Suffering is a blessing

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia The person said wait until you go to hell. That means I am going to hell. Thats summoning me to hell.

[Jehovah increases]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Who are you referring to?

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

She wasn't summoning hell on you, she was communicating figuratively. Figure of speech.

Thank you Princess.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia Yes the best part of suffering is it is unconcious thats why we can be thankful for it. Because we dont know we are doing it. Its not something that we do God does it to us. Its not created for no reason. God has created suffering for a reason.

I'm sorry but I don't believe in this concept. You can, if you choose. I'm not undermining people's suffering either. I've suffered too. We all have. We all have been there. When you realize it's energy at play, you allow for it to pass through without holding unto memories, ideas and concepts about the suffering. One can experience suffering in a whole new way when they are aware of it's nature just like happiness, joy and whatever other emotion. Happiness doesn't stick around because we don't put too many stories and ideas around it. Suffering on the other hand, we resist and what we resist persists. We don't suffer suffering, we suffer the stories, thoughts and ideas about the experience. 

God did not invent suffering, the mind suffers it's own thinking. God doesn't do anything to us. God is the suffering energy itself. God is everything. Consciousness. You are conscious that you are suffering the energy of suffering. Suffering is it's own entity. When we identify with the body/mind and we believe we are here and everything else is out there, then every thing is owned, including suffering. When we don't, then suffering becomes just another emotion or sensation being observed.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia Why does every story of enlightened person include insane amounts of suffering? Is it just random?

Buddha had the best life and he literally had to go fuck this I NEED TO SUFFER!

Edited November 30 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia The person said wait until you go to hell. That means I am going to hell. Thats summoning me to hell.

If I stub my toe and I'm crying like a wimp and you keep saying it's not that bad stop crying, and I say wait until you stub your toe and feel this pain you won't be saying the same thing. I'm not summoning you to stub your toe or wishing that you stub your toe. It's the same thing. It was a figure of speech.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia Why does every story of enlightened person include insane amounts of suffering? Is it just random?

Buddha had the best life and he literally had to go fuck this I NEED TO SUFFER!

I didn't say suffering doesn't play a role for the mind or that suffering can never be good or that it's not a human blessing etcec. All I'm saying is that it can be used as a tool for the mind either good or bad which is relative and only within the story of the individual. Suffering is not the blessing or the curse, it's the mind's way of thinking that is. Suffering is just suffering. Many have transformed it into something good and vice versa. If suffering was the blessing then EVERYBODY would find it a blessing. It's the mind activity that makes the difference. The mind can suffer itself into inhalation.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia This is a terrible analogy borderlining gaslighting.

No one stubbed their toe and no one was comparing stubbed toes

I never said dont cry I encourage crying. I never said their suffering wasnt worth it I said their suffering was worth it. I am saying the suffering is Good so stop fighting it. I never once claimed to be the ultimate weapon of God.

person -'fuck God, God has suffering'

me- 'its good god is forging you like a weapon it strenghtens you in the metaphysical realm'

person -'wait till you go to hell'

Imagine if I just randomly said to them, wait till you get raped. Going to hell is worse.

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia Every single tool in reality is a way to see God. Each end pointing to God. Suffering is a tool like science math language logic philsophy that the universe can use to see itself. Its the best one cause you cant control it.

Edited November 30 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia Every single tool in reality is a way to see God. Each end pointing to God. Suffering is a tool like science math language logic philsophy that the universe can use to see itself.

That's how you see it. That's fine.

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia This is a terrible analogy borderlining gaslighting.

No one stubbed their toe and no one was comparing stubbed toes

I never said dont cry I encourage crying. I never said their suffering wasnt worth it I said their suffering was worth it. I am saying the suffering is Good so stop fighting it. I never once claimed to be the ultimate weapon of God.

person -'fuck God, God has suffering'

me- 'its good god is forging you like a weapon it strenghtens you in the metaphysical realm'

person -'wait till you go to hell'

Imagine if I just randomly said to them, wait till you get raped. Going to hell is worse.

Never mind. Sorry I even intervened.

[AION]

Suffering doesn’t exist. It is just a messenger from the collective subconscious that people shoot down and that causes spiritual constipation. It is kind of weird people don’t know the basics of Jungian psychology and do psychedelics. It is like doing your own heart surgery but you don’t know the basics of anatomy, stitching and other basics you need to do. And the thing is our body is complex but the spirit is infinitely more complex than our body. 

Edited November 30 by AION

[Princess Arabia]

17 minutes ago, AION said:

And the thing is our body is complex but the spirit is infinitely more complex than our body. 

The body isn't real and there is no spirit. It is all one "thing" of which the body appears and everything appears including the thought that there is a spirit.

[Sugarcoat]

This is easy to say but when the suffering comes it all flies out the window😪

Edited November 30 by Sugarcoat

[AION]

31 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The body isn't real and there is no spirit. It is all one "thing" of which the body appears and everything appears including the thought that there is a spirit.

Doesn’t matter if it is not real or not. Unreal things have complexity too. Lies have level of complexity too. You are just repeating what Leo says. At a certain point you will realize all unreal things are as real as the real thing. 

[AION]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

This is easy to say but when the suffering comes it all flies out the window😪

That is the moment when you are battle testing your spiritual warfare skills 

[Schizophonia]

3 minutes ago, AION said:

That is the moment when you are battle testing your spiritual warfare skills 

Chronic illnesses are truly a test of faith. You can heal or even obtain anything with enough faith.

Like Jesus.

Edited November 30 by Schizophonia

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, AION said:

You are just repeating what Leo says

This is speculation and assumption. It's ok, though, I can't be in control of thoughts. It is only true for you and that's ok too.

[Sugarcoat]

7 minutes ago, AION said:

That is the moment when you are battle testing your spiritual warfare skills 

Spiritual warfare skills?

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, AION said:

At a certain point you will realize all unreal things are as real as the real thing. 

...And at a certain point you'll realize they are not. When the body rots, you will realize it. When your thoughts, ideas, circumstances, sensations, feelings emotions, etc change, disappear and become just a memory, you'll realize they were not. Nothing real changes, nothing unreal exists.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Spiritual warfare skills?

Yeah. Only in his mind. The mind battling itself.