Why didn't Democrats do as well in 2024 as they did in 2022?

[PurpleTree]

34 minutes ago, aurum said:

 

Also, I expect a counter-counter backlash

Yes i think so too. And then at some point there will be a counter-counter-counter backlash.

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

But societal technology has not moved on.

We are not living in a Green world with a minority of Blue / Orange folks clamoring for the past.

We are living in a Blue / Orange world with a minority of Green folks flailing at pushing things forward.

Well yes, I expect a counter-counter backlash. That's just how growth works.

Growth is push-pull, push-pull, push-pull. Right now we are pulling.

Also, I expect a counter-counter backlash simply because of Trump's incompetence / narcissism. Trump is not just a normie Blue / Orange, he represents a particularly toxic form of Blue / Orange with probably a decent amount of Red. That's why I've been raising the alarm about him more than anything else.

Imagine the difference between living under Marcus Aurelius vs Nero. Trump is a lot closer to Nero.

I hope there is a backlash against Trump and his party at the national level because of how disastrous the country will eventually be under their watch.

However, couldn't the dominance of right-wing propaganda always protect Trump and the Republicans from ever losing the presidency and Congress to Democrats again no matter how horrific of a job they do at running the country?

Also, even when Trump is gone what if most voters who are either moderates or conservatives from now just decide to never vote Democrat again and instead always vote for more normal traditional conservatives/Republicans because Democrats and liberals have now become "too progressive" for the country?

I mean imagine a scenario where, despite the country being in a dire situation due to Trump and his party's policies, too many voters will refuse to support the Democratic Party. Why? Because the Democrats have become "too progressive" and "socialist" for their taste. As moderates or conservatives, they'd rather not vote at all than support a candidate associated with the liberal establishment, even if it means tolerating the current administration's and the current party's policies.

Edited November 25 by Hardkill

[voxun]

Belgian mainstream tv did a piece on the downfall of the democratic party and what went wrong with the election. Mainstream tv in Belgium is very left and so is the reporter. Was an interesting piece. Most of it is in English. Just fast forward to the interview for those that are interested:

 

[aurum]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

However, couldn't the dominance of right-wing propaganda always protect Trump and the Republicans from ever losing the presidency and Congress to Democrats again no matter how horrific of a job they do at running the country?

I don't want to keep answering your doomsday questions.

[Hardkill]

Just now, aurum said:

I don't want to keep answering your doomsday questions.

Sorry for being a downer.

I am just trying to understand things from a practical/realistic viewpoint. 

What exactly is wrong with the last point I made?

[aurum]

48 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Sorry for being a downer.

I am just trying to understand things from a practical/realistic viewpoint. 

What exactly is wrong with the last point I made?

What's wrong is that you're not being grounded.

No good can come from this kind of thinking.

[Hardkill]

8 minutes ago, aurum said:

What's wrong is that you're not being grounded.

No good can come from this kind of thinking.

I am trying to be grounded, but it's not working.

[Raze]

1 minute ago, Hardkill said:

I am trying to be grounded, but it's not working.

No you aren’t, you latch onto a preconceived notion of the problem, refuse to entertain any possibility it is wrong, then start Catastrophising about it. 

[Hardkill]

8 minutes ago, Raze said:

No you aren’t, you latch onto a preconceived notion of the problem, refuse to entertain any possibility it is wrong, then start Catastrophising about it. 

Look who's talking...

[aurum]

8 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

I am trying to be grounded, but it's not working.

I understand. Just keep working on it.

If you feel like you have serious mental health challenges, consider professional help.

[Hardkill]

5 minutes ago, aurum said:

I understand. Just keep working on it.

If you feel like you have serious mental health challenges, consider professional help.

I hope you're right and that I am wrong.