Enlightenment

[Someone here]

@Javfly33 bro for God's sake its called  "it is "and then you continue...not "is......".

😁🙏

[Princess Arabia]

38 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Wise for the being. So it does not get entangled thinking is already liberated. 

THIS can be a prison. Is simply if you want a beautiful THIS or a terrible THIS.

Ok, you're right.

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@Princess Arabia @Inliytened1  guys seriously though its all just mental masturbation unless one is speaking from direct experience.  I know you   two and Breakingthewall and Razard86 and Javfly33 and others are speaking  from direct experience. It is clear for anyone who does actually have experience. But we are using words like God..solipsism..awakening..imaginary ..your dick doesn't exist unless you touch it etc do you realize that people are reading our posts ? Some beginners on the spiritual path might literally find this a form of psychosis. Much love 🙏

Everything is mental masturbation.  You're not gonna get serious about this stuff if you're hanging out here.  Unless you came here after.

Edited December 3 by Inliytened1

[Someone here]

26 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Everything is mental masturbation.  You're not gonna get serious about this stuff if you're hanging out here.  Unless you came here after.

You are right. Your old signature was "the path to truth is walked alone " something like this right ? 

I will be honest..I use this forum as a form of entertainment .and also.. where else in society I can talk with like minded people about philosophy and spiritual topics ? If I tell my mom that I'm God she's legit gonna think I've lost my beans and went bananas .

It's a form of expressing ourselves. We are all doing this .no one is excluded. Hell..even Leo himself have said this forum is sort of a longue. If we want to awaken seriously we must quit this Tom &Jerry games and go to seminars or overdose on some DMT . It's good to be clear man .

 

[Inliytened1]

34 minutes ago, Someone here said:

You are right. Your old signature was "the path to truth is walked alone " something like this right ? 

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It is walked alone.  It must be.  It cannot be any other way.  There must be certain Truths that no one else will understand.  For you hold them deep within you.  They cannot begin to understand without being you.  Yet the irony is they are you.  They are a reflection of your mind in some specific way.  Each individual a broken off fragment of your Consciousness.  Just waiting to be known.

[Razard86]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It is walked alone.  It must be.  It cannot be any other way.  There must be certain Truths that no one else will understand.  For you hold them deep within you.  They cannot begin to understand without being you.  Yet the irony is they are you.  They are a reflection of your mind in some specific way.  Each individual a broken off fragment of your Consciousness.  Just waiting to be known.

What I bolded in your statement is partly why we are here. We are here to offer up our perspective as a part of Infinity. The other part is to enjoy the ride of life.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

What I bolded in your statement is partly why we are here. We are here to offer up our perspective as a part of Infinity. The other part is to enjoy the ride of life.

I couldn't have said it better myself...wait......

[Razard86]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

I couldn't have said it better myself...wait......

lol

[Inliytened1]

43 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

lol

@Someone here@Razard86 the funny thing is that Solpsism/Truth is so hard to touch that on most days i can simply barely touch it with my consciousness.   Barely.   And that's on most days.  That's because the need for the dream and self and other has to be so real.  It is almost impossible to touch Absolute Truth on a daily basis unless without an actual awakening in which your dead anyway.  So most days it's very hard to grasp, but even the faintes grasp of it is beautiful.  Have to work hard to be lucid because it's so much easier to just get lost in here.  That's what we would rather do. But it's just a very elaborate illusion. 

Edited December 4 by Inliytened1

[Breakingthewall]

14 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

I don't know about him but enlightenment is very much that.  The realization of no self is enlightenment.   All the awakenings are.  No self.  Emptiness/Nothingness.  Infinity.  Oneness (Love) Oneness (Solipsism).  That was the order.  I'm sure they can be shifted around.   

Enlightenment is realizing the absolute.

Edited December 4 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

16 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

The realization of no self is enlightenment. 

To realize the no self first you should think that there is a self, if you don't think that, then how realizing the no self? Who realizes that? The self? Then the self realizes that he doesn't exist, and that's enlightenment. Well, no. Enlightenment is opening to the real nature of reality, it's nothing that can be said, it's just the absolute. It has zero relationship with the no self . That about the self belongs to the conceptual realm, if you are out of the conceptual structure there is no self, but that's not enlightenment. A dog has no self and it's not enlightened 

[VeganAwake]

On 12/3/2024 at 9:57 AM, Princess Arabia said:

Man, they will eat you up and chew you to pieces if you come on here with this bullshit.😅. 

Spiritual cannibalism....

I'm vegan, no way jose 😜

💗 

[VeganAwake]

21 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

To realize the no self first you should think that there is a self, if you don't think that, then how realizing the no self? Who realizes that? The self? Then the self realizes that he doesn't exist, and that's enlightenment. Well, no. Enlightenment is opening to the real nature of reality, it's nothing that can be said, it's just the absolute. It has zero relationship with the no self . That about the self belongs to the conceptual realm, if you are out of the conceptual structure there is no self, but that's not enlightenment. A dog has no self and it's not enlightened 

No one realizes it and nobody becomes enlightened because enlightenment is the recognition that the illusory individual was seeking an illusory concept called enlightenment in a desperate attempt to fix an illusory problem!

❤️ 

[Breakingthewall]

37 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

No one realizes it and nobody becomes enlightened because enlightenment is the recognition that the illusory individual was seeking an illusory concept called enlightenment in a desperate attempt to fix an illusory problem!

❤️ 

So, you are enlightened because you discovered that enlightenment doesn't exist. Because enlightenment is the recognition that enlightenment is illusory. Well....ok

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Spiritual cannibalism....

I'm vegan, no way jose 😜

💗 

That's right!

[Inliytened1]

On 12/4/2024 at 7:18 AM, Breakingthewall said:

To realize the no self first you should think that there is a self, if you don't think that, then how realizing the no self? Who realizes that? The self? Then the self realizes that he doesn't exist, and that's enlightenment. Well, no. Enlightenment is opening to the real nature of reality, it's nothing that can be said, it's just the absolute. It has zero relationship with the no self . That about the self belongs to the conceptual realm, if you are out of the conceptual structure there is no self, but that's not enlightenment. A dog has no self and it's not enlightened 

Why? Why can't you be awareness thinking your a self or an objective thing called the self.  That is enlightenment.  Let me ask you this.  What do you think you are right now? Truly? The person answering this question.  You have a feeling of some identity answering this.  What is that identity?  That's the you that you think you are.

[Breakingthewall]

7 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Let me ask you this.  What do you think you are right now? Truly? The person answering this question

I'm not thinking nothing of that, really. I'm not operating in that field from long ago, but that's not enlightenment. I'm not thinking that I'm a person, or god or the reality or anything, I feel the movement, the life and that's it, but enlightenment in much deeper, it's when everything opens and the absolute manifests, it's not something that could be said or thought 

[Inliytened1]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I'm not thinking nothing of that, really. I'm not operating in that field from long ago, but that's not enlightenment. I'm not thinking that I'm a person, or god or the reality or anything, I feel the movement, the life and that's it, but enlightenment in much deeper, it's when everything opens and the absolute manifests, it's not something that could be said or thought 

You don't just feel the movement.   You have a sense of self, an identity.  Have you ever performed self inquiry? There is something you hold within as to what you currently believe you are.  When it comes to you what do you actually believe you are? The body? The soul? What do you think you are?  Can you pinpoint it?

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

You don't just feel the movement.   You have a sense of self, an identity.  Have you ever performed self inquiry? There is something you hold within as to what you currently believe you are.  When it comes to you what do you actually believe you are? The body? The soul? What do you think you are?  Can you pinpoint it?

14 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

 

I don't believe nothing precisely because I Know that any belief is false, of better, it's just a belief that belongs to the realm of the beliefs. That's the first step to free yourself. If I say: I believe that im the experience, or the conciousness, or anything, it means nothing, there is no meaning, really. I just exist. Enlightenment is not realizing something like: I just exist, there is nothing more. No, it's much more deeper. First you have to place yourself comfortably in the no mind, no definition or concept, you are, like a fetus. But a fetus is not enlightened, you, the existence that is without any definition, the flow that in moving now, have to do another step, you have to open yourself, stop the movement that is happening, look into yourself more and more deeper, without any idea, concept, definition, until everything opens ans the absolute manifests. Nothing of this is definible, thinkable, communicable. It's the fluid reality, beyond the ideas or conceptual mind . 

Edited December 6 by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't believe nothing precisely because I Know that any belief is false, of better, it's just a belief that belongs to the realm of the beliefs. That's the first step to free yourself. If I say: I believe that im the experience, or the conciousness, or anything, it means nothing, there is no meaning, really. I just exist. Enlightenment is not realizing something like: I just exist, there is nothing more. No, it's much more deeper. First you have to place yourself comfortably in the no mind, no definition or concept, you are, like a fetus. But a fetus is not enlightened, you, the existence that is without any definition, the flow that in moving now, have to do another step, you have to open yourself, stop the movement that is happening, look into yourself more and more deeper, without any idea, concept, definition, until everything opens ans the absolute manifests. Nothing of this is definible, thinkable, communicable. It's the fluid reality, beyond the ideas or conceptual mind . 

I get that but still- for you to function, to work and hold a job -  to do anything and function as a human in society, there is a sense of you in there.  That sense of you is what dissolves with awakening.  You believe you are whatever you believe you are and don't tell me that you just walk around existing and the body just moves for you because then you are going to sound just like these neo-advaitan morons who have twisted everything around and didn't actually awaken.  There is a sense of self there whether you want to admit that to me or not.  The opposite is something called Depersonalization disorder which is actually almost identical to awakening.  Do you have that?  No.

Edited Friday at 03:42 PM by Inliytened1