Enlightenment

[Breakingthewall]

@James123 and Osho in that video didn't try to explain to the guy what enlightenment is, he just try to appear interesting and mysterious, then he's just another fucking clown 🤡 

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

@James123 and Osho in that video didn't try to explain to the guy what enlightenment is, he just try to appear interesting and mysterious, then he's just another fucking clown 🤡 

 

You are lost brother.

 

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then why you say that reality is nothing? And be isn't nothing, is be. 

İt is nothing. 

Much love. 

[VeganAwake]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

Survival. Ego does not leave, can only be under control.

What You are is empty, nothing, but as a self you are a still human being. 

Body survival is natural instinct.

Ego doesn't create physical reality....it just places meaning, purpose and value overtop of a meaningless reality(matrix). For ego, everything has to mean something. 

But reality doesn't have meaning. Nothing matters or needs to be a certain way, including ego being under control.

Nothing creates the universe or physical reality.....that's completely unknowable. Anyone that proclaims they know or understand how physical reality exists is full of BS.

Self and ego are the exact same illusion. There isn't a self and then also ego....ego = self....both unreal!

❤️ 

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

You are lost brother.

 

İt is nothing. 

Much love. 

🤣

[Breakingthewall]

1 minute ago, VeganAwake said:

Nothing creates the universe or physical reality.....that's completely unknowable. Anyone that proclaims they know or understand how physical reality exists is full of BS.

Ah, good. Then it's impossible to understand what you are. And if someone does, he's lying. Sounds wonderful. 

Well, it's possible, just open yourself to the nature of reality, it's obvious. Reality is absence of limitations, due the absence of limitations reality is, and that's what you are, and this isness manifest is everything, in total expansion, infinite dimensions of being, that ultimately are apparent because from an infinite perspective they are just apparent movement, but this apparent movement is happening, and is unlimited, it's the dance of existence, life, and that's what you are 

[James123]

@VeganAwake i really don't know what to tell you. 

Good luck.

Much love. 

[VeganAwake]

44 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Ah, good. Then it's impossible to understand what you are. And if someone does, he's lying. Sounds wonderful. 

Well, it's possible, just open yourself to the nature of reality, it's obvious. Reality is absence of limitations, due the absence of limitations reality is, and that's what you are, and this isness manifest is everything, in total expansion, infinite dimensions of being, that ultimately are apparent because from an infinite perspective they are just apparent movement, but this apparent movement is happening, and is unlimited, it's the dance of existence, life, and that's what you are 

There isn't a you in which could understand what itself is. That's literally the illusion of self again....

As for absence of limitations.....that body can't go without water, fly or jump over mountains....sounds limited to me. 

Your not reality bud, trust. But nothing wrong with believing that.....it's spiritual ego delusions is all.

❤️ 

[VeganAwake]

49 minutes ago, James123 said:

@VeganAwake i really don't know what to tell you. 

Good luck.

Much love. 

It's all good brother. I'm not trying to get anywhere!

Just commenting on the topic. 

Not trying to convince anyone of anything ❤️ 

[Breakingthewall]

23 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

 

Your not reality bud, trust. But nothing wrong with believing that.....it's spiritual ego delusions is all.

❤️ 

🤣You are in the opposite side of enlightenment, believe me😍😍😍😍🥳🥳🥳😋🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💘❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🤡🤡

[VeganAwake]

23 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

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There's only what is, so how could there be any opposite?

You've digested misinformation about what enlightenment is or isn't.

Your cup runneth over.

And you can never learn what you think you already know!

Gotta empty that cup bud!!

❤️ 

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

There's only what is, so how could there be any opposite?

Ignorance is the opposite to enlightenment. Both are what is, but different states, ignorance is closeness, enlightenment openenss. 

 

11 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

And you can never learn what you think you already know!

Gotta empty that cup bud!!

my cup is empty, and precisely, in the empty cup is where the understanding comes, passive aggressive brother full of hearts 🤣

[Someone here]

To me ..enlightenment is not that you get to know something.  Its the realization that you know absolutely nothing. .completely .and to be OK with that and not finding it troublesome . To be at peace with not knowing.  You barely know 1% of all there is to know . I'm only saying this to not be extreme .the truth is you literally do not know anything. Period  

Also enlightenment is the realization that everything is OK .everything is alright. No matter what happens .it's all gonna be good at the end .as the saying goes "everything will be okay at the end .If it's not okay ..then it's not the end ".

Enlightenment is realizing everything Is you . Not to be confused with solipsism. But all other people in the essence are essentially you . But they have consciousness just like you . 

Enlightenment is realizing everything is inevitable. Each atom In the cosmos follows the laws of physics. Everything is preordained from the beginning-less  beginning. 

Enlightenment is realizing that you don't need anything. You lack nothing.  you are perfect and complete just the way you are .

And finally...Enlightenment is realizing you are the creator of reality. You created this universe. Nobody else .and there is nothing to do but just to relax and enjoy the ride knowing that all is well .

[Princess Arabia]

35 minutes ago, Someone here said:

To me ..enlightenment is not that you get to know something.  Its the realization that you know absolutely nothing. .completely .and to be OK with that and not finding it troublesome . To be at peace with not knowing.  You barely know 1% of all there is to know . I'm only saying this to not be extreme .the truth is you literally do not know anything. Period  

Also enlightenment is the realization that everything is OK .everything is alright. No matter what happens .it's all gonna be good at the end .as the saying goes "everything will be okay at the end .If it's not okay ..then it's not the end ".

Enlightenment is realizing everything Is you . Not to be confused with solipsism. But all other people in the essence are essentially you . But they have consciousness just like you . 

Enlightenment is realizing everything is inevitable. Each atom In the cosmos follows the laws of physics. Everything is preordained from the beginning-less  beginning. 

Enlightenment is realizing that you don't need anything. You lack nothing.  you are perfect and complete just the way you are .

And finally...Enlightenment is realizing you are the creator of reality. You created this universe. Nobody else .and there is nothing to do but just to relax and enjoy the ride knowing that all is well .

Sounds like the ego is trying to comfort itself. Knowing absolutely nothing is also KNOWING you know absolutely nothing. IOW, you're stating that you know something. Everything is ok, implies there's something that's not ok. The fact that you're saying that implies there's a thought that once believed everything was not ok. Sounds like a thought trying to comfort itself. "It's gonna be good in the end" implies there's a beginning and an end of which there is none, but only in the mind that created a beginning and an end.

Everything is not you because that's duality. Do you look at a tree and say it's you. No. You only say this because you were told this. If you really believed this, you would have no problems and no need to stop doing anything you're doing because you would know it's you. Saying you don't need anything and is like saying the body doesn't need water to survive and you don't need air to breathe. The person you are talking to is not perfect and complete just the way they are. That's like saying the rose bud is perfect just the way it is and need not grow anymore. The apple tree as a seed is perfect the way it is and need no watering to grow to it's full potential.

"Each atom in the cosmos follows the laws of physics"? That may be true, but I thought the atoms were me and the laws of physics was me, as in "everything is you". Everything as in what, the material things but not the abstract? I am the creator of reality? This Universe? How? Where is the thing that created the other thing. Where is the Universe?. 

You see, these words are empty. I know language is all we have and a way of communicating. What we communicate is essentially meaningless where this is concerned. It's only meaningful in the dualistic, relative world where it's all changeable and not permanent. Impermanence means not permanent, so the meaning of these words are also impermanent.

Not knocking your efforts, only showing how it's not truth. Absolute Truth. They are only a representation of the Absolute. Nothing you or I say holds any weight. Why speak? There's no one speaking. Why anything? Because there's no one making that choice. Life is happening and there's nothing anyone can do about it. There is enlightenment within infinity. Infinity is everything, enlightenment is a concept within infinity. If I'm everything then I'm already enlightened. Who is there to know what enlightenment is if everyone is everything.

[gettoefl]

@Breakingthewall 🙌💥😜💡🙏

 

[James123]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Its the realization that you know absolutely nothing.

Absofuckinglutely. 

[Breakingthewall]

46 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

@Breakingthewall 🙌💥😜💡🙏

 

😉😉

[VeganAwake]

10 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Ignorance is the opposite to enlightenment. Both are what is, but different states, ignorance is closeness, enlightenment openenss. 

 

my cup is empty, and precisely, in the empty cup is where the understanding comes, passive aggressive brother full of hearts 🤣

Hehe cup is empty while you describe your spiritually conditioned interpretation of it.....classic!!😜 

❤️ 💙 💜 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

Hehe cup is empty while you describe your spiritually conditioned interpretation of it.....classic!!😜 

❤️ 💙 💜 

Interpretation happen when you talk. There is only one thing to know: I am. In it is everything, it's the absolute understanding, omniscience. Anything else are only details, collateral things. The core of the reality is that the total abyss without bottom is, and that is you, because it's the only "thing" that is, or better is the isness itself. It's not conditioned mind or something learned, is the description of a fact, and in it it's everything, it's the absolute potential. Perception is relative, but isness is absolute, and in this absolute perception happens. Perception is just the surface, under it is the totality. Isness is not just simply being, is the absolute depth where everything is. In this very moment the whole infinity with all it's power, that is (redundantly) infinite, is. The fact of the absence of limits make this moment that is infinite, and this infinity is the cause of that I am, I am the totality of existence manifesting, I totally know my character as absolute being, and I totally know that anything else is the same being, it can't be more obvious. 

Why you are? Because there are not limits . Nothing is finite, a thought is infinite, there are infinite infinity reflecting in themselves, and all are the same: you. Simple right? And infinitely intrincated. Look at yourself in the face, to the abyss without bottom. At first it's panic, because it's precisely an abyss where you dissapear. Then, you realize that you are the abyss. You are at home, because you are that, the absolute power that is. The total will of being, the dance of the cosmos. Then, dance. It's inevitable.

Edited Saturday at 05:45 AM by Breakingthewall

[James123]

@Breakingthewall i don't want to interrupt your conversation, but, for you Buddha, Krishnamurti, Peter Raltson, and Osho is wrong. Are you ok? How can you be more deluded?

But, anyway I still love you, because there is no tomorrow. İ appreciate for the conversation. 

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

@Breakingthewall i don't want to interrupt your conversation, but, for you Buddha, Krishnamurti, Peter Raltson, and Osho is wrong. Are you ok? How can you be more deluded?

But, anyway I still love you, because there is no tomorrow. İ appreciate for the conversation. 

I don't know Buddha, why Buddha? But Krishnamurti and Ralston seem narcissistic clowns that talk to appear mysterious and superior , very swallow speech without truth. 

Osho , well, I think he talks to appear smart more than to communicate, in his speech is a lot of ego. Watch the video that you posted, it's obvious that his objetive is appearing superior than his interviewer. 

Edited Saturday at 05:52 AM by Breakingthewall