Sadhguru admits is possible to exist without breathing

[gettoefl]

4 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes am aware of it.. doesn't  diminish his work and these investigations into Yogic science and benefits from it!

I thoroughly investigate all I am interested in and research into..

Yes agree with you. He did advance yogic science in a big way

[Breakingthewall]

that yogis can do amazing things with control of their body is a fact, but this thread is about sadhguru saying that a guy can live without rebreathing. It doesn't say you can hold your breath for 20 minutes, it says you can live without breathing, and that is impossible.

[Hojo]

@Breakingthewall There are no lungs. Its just an energy source simulating breathing going up and down. Breathing is a simulation.

Edited Sunday at 04:35 PM by Hojo

[Javfly33]

5 hours ago, Ishanga said:

@Javfly33 

The Non Dualist here will say this is all gibberish, not needed, too much work, everything is just appearance bla bla bla, but they don't see it or realize it..

@Ishanga Indeed, just yesterday a moderator said to me that I was doing 'stretching and breathing exercises' 😂

I think that is the main problem. They see people do Asanas and they just think you align your body in those ways to calm yourself or to exercise the body.

They do not understand an Asana when you master it is like an instant click for consciousness, a single Asana like Nadi vibhajan has given me extreme levels of Bliss and pure infinite perception, over and over.

But most importantly they do not know until I firstly understood what Nadi Vibhajan is, it took me almost 2 years of practice almost each day.

I probably did Nadi vibhajan more than 1400-1500 times before for the first time I actually did it correctly. 😂  

Now lately I am doing Surya Kriya, and since I already have a certain platform of understanding, the Asanas already are starting to open up big things, but if I had started Surya Kriya 3 years ago, before any previous Yoga sadhana, I would just think is like a series of stretching or calming exercises.

An apparent Kriya such as Surya Kriya is incredibly sophisticated, every detail of it is carefully put in place for a reason, nothing is random, but from the outside it might look like you are just simply stretching and oxygenating your body. Things are not what they seem. 

4 hours ago, Davino said:

@Javfly33 , when it is truly recommended to let go into kevala kumbhaka, the breathless states of Consciousness. It so happens that suddenly one realizes breathing hasn't been happening, for quite some time and no need for it to begin again, one is, breathing then returns of its own accord or by conscious will.

Yeap, seems you are putting the work 👏 

Edited Sunday at 05:58 PM by Javfly33

[Someone here]

Bro life is not a video game .

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

@Ishanga Indeed, just yesterday a moderator said to me that I was doing 'stretching and breathing exercises' 😂

I think that is the main problem. They see people do Asanas and they just think you align your body in those ways to calm yourself or to exercise the body.

They do not understand an Asana when you master it is like an instant click for consciousness, a single Asana like Nadi vibhajan has given me extreme levels of Bliss and pure infinite perception, over and over.

But most importantly they do not know until I firstly understood what Nadi Vibhajan is, it took me almost 2 years of practice almost each day.

I probably did Nadi vibhajan more than 1400-1500 times before for the first time I actually did it correctly. 😂  

Now lately I am doing Surya Kriya, and since I already have a certain platform of understanding, the Asanas already are starting to open up big things, but if I had started Surya Kriya 3 years ago, before any previous Yoga sadhana, I would just think is like a series of stretching or calming exercises.

An apparent Kriya such as Surya Kriya is incredibly sophisticated, every detail of it is carefully put in place for a reason, nothing is random, but from the outside it might look like you are just simply stretching and oxygenating your body. Things are not what they seem. 

Yeap, seems you are putting the work 👏 

Good Sharing!
I've realized this too, and with Martial Arts, the avg person looking at some of the training I was learning and then taught would say "this is horseshit" and has nothing to do with fighting, but they just don't know, they won't know until they get hit in the face or they strike someone and it has no effect, its the same here, ppl with belief systems, it blinds them, and I am not immune to this as well, but I have the sadhana and the kriyas and asanas like You say, and that even its out, but if You don't have that, and all You have is a belief system, call it Christianity or Non Dualism, then Your going to get stuck for 99.9% of the ppl that get involved with it that way, Ramana Maharshi is a rare occurrence lets put it that way...

[Princess Arabia]

5 hours ago, Ishanga said:

@Javfly33 Nice sharing, have not seen that One..

The Non Dualist here will say this is all gibberish, not needed, too much work, everything is just appearance bla bla bla, but they don't see it or realize it..

Sadhguru is not just about Enlightenment, being Blissful and such, he's about the Mechanics of Life, experiencing all that this Life (Potential) has to offer, and how to navigate thru it, so You just don't disappear and are no good to the ppl left behind here, so that is why I like him so much, he's logically/intellectual correct, Energetically highly intense, always Blissful and Laughing, and walks the walk, doesn't just talk about it like many here... 

Why are you constantly putting down the people here. You can praise Sadhguru all you want and kiss his ass, but doesn't mean you have to compare and put others down. Didn't he teach you that. Maybe he should. 

"Doesn't just talk about it like many here". What you want, singing, dancing, meditating, acting.....here on the forum. It's a place to talk.

[Shawn Philips]

3 hours ago, Ishanga said:

Wrong..

"

Swami Rama's abilities were tested scientifically at the Menninger Foundation in Topeka, Kansas in 1971. The tests demonstrated his ability to produce different brain waves, control his heart rate, and create temperature differentials: 

Brain waves

Swami Rama was able to produce alpha waves, theta waves, and delta waves at will. He could stay aware throughout and describe what was happening in the lab. 

Heart rate

Swami Rama voluntarily stopped his heart from pumping blood for 17 seconds by increasing his heart rate to 300 beats per minute. 

Temperature differentials

Swami Rama was able to create a temperature differential of 5 degrees Celsius between two areas on the palm of his right hand. He was also able to raise and lower the temperature in adjacent muscles by 10°F. 

Swami Rama's abilities were widely reported in the media and increased interest in his teachings."

 

One thing is tricking the body to need less oxigen and slow the heart rate for a while. Another complete thing is live forever without breathing, drinking and eating. Thats all newage bullsht.

[Loveeee]

[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Why are you constantly putting down the people here. You can praise Sadhguru all you want and kiss his ass, but doesn't mean you have to compare and put others down. Didn't he teach you that. Maybe he should. 

"Doesn't just talk about it like many here". What you want, singing, dancing, meditating, acting.....here on the forum. It's a place to talk.

Because half wrong is still wrong in my book, it can lead to lots of mistakes and suffering, so as I've said before lots of the things You and other post (non dualist) is correct but its not the whole story, so it has to be pointed out to those reading and lurkers and those interested in Spirituality.

There are People...

Something is Happening..

Things have to be done to transform Your Life if Your life feels like suffering and pain all the time, and its not just about the Mind..

There are levels to all of this, many don't see, but its Reality. Someone has to state it and show the difference...

I don't Kiss his ass either, I just promote what works, You do the same so please!!

Edited Sunday at 08:33 PM by Ishanga

[Schizophonia]

Maybe but what a useless siddhi

Edited Sunday at 08:35 PM by Schizophonia

[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, Shawn Philips said:

One thing is tricking the body to need less oxigen and slow the heart rate for a while. Another complete thing is live forever without breathing, drinking and eating. Thats all newage bullsht.

Its not tricking the body, its control of the body which is in our capability, but no one does this, their slaves to their body, mind and everything else around them,,. and its not about living forever, there is only Now, its about Realizing the Greatness of Life and Now..

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Because half wrong is still wrong in my book, it can lead to lots of mistakes and suffering, so as I've said before lots of the things You and other post (non dualist) is correct but its not the whole story, so it has to be pointed out to those reading and lurkers and those interested in Spirituality.

There are People...

Something is Happening..

Things have to be done to transform Your Life if Your life feels like suffering and pain all the time, and its not just about the Mind..

There are levels to all of this, many don't see, but its Reality. Someone has to state it and show the difference...

Exactly why people suffer. Preach some more. Show us the way, daddy.

[Ishanga]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

Maybe but what a useless siddhi

 

Apples and Oranges...some prefer what they prefer..there is lots of Sadhanas, as there are lots of different sorts of ppl, personalities and Karmic makeups!

[Ishanga]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Exactly why people suffer. Preach some more. Show us the way, daddy.

Your the one with 11,000+ posts, so who's doing the preaching, Your free to post as I am...

Ppl suffer because their unconscious of their True Nature, there's lots of ways to find out Your true nature, most ppl have to be shown a path, very few do not...

Edited Sunday at 08:37 PM by Ishanga

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Your the one with 11,000+ posts, so who's doing the preaching, Your free to post as I am...

Ppl suffer because their unconscious of their True Nature, there's lots of ways to find out Your true nature, most ppl have to be shown a path, very few do not...

Why keep pointing out and noticing a figure by my name. I wasn't referring to amount of posts. Irrelevant. People suffer because they have made up stories after stories after stories and theres no such thing. Just like you keep making up stories about a figure by my name and just like I'm making up this comment now. Tomorrow I might suffer, or I might never suffer again for the rest of my life. Idk. But you, you know. I'll admit to things and admit to my delusions. Atleast I'm aware this shit is unknowable. I make up stories too, but atleast I'm aware they are stories and won't suffer because of them or I might, but I don't need to invent something else in the mind to stop it. So what. Let it be. I'll suffer, I don't care just as I don't care if I'm happy. It's all just energy. Nothing wrong with what you said the same way nothing right with it either. Same here.

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Why keep pointing out and noticing a figure by my name. I wasn't referring to amount of posts. Irrelevant. People suffer because they have made up stories after stories after stories and theres no such thing. Just like you keep making up stories about a figure by my name and just like I'm making up this comment now. Tomorrow I might suffer, or I might never suffer again for the rest of my life. Idk. But you, you know. I'll admit to things and admit to my delusions. Atleast I'm aware this shit is unknowable. I make up stories too, but atleast I'm aware they are stories and won't suffer because of them or I might, but I don't need to invent something else in the mind to stop it. So what. Let it be. I'll suffer, I don't care just as I don't care if I'm happy. It's all just energy. Nothing wrong with what you said the same way nothing right with it either. Same here.

Its just that Suffering disables Life Experience for a Human, so it matters, compared to Peaceful/Blissful States, so the goal is not to be either, the goal is Realization of Reality and what it is, but to get there one cannot be in a Suffering state of Experience, not happening, so first create the Atmosphere for Realization to happen, it won't happen by just doing nothing, reading or watching video's from whomever and creating belief systems, action has to happen... 

Ultimately yes there is no right or wrong, Ultimately there is nothing, Absolute is No Thing Ness, no Body or Mind or Earth or Situations or Desires to deal with, but we have to deal with it here since this is not Absolute Realm, we can be intouch with it via our Experience that is all...

[Javfly33]

11 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Show us the way, daddy.

😂

14 hours ago, Someone here said:

Bro life is not a video game .

It is!

13 hours ago, Shawn Philips said:

Another complete thing is live forever without breathing, drinking and eating. Thats all newage bullsht.

It's not new age, is consciousness.

Consciousness is all there is

Haven´t you ever wondered why the human body needs air?

11 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Maybe but what a useless siddhi

😂

I guess, useful if you have to go the bathroom in a night club you avoid breathing 

19 hours ago, Davino said:

@Javfly33 Yogic masters have claimed so since time immemorial. I have experienced it, certainly possible. In fact, it's good that this is spoken of because many practitioners force the breath again to happen, when it is truly recommended to let go into kevala kumbhaka, the breathless states of Consciousness. It so happens that suddenly one realizes breathing hasn't been happening, for quite some time and no need for it to begin again, one is, breathing then returns of its own accord or by conscious will.

@Davino How much have you retained in kevala kumbhaka by the way?

I definetely feel when I breath is because of fear/psychological compulsion, not because I really need to, because it seems time disappears, but of course I can not track how much time I've been without breathing. 

Edited Monday at 08:05 AM by Javfly33

[Schizophonia]

7 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

😂

I guess, useful if you have to go the bathroom in a night club you avoid breathing

 

Yes lol.

I would prefer not having to eat or sleep anymore.

 

 

Edited Monday at 03:25 PM by Schizophonia

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes lol.

I would prefer not having to eat or sleep anymore.

 

 

Nice video. I love how he's just living life. Not trying to fight anything. He smokes, he drinks rice wine, his hand is all messed up from the war and he's just smiling all the way through. Married and she looks happy too. He's not struggling with the stuff he's going through he's just life living. These are the kinds of people that inspire me, makes me see the beauty of life itself and not how we think life should be.