God can somehow help itself

[Hojo]

Being a human shows God things about itself. It creates scenarios in the humans life to tell itself about itself. God doesn't know how its helping itself. God needs help getting out of the dream, and it somehow created a system that helps itself get out of a problem its in that it doesn't even know its in. It both does and doesn't know how its doing it. This is not logical. The logical solution to this problem is to say that all problems are imaginary and don't exist to get out of.

Surrender to reality.

Edited November 28 by Hojo

[Javfly33]

There is a way to get out of the Game, but you won't like It. Is Infinite Love for ever, is emptiness for ever, is mahasamadhi for eternity. Is the complete end.

Chances are You Will go around and around for a lot of time until you decide its time to finish this. 

[James123]

7 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

end.

Yeap. End of everything and anything. The purpose of life is to end  

[Javfly33]

38 minutes ago, James123 said:

Yeap. End of everything and anything. The purpose of life is to end  

🙏😩❤️

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

There is a way to get out of the Game, but you won't like It. Is Infinite Love for ever, is emptiness for ever, is mahasamadhi for eternity. Is the complete end.

Chances are You Will go around and around for a lot of time until you decide its time to finish this. 

Some mystics say that enlightenment is the end of the wheel of reincarnation, that any being that exists is a process from the most basic to enlightenment and fusion with the whole, for example David Hawking says this. According to him, total enlightenment means complete opening to the absolute and from there there is no other way, but at the same time he says that Buddha or Jesus Christ were at level 1000 and the archangels at level 7000. I don't know, it's all speculation, I doubt that any human fully understands what the cosmos is and what the next evolutionary step is.

The possible dimensions are literally unimaginable, the possibilities of existence are infinite. Not all forms necessarily have to entail suffering and ignorance. What I do intuitively believe is evident is that the more you go deeper and open up in this life, the better.

[Javfly33]

24 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Some mystics say that enlightenment is the end of the wheel of reincarnation, that any being that exists is a process from the most basic to enlightenment and fusion with the whole, for example David Hawking says this. According to him, total enlightenment means complete opening to the absolute and from there there is no other way, but at the same time he says that Buddha or Jesus Christ were at level 1000 and the archangels at level 7000. I don't know, it's all speculation, I doubt that any human fully understands what the cosmos is and what the next evolutionary step is.

The possible dimensions are literally unimaginable, the possibilities of existence are infinite. Not all forms necessarily have to entail suffering and ignorance. What I do intuitively believe is evident is that the more you go deeper and open up in this life, the better.

@Breakingthewall I would save the possibility that there can be several eternal realities. So there is even an end also to the eternity. 

Still, a finite eternity seems like a long time 😂 

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

@Breakingthewall I would save the possibility that there can be several eternal realities. So there is even an end also to the eternity. 

Still, a finite eternity seems like a long time 😂 

4 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

. 

Eternity couldn't end because it's not happening, is just now, always. What's happening is the appearance of movement inside the eternity, and this could finish, but if it starts again, it's like it didn't finish , so seems that if appearance of time is happening now, it will happen always 

[Razard86]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Eternity couldn't end because it's not happening, is just now, always. What's happening is the appearance of movement inside the eternity, and this could finish, but if it starts again, it's like it didn't finish , so seems that if appearance of time is happening now, it will happen always 

Exactly Eternity can't end because nothing is happening. Physicality is a really strong immersion that Absolute Infinity uses.

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Exactly Eternity can't end because nothing is happening.

When I say this, people respond saying "drop a hammer on your foot and see if nothing happens🤣". This fucking reality shit is bat crazy. Nothing happening, but it appears to be. I understand it, but it's still wild. It's so obvious nothing is really happening when you realize what Infinity is.

Edited November 28 by Princess Arabia

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

When I say this, people respond saying "drop a hammer on your foot and see if nothing happens🤣". This fucking reality shit is bat crazy. Nothing happening, but it appears to be. I understand it, but it's still wild. It's so obvious nothing is really happening when you realize what Infinity is.

Things are happening in the eternity, but the eternity isn't happening. Perception means happening, happening means time. From an absolute perspective there is no time, no movement, just isness. But we are in the relative perspective, then time is happening. Both perspectives are real, movement is not false, is relative, it's different. Existence is absolute, but that's doesn't mean that it's more real than the movement, means that the movement is happening in existence, and is relative to itself.

[Princess Arabia]

49 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Things are happening in the eternity, but the eternity isn't happening. Perception means happening, happening means time. From an absolute perspective there is no time, no movement, just isness. But we are in the relative perspective, then time is happening. Both perspectives are real, movement is not false, is relative, it's different. Existence is absolute, but that's doesn't mean that it's more real than the movement, means that the movement is happening in existence, and is relative to itself.

Ok, thanks.

[Ishanga]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Things are happening in the eternity, but the eternity isn't happening. Perception means happening, happening means time. From an absolute perspective there is no time, no movement, just isness. But we are in the relative perspective, then time is happening. Both perspectives are real, movement is not false, is relative, it's different. Existence is absolute, but that's doesn't mean that it's more real than the movement, means that the movement is happening in existence, and is relative to itself.

Yes, good explanation! That is what ppl are forgetting, relativity vs absolutism, most here are into Absolutism it seems, and we cannot talk or discuss or use logic/intellect to do anything with Absolute, but You can with Relativity, which is where we are right now, we can Experience to a very high degree the Absolute but that is about it.. 

So saying 'Nothing is Happening" is a misnomer big time...

 

[Princess Arabia]

20 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Yes, good explanation! That is what ppl are forgetting, relativity vs absolutism, most here are into Absolutism it seems, and we cannot talk or discuss or use logic/intellect to do anything with Absolute, but You can with Relativity, which is where we are right now, we can Experience to a very high degree the Absolute but that is about it.. 

So saying 'Nothing is Happening" is a misnomer big time...

 

Ah, shush. Nothing is happening. Kidding. 😅

[tuku747]

15 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

There is a way to get out of the Game, but you won't like It. Is Infinite Love for ever, is emptiness for ever, is mahasamadhi for eternity. Is the complete end.

Chances are You Will go around and around for a lot of time until you decide its time to finish this. 

Yeah right. I want nothing more than Infinite Love. You talk like it's a curse. It's literally the best gift you could ever recieve and you treat it like this?

[Hojo]

@Breakingthewall

14 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Some mystics say that enlightenment is the end of the wheel of reincarnation, that any being that exists is a process from the most basic to enlightenment and fusion with the whole, for example David Hawking says this. According to him, total enlightenment means complete opening to the absolute and from there there is no other way, but at the same time he says that Buddha or Jesus Christ were at level 1000 and the archangels at level 7000. I don't know, it's all speculation, I doubt that any human fully understands what the cosmos is and what the next evolutionary step is.

The possible dimensions are literally unimaginable, the possibilities of existence are infinite. Not all forms necessarily have to entail suffering and ignorance. What I do intuitively believe is evident is that the more you go deeper and open up in this life, the better.

Wouldn't this mean if you witnessed the cosmic joke you are done reincarnating on Earth? Or in this solar system. I know there are higher realms to achieve.

Edited November 29 by Hojo

[Breakingthewall]

7 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Breakingthewall

Wouldn't this mean if you witnessed the cosmic joke you are done reincarnating on Earth? Or in this solar system. I know there are higher realms to achieve.

I don't see that there is a cosmic joke, What I see is that given the absence of limits, reality cannot stop flowing on itself, the fact of infinity is endless instability in form and absolute stability in essence, so what I would say is happening is that you as a form you end, and as an essence you remain eternally.

After this life, does the same pattern restart with characteristics inherited from the current one? It is possible that there is an evolution in this sense and that the same individual has a beginning and an end in each cycle and as a set of cycles until dissolving again into the absolute, but really if you identify with the absolute there is no cycle "yours." ,you are all of them. although I suppose that is precisely dissolving into the absolute and disappearing as an individual. I don't know, many mystics remember past lifes, I guess that could be true, and probably human life is not the "top" of the pyramid, they think that because it's in this planet, but that doesn't mean nothing 

10 hours ago, Ishanga said:

we cannot talk or discuss or use logic/intellect to do anything with Absolute, but You can with Relativity, which is where we are right now

Yes realizing the absolute has the only purpose of aligning the relative with it, , the important thing is the relative, at least for me. The absolute is the absolute, it's always absolute, but the relative is in movement and this movement could have a direction or another . Saying that it doesn't exist...what is the point of that?