Basman

What if you just became evil

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39 minutes ago, Kairos said:

Seriously ? Most people gain power and wealth by being evil .

 

 

 

I meant that karma will eventually take over. Even if they gain power and wealth by evil and unethical means, sooner or later karma will catch up. The reign of evil doesn't last long. By the way do you know concrete examples of someone who is extremely powerful and wealthy by being evil? I can't think of anyone right now. Don't give me historical examples. 


 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Buck Edwards said:

I meant that karma will eventually take over. Even if they gain power and wealth by evil and unethical means, sooner or later karma will catch up. The reign of evil doesn't last long. By the way do you know concrete examples of someone who is extremely powerful and wealthy by being evil? I can't think of anyone right now. Don't give me historical examples. 

Putin , North Korean and Chinese leader(They're living a pretty good life and I don't think they'll be punished ) ,Trump but in subtle ways he does expolit people .

Think of all politicians warlords and bussinessman exploits come-on .

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4 minutes ago, Kairos said:

Putin , North Korean and Chinese leader(They're living a pretty good life and I don't think they'll be punished ) ,Trump but in subtle ways he does expolit people .

Think of all politicians warlords and bussinessman exploits come-on .

Are they powerful because they're evil or are they evil because they're powerful? Who gave them so much power? 

There's a saying that goes — The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. 

Much of evil that succeeds in the world is because of public stupidity. 

But for the general populace, evil has its consequences, they have to go to jail, evil pays no dividend for them, only punishment. 

Most powerful people who are evil are successful in continuation of their evil only because they have disproportionate amount of power, take the power away and they can do nothing. 

In a way, we're somewhat responsible for the structure of evil to exist in the world, partly because we don't do much about it, partly because we allow a disproportionate power structure to rule our lives. 


 

 

 

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@Buck Edwards In truth , Good and Evil are just labels invented by humans to make survival easier and promote collective well-being .

From absolute perspective Good and Bad are just neutral acts It's our Ego / self that draws the distinction .

But in a relative sense , you are correct being EVIL gets one in trouble for an average person without privilege.

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1 minute ago, Kairos said:

In truth , Good and Evil are just labels invented by humans to make survival easier and promote collective well-being .

This is the absolute truth. 


 

 

 

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On 25.11.2024 at 11:51 PM, Buck Edwards said:

Is there really something like evil? 

i would largely say to reject yourself, reject your morals, and you will quickly wake up in hell. It's not about an objective evil, but what you concern youself with.

I have before tried being evil for some time when i was about 16-17 i suppose. It wasent nice at all.

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On 26.11.2024 at 3:36 PM, Basman said:

You sound offended.

ha ha, i suppose hell has shown itself early!

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6 hours ago, Kairos said:

Infact Morals and ethics are bs .

The only problem with being evil is that others will interact with you in same manner or get inspired by you and in the end it'll comeback.And soon you'll become a victim to evil too .KARMA .

Honestly I myself battle with same question again and again that " Why should I be Good at all ? " .

Since childhood I didn't had much moral conscience and remorse .I was only moral due to fear of punishment  .

But selfless acts of kindness from people around me makes me want to be nice to them .

So yeah I have two reasons not be evil .

1)Karma

2)laws 

What is your experience ?

I'm quiet empathetic as a person actually. More than most when I was kid I think, back when empathy is still under development. I think it is interesting to ponder morality like that, lest you end up with some kind of binary understanding. A lot of times things are too grey to be understood in a simple fashion.

6 hours ago, Kairos said:

" Why should I be Good at all ? " .

It just a feeling essentially in my opinion. There is probably evolutionary reasons for why humans have a consciousness. Better at cooperating probably. But also for there to be people who lack consciousness could be a feature as well. Top leaders tend to be often more psychopathic. Being able to send thousands of people to their death for some kind of goal and sleep like a baby afterwards is an ability arguably.

If you don't want to be good, consider however that there are ramifications of treating people poorly. It does tend to bite you back because your ability to live your life the way you want depends a lot on your relationships which depend on trust and if you abuse people they'll start distrusting and resenting you. There could be legal consequences.

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