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Sadhguru admits is possible to exist without breathing

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9 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's precisely why I didn't use the term genetic.  Because genetics is still within fhe dream and is content. But the dreamer is what actually imagines the genetic component itself.

For sure, but as I mentioned in my post right before this one, I think the mechanisms for all these highly advanced phenomena exist within the dream as well. So it'd almost make more sense to consider it a form of science rather than magic. Just that it's a highly esoteric form of science. And when you get down to the raw level, it is also truly just all consciousness. So it's kind of a case of both being true at once in my mind. With its contradictory nature being possible simply because God deems it so.

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3 minutes ago, What Am I said:

For sure, but as I mentioned in my post right before this one, I think the mechanisms for all these highly advanced phenomena exist within the dream as well. So it'd almost make more sense to consider it a form of science rather than magic. Just that it's a highly esoteric form of science. And when you get down to the raw level, it is also truly just all consciousness. So it's kind of a case of both being true at once in my mind.

At the end of the day it's all One.  We just like to draw a bunch of imaginary lines because it puts stuff "behind the scenes" and makes it appear more enticing.  Ultimately everything in reality is right before you.  There's absolutely no mystery.  But that would be absolutely boring - besides shocking.  We'd much rather create a backstory.  Otherwise you have nothing.  And no one seems to like to sit with that.

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16 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Is not triggering to me, but when you comment 5 times in every one of my posts it starts to become disrespectful.

Also coming from the fact that all that I post does not come from bullshit, you don´t have any idea the work I have been putting the last 3 years on sadhana. 

That´s why I said is childish behaviour. Because you are a child and you think the world is just the small bubble you have in your mind. 

Where did I comment 5 times on your post? Seems like a lie.

I don’t even know what Sadhana is.

Anyhow here’s a fun story. Yesterday was taking a walk with the dog. All of a sudden the Kundalini was acting up. Couldn’t catch my Prana. Was it the root chakra? I investigated. I asked the barista for a chai latte. I asked her also what should i do about my Kundalini acting up and about my Prana drama. She said do more yoga. Asanas and Krya. I said dear lord i need this Sat Chit Anada. So i did the Shiva Shakti. And you know what’s the moral of the story?

It wasn’t even the root Chakra it was the Heart chakra. Hahahha Maya fooled me once again.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

At the end of the day it's all One.  We just like to draw a bunch of imaginary lines because it puts stuff "behind the scenes" and makes it appear more enticing.  Ultimately everything in reality is right before you.  There's absolutely no mystery.  But that would be absolutely boring - besides shocking.  We'd much rather create a backstory.  Otherwise you have nothing.  And no one seems to like to sit with that.

Yeah agreed, when you get right down to it, this is what I believe as well.

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17 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Where did I comment 5 times on your post? Seems like a lie.

I don’t even know what Sadhana is.

Anyhow here’s a fun story. Yesterday was taking a walk with the dog. All of a sudden the Kundalini was acting up. Couldn’t catch my Prana. Was it the root chakra? I investigated. I asked the barista for a chai latte. I asked her also what should i do about my Kundalini acting up and about my Prana drama. She said do more yoga. Asanas and Krya. I said dear lord i need this Sat Chit Anada. So i did the Shiva Shakti. And you know what’s the moral of the story?

It wasn’t even the root Chakra it was the Heart chakra. Hahahha Maya fooled me once again.

 

 

 

 

So expect a full kundalini awakening shortly.  I'd say in the next few years.  This stuff has tickled your fancy otherwise you wouldn't be so active.  The heart Chakra may not tell you so, but I know 😀


 

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2 minutes ago, What Am I said:

@PurpleTree What would you say are your most profound insights?

 Insights seemingly appear almost everyday. Most are not very important. And about beliefs and such. Or trying to untangle from beliefs.

I mean on psychedelics "experienced" so much weird stuff (mostly visions) jesus, hindu, space, hell, god, enlightenment etc. stuff but it’s hard to grasp so i don’t know how important it is.

Getting addicted to nonduality talks it resonated that there’s no one and no free will/doer. But i also don’t know if that’s important. If there’s no one how can anything be important? Important to whom? How can anything be more important than anything else if let’s say all is kind of one.


 

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57 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

There’s nobody who can levitate smh.

But Leo can turn into a lizard :ph34r:


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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8 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

 Insights seemingly appear almost everyday. Most are not very important. And about beliefs and such. Or trying to untangle from beliefs.

I mean on psychedelics "experienced" so much weird stuff (mostly visions) jesus, hindu, space, hell, god, enlightenment etc. stuff but it’s hard to grasp so i don’t know how important it is.

Getting addicted to nonduality talks it resonated that there’s no one and no free will/doer. But i also don’t know if that’s important. If there’s no one how can anything be important? Important to whom? How can anything be more important than anything else if let’s say all is kind of one.

Nice, not bad. I was just trying to figure out what compelled you to post on the forum over 5,000 times, but it does sound like you at least have an interest in reality, even if you're currently convinced it's a pretty shallow reality.

Did the hyperdimensional nature of your psychedelic trips ever make you question whether you may be witnessing something beyond just an experience occurring in your brain? Experiences of that type are so unbelievably intense, it can sometimes be a doorway into more uncommon beliefs.

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11 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Nice, not bad. I was just trying to figure out what compelled you to post on the forum over 5,000 times, but it does sound like you at least have a interest in reality, even if you're currently convinced it's a pretty shallow reality.

Did the hyperdimensional nature of your psychedelic trips ever make you question whether you may be witnessing something beyond just an experience occurring in your brain? Experiences of that type are so unbelievably intense, it can sometimes be a doorway into more uncommon beliefs.

I never said it’s in the brain. Even science says we are made up of mostly space seemingly. In atoms between the nucleus and electrons the way I understand it. ^ Although that’s Also just a story.

I just said it’s unknowable what’s going on, to me anyway. I feel like because it’s unknowable "people" want to make up fairy tales because the unknown is not acceptable for the ego.

19 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

So expect a full kundalini awakening shortly.  I'd say in the next few years.  This stuff has tickled your fancy otherwise you wouldn't be so active.  The heart Chakra may not tell you so, but I know 😀

Gosh in a few years? But that’s never coming if there’s no next and no time 🥲

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1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

There’s nobody who can levitate smh.

I didn't think it was possible to view yourself from above your own head either one time. But reality surprises you.


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Just now, Carl-Richard said:

I didn't think it was possible to view yourself from above your own head either one time. But reality surprises you.

I’ve actually had a bunch of levitation experiences. Mostly during sleep paralysis. Still don’t believe there are people who can physically levitate while being filmed.

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4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I never said it’s in the brain. Even science says we are made up of mostly space seemingly. In atoms between the nucleus and electrons the way I understand it. ^ Although that’s Also just a story.

I just said it’s unknowable what’s going on, to me anyway. I feel like because it’s unknowable "people" want to make up fairy tales because the unknown is not acceptable for the ego.

I can see what you're saying, in the sense that mysterious phenomena such as higher states of consciousness are fertile ground for people to make up their own mythologies around their experiences. I'm sure it happens all the time, and I'm sure their assumptions are often inaccurate. I guess I can't pretend to be excluded from this affliction either.

Just now, PurpleTree said:

What’s your most profound insights?

My most profound insights, which were induced from direct experience via psychedelics and meditation, fall in line with those from all the consciousness-based traditions. On a breakthrough dose of 5-MeO-DMT, you have an ego death and are transported to a blinding hyperdimensional white light where it's experienced that you're both everything and nothing, and the singular omnipresent being in all of existence.

I would call that the most profound, but there are plenty of others that are of a lower order. I'm of the opinion that the entities and dimensions experienced on a DMT breakthrough have an independent existence. An obscene amount of knowledge is seemingly crammed into your mind when in those states, but similar to a dream, it's as if it's difficult to retain it upon returning to ordinary bodily existence.

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2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I’ve actually had a bunch of levitation experiences. Mostly during sleep paralysis. Still don’t believe there are people who can physically levitate while being filmed.

But if you saw it on film, would you believe it?


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2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

But if you saw it on film, would you believe it?

No.

7 minutes ago, What Am I said:

I can see what you're saying, in the sense that mysterious phenomena such as higher states of consciousness are fertile ground for people to make up their own mythologies around their experiences. I'm sure it happens all the time, and I'm sure their assumptions are often inaccurate. I guess I can't pretend to be excluded from this affliction either.

My most profound insights, which were induced from direct experience via psychedelics and meditation, fall in line with those from all the consciousness-based traditions. On a breakthrough dose of 5-MeO-DMT, you have an ego death and are transported to a blinding hyperdimensional white light where it's experienced that you're both everything and nothing, and the singular omnipresent being in all of existence.

I would call that the most profound, but there are plenty of others that are of a lower order. I'm of the opinion that the entities and dimensions experienced on a DMT breakthrough have an independent existence. An obscene amount of knowledge is seemingly crammed into your mind when in those states, but similar to a dream, it's as if it's difficult to retain it upon returning to ordinary bodily existence.

Yea that’s why "I" seemingly get more from being addicted to nondual nonsense and inquiry. Psychedelics are amazing (also very scary) like a firework but also very confusing and ephemeral. Also since my last trip i’m very hesitant to trip again unfortunately. But it will come again eventually inshalla.

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2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Sadhuru to me...he may be awakened but he has too much Orange.  He's too much the entertainer which will diminish the quality of his work.  Hence he is OK with a bunch of newbies believing in his words.  Leo is far superior as a teacher because he didn't give in to the temptations of Orange. 

From what I understand he does this on purpose. I'm not sure if You know Sadhguru's story, but in his last incarnation he was very anti social, sort of a Mad Man Enlightened Guru, the general society did not like him but he had many followers, his whole purpose, which is Sadhguru's too, was to create the Dylanalinga Temple, he failed in his previous incarnation, so this time around as Jaggi Vasudev he toned it down and made sure the social situation was set up right for the temple to be build and it was, he was supposed to die when that was completed but he experimented to try to see if he could recreate his broken body, his energy body was almost destroyed, since then he's made sure to be more sociable, and accepted by the majority...can share links to videos that describe the whole process if You like...


Karma Means "Life is my Making", I am 100% responsible for my Inner Experience. -Sadhguru..."I don''t want Your Dreams to come True, I want something to come true for You beyond anything You could dream of!!" - Sadhguru

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

From what I understand he does this on purpose. I'm not sure if You know Sadhguru's story, but in his last incarnation he was very anti social, sort of a Mad Man Enlightened Guru, the general society did not like him but he had many followers, his whole purpose, which is Sadhguru's too, was to create the Dylanalinga Temple, he failed in his previous incarnation, so this time around as Jaggi Vasudev he toned it down and made sure the social situation was set up right for the temple to be build and it was, he was supposed to die when that was completed but he experimented to try to see if he could recreate his broken body, his energy body was almost destroyed, since then he's made sure to be more sociable, and accepted by the majority...can share links to videos that describe the whole process if You like...

Thank you for the context - no i did not look that deep into him.  However seems like a lot of attention grabbing if you ask me. In my last incarnation I watched you tube and played God of War.  I didn't need followers for that.

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40 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Yea that’s why "I" seemingly get more from being addicted to nondual nonsense and inquiry. Psychedelics are amazing (also very scary) like a firework but also very confusing and ephemeral. Also since my last trip i’m very hesitant to trip again unfortunately. But it will come again eventually inshalla.

If you do use psychedelics again, try getting your hands on 5-MeO-DMT. Despite it producing the most intense effects, it's also often the least scary, especially at sub-breakthrough doses. This particular psychedelic has way less of a propensity to produce that terrifying "evil" effect that they're sometimes known for. Rather, it's just raw intensity.

As a confidence booster, it could also be wise to have a trip killer on hand, like a small dose of a benzodiazepine.

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4 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

I feel like there’s just a lot of horse crap in spirituality and religion. And it’s not really helping anyone, it’s just confusing and keeping people trapped. Although maybe there isn’t even anyone who could be trapped.

Yea i know he often said that. I think he didn’t say it during covid hehe but it’s fine.

Why do you think leo emphasizes opening your mind. Because you saying its not true makes it not true. It a simulation based around you. When you open your mind you have no idea what can and can't happen. The simulation will see what you are doing as its creating reality around you. God can't read your thought but it can read your body language and your body vibrations. It knows what human do and think by looking at them and feeling them.

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