Enlightenment

[Breakingthewall]

22 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

You have meditated a lot. I´m sure you have experienced moments without mind activity. So What exists there? 

Mind or no mind is exactly the same! The mind in silence is not different than the mind talking, silence or noise are just different facets of the reality. Silent the mind doesn't leads to the openess, the openess could happen with some talking 

24 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Thoughts are not constant, but the source of thought is. Wouldn´t you agree in this? 

The source is in the thoughts, there is not a source and the thoughts, you thinking are an appearance, you in silence are another appearance, both are facets of the reality. 

 

26 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Samadhi "states" are the proof Consciousness or God do not need memory, imagination or "Mind" to exist. This is a second fabrication which can dissappears where the Absolute remains

The reality now is bottomless, it's infinite alive, samadhi is all time, there is not samadhi, just levels of openenss 

 

29 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

The perception that nothing truly exists leads to the state of deep sleep

Bull shit. Nothing really exist blablabla😴😭 fucking mystics scammers. What is the difference between "truly exist" or "not truly exist"? Be so mystic with a beard and followers? Ufff I'm going to write a poem titled: Killing the yogis with beard with an iron bar for pleasure while I'm singing. Nothing exist vs exist is just a conceptual difference that doesn't means absolutely nothing, is just idea, concept. Tell the people: "nothing really exist" means: I'm going to try to change your mental structure to make a mess in your mind and hopefully a psychosis 

[Princess Arabia]

43 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

: I'm going to try to change your mental structure to make a mess in your mind and hopefully a psychosis 

Lol. Funny because I just made a journal entry about time and space and in the end, I said something similar and had to quit and take a break cause the mind was going haywire talking about how time and space doesn't exist.

[James123]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Bull shit. Nothing really exist blablabla😴😭 fucking mystics scammers. What is the difference between "truly exist" or "not truly exist"?

You are lack of love be totally open

[Breakingthewall]

51 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Lol. Funny because I just made a journal entry about time and space and in the end, I said something similar and had to quit and take a break cause the mind was going haywire talking about how time and space doesn't exist.

Yeah because the issue is not silence and all that, it is changing the processing level from limited to unlimited. The structured mind works at the limited level, all schemes, lines, opposites, geometry, dimensions. The unlimited mind is liquid, expanded, fluid. So, trying to make a negative schema in the limited mind, like: nothing is real, in my opinion contracts, closes, limits and represses. absolute reality is without opposite, therefore "nothing is real" means nothing without "everything is real", therefore it means nothing and try to put it in the mental scheme is crazy , never works

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

You are lack of love be totally open

Don't cry 😭 I love you, you have not beard

[James123]

Just now, Breakingthewall said:

Yeah because the issue is not silence and all that, it is changing the processing level from limited to unlimited. The structured mind works at the limited level, all schemes, lines, opposites, geometry, dimensions. The unlimited mind is liquid, expanded, fluid. So, trying to make a negative schema in the limited mind, like: nothing is real, in my opinion contracts, closes, limits and represses. absolute reality is without opposite, therefore "nothing is real" means nothing without "everything is real", therefore it means nothing and try to put it in the mental scheme is crazy , never works

Don't cry 😭 I love you, you have not beard

Crying is the one of the most beautiful thing. I cry a lot. I love you too.

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

Crying is the one of the most beautiful thing. I cry a lot. I love you too.

Really? Last time I cried was a couple or 3 years ago. I was so full of sadness because a family thing that now provokes me laughing, about my father, who was an a joke of person, something very weird, then I thought absolutely true: I wish I never existed. Then I was absolutely desperate, in the absolute darkness, full of hate towards life. Fucking pathetic narcissist I was, crying because life is shit, and life is the absolute glory. It's a movement to up, to the openess, to prepare your heart to receive the power of existence alive. 

[Breakingthewall]

The atrocity of the baskets of pigs, when the Japanese make to 200 prisoners almost died of thirst and then drown them in the sea, life is a hard game:

At beginning of October 1942 when my father and I walked over the main road near the coffee and rubber plantation Sumber Sewu, laying on the ridge of the Mount Semeru, when we heard trucks from a distance coming our way. We quickly hid behind the coffee bushes laying higher up than the road, (alas) we could see everything quite well.
We saw 5 open trucks, they were loaded with bamboo baskets with therein laying white men. We heard the men screaming and crying for water and for help in English and Dutch. The baskets were piled up on the open trucks, they were driving direction Banyuwangi.

I was 15 years old and so I could fully understand what was happening there in front of my eyes, but what touched me so much deeper were the voices of the desperate men begging for help and water.
I was hiding behind my father and I heard him softly saying; “Oh my God”.

We slowly walked home but over another road, neither of us said a word. There were no words for what we both had seen and heard…

After the war, I often wanted to talk with my father about that drama we had seen together. Had the Indonesians from Sumber Sewu seen those trucks? I shall never know.”

 

Edited November 30 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

31 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

At beginning of October 1942

 

31 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I was 15 years old

You're 83. Wow, nice.  Not sure if I did the math right. Not much time to discover that opening in the cosmos. Lol. That explanation also explains why you bring up so much atrocities, you've been through it and it's hard to unsee the seen.

Edited November 30 by Princess Arabia

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

You're 83. Wow, nice.  Not sure if I did the math right. Not much time to discover that opening in the cosmos. Lol. That explanation also explains why you bring up so much atrocities, you've been through it and it's hard to unsee the seen.

😭🤣 Don't you see that it's a fragment of a history from the second world war where the Japanese torture American prisoners? It's an horrible history that when you read it you perceive the harshness of life', the real pain, the cross and the desperation of life. Something interesting to contemplate 

Can't you feel how you are in the basket? You are a guy of 20 years old tortured before to be drown in the sea slowly. Can you taste the water? The desperation, the horror? 

Edited November 30 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

😭🤣 Don't you see that it's a fragment of a history from the second world war where the Japanese torture American prisoners? It's an horrible history that when you read it you perceive the harshness of life', the real pain, the cross and the desperation of life. Something interesting to contemplate

I don't need to contemplate such things. If the memory pops up, so be it I may or may not react, but there's no need for me to contemplate a memory, good or bad.

[James123]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Really? Last time I cried was a couple or 3 years ago. I was so full of sadness because a family thing that now provokes me laughing, about my father, who was an a joke of person, something very weird, then I thought absolutely true: I wish I never existed. Then I was absolutely desperate, in the absolute darkness, full of hate towards life. Fucking pathetic narcissist I was, crying because life is shit, and life is the absolute glory. It's a movement to up, to the openess, to prepare your heart to receive the power of existence alive. 

İ mean not crying because of something bad happens to you, i mean literally crying like a baby, because of love. İ guess you never have that before. İncrease the dose of 5 Meo, you will see what I mean. Moreover, i understood now why you don't understand what i am saying and why you are based on so many explanation or formulation as science, because you are lack of Your true nature and therefore love. 

[Yimpa]

13 minutes ago, James123 said:

İ mean not crying because of something bad happens to you, i mean literally crying like a baby, because of love. İ guess you never have that before.

Crying is not a necessary condition for profound mystical experiences. I've had plenty of those without the crocodile tears. 

[James123]

4 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Crying is not a necessary condition for profound mystical experiences. I've had plenty of those without the crocodile tears. 

Have ever experienced infinite love?

[Yimpa]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

Have ever experienced infinite love?

The “you” is missing. Where did I go? 

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

I've had plenty of those without the crocodile tears.

Tell 'em. And I've cried without the drugs or altered states. Naturally sober. I've felt the love. Unconditionally.

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

The “you” is missing. Where did I go? 

Lol

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

The “you” is missing. Where did I go? 

I guess, you did not. So, it is better not to speak about. 

Peace.

Much love. 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

İ mean not crying because of something bad happens to you, i mean literally crying like a baby, because of love. İ guess you never have that before. İncrease the dose of 5 Meo, you will see what I mean. Moreover, i understood now why you don't understand what i am saying and why you are based on so many explanation or formulation as science, because you are lack of Your true nature and therefore love. 

Yah yah, I understand your message, it's like all your messages in the forum, means: I'm better than you. 

Then now you will say,: peace brother 🤣 you are wonderful 

And yes I remember tears of happiness but I thought you mean crying of sadness. Talk about of tears of happiness sound to me very like: oh I'm so profound and full of joy that I confuse and I thought that you didn't mean that. Yes all people cries of joy even watching movies or listening music, in psychedelic too, its a normal emotion

Edited December 1 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

44 minutes ago, James123 said:

I guess, you did not. So, it is better not to speak about. 

Peace.

Much love. 

Hahaha promise I didn't read that when I answered above

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

I don't need to contemplate such things. If the memory pops up, so be it I may or may not react, but there's no need for me to contemplate a memory, good or bad.

I'd like to contemplate the real desperation in human life because it's wild. Our heart must accept it, if not the openess is impossible, it's like an intuition