Curt suffered psychosis recently

[Razard86]

I can definitely empathize with him.

 

[CARDOZZO]

I think that @Leo Gura was talking about open-mindedness in a post.

He talked about something like "When your mind is so open, you start seeing demons".

This trait is a blessing and a curse, no doubt.

Edited Saturday at 03:39 PM by CARDOZZO

[Yimpa]

I had my psychotic break on March 4th, 2019. I call that day the “Psychotic March For Truth”. Also notice how that day was 9 months before the first known COVID-19 case. Did I give birth to COVID?!

I was also 22 at the time. I ain’t a conspiracy theorist, folks. I’m just putting two and two together! 

Edited Saturday at 03:57 PM by Yimpa

[Razard86]

17 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

I think that @Leo Gura was talking about open-mindedness in a post.

He talked about something like "When your mind is so open, you start seeing demons".

This trait is a blessing and a curse, no doubt.

Yeah the path to God is radical open-mindedness. If you are afraid of losing your mind then you will get stuck in this work. Just remember REAL is a mental construction. For example a person would tell you that a paper clip can't have a personality. That person isn't really awake. There is no difference between a conversation with a candle stick, and a conversation with a person.

Can you break the boundary between Sane and Insane? Can you realize that the source of the conversation you had with the paperclip is the same source that gives rise to human speech? Then there are the paranoia stories your mind can make up. How is that any different than the normal stories your mind makes up? Its still the same source. It's this type of radical thinking that opens up your creativity.

If you open up your mind....cartoons will speak to you, and...you can even become them!!!!

Curt has no clue what real open-mindedness is.

[UnbornTao]

I suspect it might have been intellectually-induced, in other words, by what he does with his mind--at least this may have contributed. You can be open and at the same time grounded on accurate or objective perceptions, without the latter you're more likely to float in abstract and airy-fairy worlds and notions. If one pays attention, the actions that preceded such episode can be tracked down, for example by superficially indulging or engaging in an idea. 

Edited Saturday at 09:45 PM by UnbornTao

[Carl-Richard]

There is a difference between opening your mind and transcending the mind. The former is just another mind game. It can be a useful and interesting and beautiful mind game, but it can also be terrifying and difficult. If you get to that point, and if you value your existence on Earth, you will eventually fall back on virtues like balance, temperance and clarify of mind (relevance, integrity, health). That is what a biological organism is anyway.

Edited Sunday at 05:27 PM by Carl-Richard

[Leo Gura]

Curt is too scared to actually comprehend Consciousness.

He is afraid of insanity. But insanity is where its at.

He wants to put Consciousness in a rationalist scientist box. Which will never work.

As I told him, it's all a hallucination. But he doesn't want to know that.

Edited Sunday at 12:59 AM by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

That must be a terrible experience for him. 

[Yimpa]

 

[Terell Kirby]

@Leo Gura i watched both episodes of you on his podcasts. I do commend him for trying to understand what you were pointing to, but seems as though he was thoroughly entrenched in scientific/rationalist worldview, it was rough seeing him struggle to break out of it.

He’s a great thinker in his capacity to construct sophisticated models & TOEs .. but cannot transcend the construction process at a meta level.

Edited Sunday at 01:41 AM by Terell Kirby

[Ishanga]

On 11/30/2024 at 7:16 AM, Razard86 said:

I can definitely empathize with him.

 

I've watched him over the years, he's very very Intellectually Identified, he's all thoughts and thinking and calculating, dissecting things up but then trying to put it all back together with a set of scissors, that is why he had a mental breakdown, feel sorry for ppl like that too!!

[Vynce]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Curt is too scared to actually comprehend Consciousness.

He is afraid of insanity. But insanity is where its at.

He wants to put Consciousness in a rationalist scientist box. Which will never work.

As I told him, it's all a hallucination. But he doesn't want to know that.

Yo Leo; by the way.

when are you going to do another podcast with someone? Many new formats are out there, which would definitely invite you if you would let them.

or if that’s to low consciousness for you, why don’t you make a podcast format for yourself. There is a ton of value in exactly this unscripted authentic (self-) dialogue that you might miss out. 
 

Many of your followers might take reality to seriously if they only consume your serious scripted content. 
 

I know that because it was that way for me.

podcasting could be a great round up to your work. 

[zurew]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

it's all a hallucination.

Its all a hallucination except the set of things that you pressupose with that statement and some other things  that you usually dont spell out.

For example, some things that you wouldn't consider to be hallucinations are  (things that you would consider to be necessary and consistent elements of all dreams ; in other words, things that are true for all dreams) - You are God; There are levels of consciousness; ....

Edited Sunday at 02:38 PM by zurew

[kamwalker]

The more attachments you have in the world, the more likely it is you will eventually lose your mind if you continue to explore Consciousness. I came to this understanding about two years ago and pretty much decided to not go that deep again until I'm ready. The clash of trying to maintain some semblance of a normal life where the people around you don't have the slightest clue what you're experiencing will start to make you feel crazy. 

[Yimpa]

7 hours ago, Vynce said:

Yo Leo; by the way.

when are you going to do another podcast with someone? Many new formats are out there, which would definitely invite you if you would let them.

I’ve contacted Thaddeus Russell recently and am still waiting to hear back from him. 

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Vynce said:

when are you going to do another podcast with someone?

Almost nobody wants to talk to me. And frankly that is it for the best. My ideas are not for podcast chitter-chatter.

[OBEler]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Almost nobody wants to talk to me. And frankly that is it for the best. My ideas are not for podcast chitter-chatter.

Then I wait for the 6 hour Claude ai interview with you.

[Miguel1]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Almost nobody wants to talk to me. And frankly that is it for the best. My ideas are not for podcast chitter-chatter.

Totally agree. This work cannot be for these more popular medias.

The community we have here is extremely niched. And even then, there’s a bunch of people spiritual by-passing. And a bunch of psychologically broken people using this work to escape.

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura aww… hmm 

[Thought Art]

1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

And even then, there’s a bunch of people spiritual by-passing. And a bunch of psychologically broken people using this work to escape.

Haha welcome to planet earth…

a bunch of Psychologically damaged people surviving to escape. 
 

I even cringe at myself right now.

Edited Monday at 02:24 AM by Thought Art