Suffering is a blessing

[AION]

37 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Yeah. Only in his mind. The mind battling itself.

All is mind so how can things rot if all is mind. You are contradicting yourself which is ok. 

[AION]

If your life is not shitty enough. Appreciate the suffering that is dealt to you: 😭

 

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, AION said:

All is mind so how can things rot if all is mind. You are contradicting yourself which is ok. 

The mind will perceive the body rotting then realize it wasn't real. It was the mind imagining the body. No contradiction there.

Edited Saturday at 08:02 PM by Princess Arabia

[Sabth]

I love my kind of suffering back then. Not anything like now. Like being a deep sea creature then suddenly being emerged from the sea. It turns ugly. Or, like mining gold , or opening up an old grave. These aren’t good. It had all appeared in my dream. 

i hate how calm the world was right now. With the sound of nightingale. Because the people are, the system are ugly. The minds. Tomorrow they will kill each other again.

Edited Saturday at 10:10 PM by Sabth

[numbersinarow]

NO. IT. FUCKING. ISN'T.

Edited Saturday at 08:37 PM by numbersinarow

[Ishanga]

16 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

This is easy to say but when the suffering comes it all flies out the window😪

True! Ppl talk here say this and that, they say they have suffered that is their Truth, but when they write about it here, share their suffering its just a Story to the rest of Us reading it, like a philosophy no different..

So the essence of it is this, once it is in YOUR EXPERIENCE then it is Truth and Reality, that is the only thing that really matters is Your Experience, and it only happens within YOU, no where else, this is the only aspect of Solipsism that is true on a Experiential level.,,

Suffering can be used, as anything can be used to bring You to Your Higher Potential, but Suffering is not a Higher Potential at all, its a lower Potential, because the Experience of Suffering disempowers You, Bliss Empowers You so that Your Potential is more revealed to You then hence Transformation is upon One, so Bliss is the safest Path, get Blissful of Your Own Nature and then see the World/Life open up to Higher Potentials..

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

True! Ppl talk here say this and that, they say they have suffered that is their Truth, but when they write about it here, share their suffering its just a Story to the rest of Us reading it, like a philosophy no different..

So the essence of it is this, once it is in YOUR EXPERIENCE then it is Truth and Reality, that is the only thing that really matters is Your Experience, and it only happens within YOU, no where else, this is the only aspect of Solipsism that is true on a Experiential level.,,

Suffering can be used, as anything can be used to bring You to Your Higher Potential, but Suffering is not a Higher Potential at all, its a lower Potential, because the Experience of Suffering disempowers You, Bliss Empowers You so that Your Potential is more revealed to You then hence Transformation is upon One, so Bliss is the safest Path, get Blissful of Your Own Nature and then see the World/Life open up to Higher Potentials..

Some people claim to have grown from their suffering, so it can empower you in some cases. 

Edited Sunday at 01:27 PM by Sugarcoat

[AION]

Suffering is necessary for growth. If you don’t suffer in the gym you can’t grow muscle. It is the same with the mental and spiritual. Greatest feet has been accomplished by people who suffered the most. Probably because it forces them to awake from their dream paradigm. If somebody is high conscious it is not a coincidence in the same way a person with a great physique is no coincidence. It requires cultivation and discipline; and non resistance to pain. 

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Some people claim to have grown from their suffering, so it can empower you in some cases. 

Yes that is why I said one can use it, but its a dangerous path, most do not travel it well with desired results, do You really want to suffer every moment of everyday??

[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, AION said:

Suffering is necessary for growth. If you don’t suffer in the gym you can’t grow muscle. It is the same with the mental and spiritual. Greatest feet has been accomplished by people who suffered the most. Probably because it forces them to awake from their dream paradigm. If somebody is high conscious it is not a coincidence in the same way a person with a great physique is no coincidence. It requires cultivation and discipline; and non resistance to pain. 

Not so, this is just conditioned into Us so we remain slaves to a system for the elite to benefit from, that Suffering is necessary and a part of life, that is not so..

One can travel the path of Peace, Clarity and Bliss and do all things necessary for life to go on and advance and be much more beneficial to the masses but they internally are unaffected by it via any outcome, and know Reality as it is...that is not possible via the Suffering route..

Edited Sunday at 01:37 PM by Ishanga

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes that is why I said one can use it, but its a dangerous path, most do not travel it well with desired results, do You really want to suffer every moment of everyday??

Ofc not. It’s to be used in a moderate amount. Like an example I can come up with is if you have social anxiety like I had, it’s necessary to put yourself through some suffering by exposing yourself to situations you’re scared of, but to a reasonable degree, not too much so it’s overwhelming.

[Ishanga]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

Ofc not. It’s to be used in a moderate amount. Like an example I can come up with is if you have social anxiety like I had, it’s necessary to put yourself through some suffering by exposing yourself to situations you’re scared of, but to a reasonable degree, not too much so it’s overwhelming.

This is a balancing act, one is walking a tight rope, one day they can do it, the next they cannot, and then one day they can't walk that path anymore, so its not a stable path for sure.. First make it impossible to suffer, feel pain yes, pain is healthy, suffering is not, so make Your self Peaceful of Your own nature, then the intelligence within You that is available to You always, that is beating Your heart, managing Your blood pressure, making you breath while in deep sleep (virtual death), you have more access to this while in Peaceful/Blissful states then Life Potential Opens up to You in a million ways...

[Sugarcoat]

6 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

This is a balancing act, one is walking a tight rope, one day they can do it, the next they cannot, and then one day they can't walk that path anymore, so its not a stable path for sure.. First make it impossible to suffer, feel pain yes, pain is healthy, suffering is not, so make Your self Peaceful of Your own nature, then the intelligence within You that is available to You always, that is beating Your heart, managing Your blood pressure, making you breath while in deep sleep (virtual death), you have more access to this while in Peaceful/Blissful states then Life Potential Opens up to You in a million ways...

I don’t know what to add here so I’ll just say yes

[AION]

If you are in continuous peace you are not challenging yourself and spiritually bypassing aka selling yourself short. 

[Ishanga]

8 minutes ago, AION said:

If you are in continuous peace you are not challenging yourself and spiritually bypassing aka selling yourself short. 

Incorrect, this is the wrong interpretation of Peace, Peace does not mean just sitting around doing nothing, it means You are no longer a slave to outside situations, you accept what is as it is, Your Responsive, not reactive, and You realize that Life is found in Present Moment Awareness, this brings a certain Realization of Life that brings Intensity of Experience in an Empowering way into Your Awareness/Perception, this invigorates You and gives You the Energy and Awareness to actually BE more than what You are right now with no chance of Suffering the consequences, Your full strides walking forward, not two steps forward one step back via the suffering route...

Edited Sunday at 02:05 PM by Ishanga

[AION]

@Ishanga to be present you need some fuel. And for most people it is the emotion of suffering. 

For me the status quo was unconsciousness and being in a derp state. Only when I connected to my suffering I transcended. 

Suffering is like gravity. You don’t need to jump from a flat to know what it is but it is part of life, from day to day. I don’t think you live in a zen state 24/7. There should be moments of conscious suffering in your life. Perhaps you are the Buddha and live in a cave. In that case it is a different story. 

[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, AION said:

@Ishanga to be present you need some fuel. And for most people it is the emotion of suffering. 

For me the status quo was unconsciousness and being in a derp state. Only when I connected to my suffering I transcended. 

Suffering is like gravity. You don’t need to jump from a flat to know what it is but it is part of life, from day to day. I don’t think you live in a zen state 24/7. There should be moments of conscious suffering in your life. Perhaps you are the Buddha and live in a cave. In that case it is a different story. 

Ppl get off on Intensity and Suffering is an Intense emotion, so since they cannot create anything else due to Unconsciousness they create suffering for themselves so they can feel their hearts beating, otherwise they feel super dead inside, but they don't have to do it this way, its like putting bad fuel into a premium engine it will sooner or later destroy the engine, its not necessary to Suffer..

I have Pain all the time, physical pain, emotional upsets but they don't last long, its super temporary and I don't dwell on it, I deal with it in the moment it comes up, I'm no Buddha but going in that direction.. Its not about being in a Zen State all the time, its about being Human, if Your Below Peaceful Experience most of the time Your living below Human potential big time, on the scale of Positive Human Emotions, Peace is 0, Ecstasy is 10, anything below 0 is below Human Potential and that is Tragedy...

[Atb210201]

Yes it is.

Everything is a blessing from God's part or God's POV.