I here and there at the same time even though it's only a pic there. My favorite words, "the clues are everywhere".

[Breakingthewall]

Reality does not come from nothing, it is infinite being. Infinity implies that it has no beginning or end, therefore it does not begin, it is.

Consciousness has a beginning and an end, but the interval between end and beginning is outside of time, so there is always consciousness in the timeline, as we use "always" as a temporal concept.

Deep sleep is not nothingness, it is the infinite unmanifested being. Consciousness is the manifestation of infinite being. Enlightenment is realizing that you are the infinite being, beyond any manifestation. All those who say: "reality is consciousness", have not understood.

Understanding is not something intellectual, it is the opening to reality. When you understand that you cannot traspass a wall walking towards it, it is not an intellectual understanding, it is an opening to a reality. The understanding of the total being is the same, it is opening yourself to it beyond what is manifest. Understanding that deep sleep is absolute being is be open to the nature of reality 

Edited December 2 by Breakingthewall

[emil1234]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

Understanding is not something intellectual, it is the opening to reality. When you understand that you cannot traspass a wall walking towards it, it is not an intellectual understanding, it is an opening to a reality. The understanding of the total being is the same, it is opening yourself to it beyond what is manifest. Understanding that deep sleep is absolute being is be open to the nature of reality 

at this point i dont really believe in deep sleep. multiple times have i awoken seemingly from a deep sleep, only to moments later specifically remember going from dreaming state to waking state.

forgotten dreams mimic deep sleep

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, emil1234 said:

at this point i dont really believe in deep sleep. multiple times have i awoken seemingly from a deep sleep, only to moments later specifically remember going from dreaming state to waking state.

forgotten dreams mimic deep sleep

Deep sleep, or anesthesia means no conciousness, the interruption of consciousness. If consciousness is interrupted, time is interrupted. What is reality without self-awareness? absolute potential. If the potential is absolute, it is absolutely certain that consciousness will re-emerge. What does "will come back" mean when there is no time? "It will come back" implies the future, but if there is no time, when it "will come back"? now, infinitely. That doesn't mean that reality is conciousness, means that reality, the infinite depth, implies conciousness, it's different 

 

[emil1234]

5 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

If the potential is absolute, it is absolutely certain that consciousness will re-emerge. What does "will come back" mean when there is no time? "It will come back" implies the future, but if there is no time, when it "will come back"? now, infinitely. That doesn't mean that reality is conciousness, means that reality, the infinite depth, implies conciousness, it's different 

 

beautiful, absolutley agree with this. eternity equals consciousness 

[Schizophonia]

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Deep sleep, or anesthesia means no conciousness, the interruption of consciousness.

 

It's an illusion ; You imagine "falling asleep" in the "evening" and then "waking up" in the "morning". There is no interruption of consciousness.

[Sugarcoat]

Everyone in this forum is speaking from a place of somethingness and so am I . They couldn’t even imagine how it is to be in moments so disconnected from yourself it’s like nothing exist, not even yourself. And to walk around in “barely something-ness”. I’m not making sense here, and that’s okay. Nobody understands what I’m saying. But basically your experience of reality and yourself, it’s all in the brain, which produces your mind. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

It's an illusion ; You imagine "falling asleep" in the "evening" and then "waking up" in the "morning". There is no interruption of consciousness.

There is reality out of consciousness, thinking that reality is conciousness is a mistake. Conciousness is in the reality, but reality is not conciousness, that's the Leo's mistake, that could make you psychotic. You can feel the absolute reality, the immensity. It's the infinite potential, but it exists out of the conciousness, the conciousness is just a bubble that happens in it, and we identify ourselves with that bubble, with the conciousness, but it's flat. Hidden, behind the conciousness, the absolute is. It's in another dimension, hidden in your heart, all the infinity, the absolute. Has no color, no dimension, it's nothing but it's everything. Is nothing that you could name, define, think, perceive. It's not perception, is openess. The absolute is not "something", it's absolutely impossible to talk, but saying it's nothing is nonsense, it's everything. 

Edited December 2 by Breakingthewall

[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

It's an illusion ; You imagine "falling asleep" in the "evening" and then "waking up" in the "morning". There is no interruption of consciousness.

It is possible to be fully Aware while in deep sleep, if this is what You mean by "Consciousness", of course the other meaning of Consciousness is the same as Brahman, that is always going on and always has, but for us with bodies and minds, trapped in a Karmic soup, we can be Aware enough in Deep Sleep too, Yoga NIdra is about this, it creates a constant state of Ease within the system, so that one is almost like in a Deep Sleep state but fully aware.. and its not imagination, that word is way overused here, same with dream...

[Breakingthewall]

From an absolute point of view, reality is only appearance, the individual is an illusion. The self must disappear and you must merge with the total. It is a difficult movement, of great dedication. It is truly opening your heart without reservations. For me it is very difficult, I am very attached to the mundane, but being able to do it at some point, or being as close to it as possible is the only thing that brings sanity to existence. The other option is madness.

 

[Razard86]

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

It is possible to be fully Aware while in deep sleep, if this is what You mean by "Consciousness", of course the other meaning of Consciousness is the same as Brahman, that is always going on and always has, but for us with bodies and minds, trapped in a Karmic soup, we can be Aware enough in Deep Sleep too, Yoga NIdra is about this, it creates a constant state of Ease within the system, so that one is almost like in a Deep Sleep state but fully aware.. and its not imagination, that word is way overused here, same with dream...

If you are fully Conscious during deep sleep then its not Deep Sleep. True Deep Sleep is a momentary loss of Awareness. If you are aware in Deep Sleep, then you can call it Shallow Sleep lol.

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

It is possible to be fully Aware while in deep sleep, if this is what You mean by "Consciousness", of course the other meaning of Consciousness is the same as Brahman, that is always going on and always has, but for us with bodies and minds, trapped in a Karmic soup, we can be Aware enough in Deep Sleep too, Yoga NIdra is about this, it creates a constant state of Ease within the system, so that one is almost like in a Deep Sleep state but fully aware.. and its not imagination, that word is way overused here, same with dream...

Yes it's possible to be conscious in deep sleep, just that In deep sleep there is no time, it's just absolute. The absolute is precisely deep sleep, out of the time. 

[Ishanga]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Yes it's possible to be conscious in deep sleep, just that In deep sleep there is no time, it's just absolute. The absolute is precisely deep sleep, out of the time. 

Yes it here for us to practice physical Death, be Aware while in deep sleep then You master physical death...

[Breakingthewall]

7 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes it here for us to practice physical Death, be Aware while in deep sleep then You master physical death...

Exactly and precisely. If you can be totally concious in deep sleep, you have mastered death. That is real enlightenment, and no one here have achieved it. I don't claim that I did, I claim that I know what it is, I could immerse is some punctual moment, enough to understand how works the thing. The openess to the absolute is the conquer of death. Not small thing  . It's not a game, is the real thing, the absolute, absolute open yourself to the totality . It's the best option possible. Any other option could be tempting, but is less. The absolute is everything 

[Schizophonia]

18 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

If you are fully Conscious during deep sleep then its not Deep Sleep. True Deep Sleep is a momentary loss of Awareness. If you are aware in Deep Sleep, then you can call it Shallow Sleep lol.

Deep sleep is an imaginary concept.

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Schizophonia said:

It's an illusion ; You imagine "falling asleep" in the "evening" and then "waking up" in the "morning". There is no interruption of consciousness.

@Schizophonia What if the illusion is the 'waking' state?