Guru finally says what enlightment is.

[Hojo]

It is the cosmic joke.

I finished spirituality before I started. Fuck meditation get drunk instead it will lead you to the same place.

Trying to be spiritual and focusing on it is the dumbest thing you can do for yourself. Live your life. All trying to be spiritual will do is delude you into being something you are not.

Edited Sunday at 11:28 PM by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

I guess it takes a Guru to say it. When I say things contrary to the notion of enlightenment, I get a lot of slack. These are the things I notice and what causes me to see through this illusion somewhat. It's an ongoing process. A fun one. It's quite comical at times to witness the mind in motion. It's erratic and can be neurotic. 

That said, be prepared for the minds that are looking to get out of the ocean to be it's own entity. To be in control of it's destiny. They might ostracize you and chew you to pieces. They will share a video in response to this one with another bearded guru who says the opposite. Neither will be wrong or right.

[Hojo]

@Princess ArabiaI got into spirituality and listened to everyone even you whether I disagree with what your saying . I was looking for direct clear answer cause no one gives one. I never heard you say its the cosmic joke. If it is the cosmic joke then I am enlightened. I don't know why people think it is bad to say you are enlightened if its the cosmic joke.

Edited Monday at 12:40 PM by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Hojo said:

. I never heard you say its the cosmic joke.

I've said this, though...

 

[r0ckyreed]

Enlightenment isn’t a joke. It is the most important thing you can do with your life. Chasing sex and drugs is the joke. You have this one life to dive as deeply into it as you can. Fall in love with understanding reality. Enlightenment is not just realizing you are a fish in the ocean. It is realizing what the ocean and the fish actually are.

[Javfly33]

10 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

Enlightenment isn’t a joke. It is the most important thing you can do with your life. Chasing sex and drugs is the joke. You have this one life to dive as deeply into it as you can. Fall in love with understanding reality. Enlightenment is not just realizing you are a fish in the ocean. It is realizing what the ocean and the fish actually are.

👏👏Yes, yes, Yes 

[Leo Gura]

This is so cringe. You can hear his braindead worshipers' sycophantic laughter when they obviously have no clue what awakening is and never will.

Edited Monday at 04:49 PM by Leo Gura

[Javfly33]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is so cringe. You can hear his braindead worshipers' sycophantic laughter when they obviously have no clue what awakening is and never will.

Yes! The real Leo is back 😎 I wanted to say it but your skill of dismantling fake gurus can not be superated

[Atb210201]

This Guru has done so much in the world and brought peace between nations.

Don't take him lightly guys.

[Javfly33]

34 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

This Guru has done so much in the world and brought peace between nations.

Don't take him lightly guys.

if he´s legit he definetely has a weird way to conduce it, but I always had sensed certain doubts about him

[Atb210201]

5 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

if he´s legit he definetely has a weird way to conduce it, but I always had sensed certain doubts about him

Don't know about you, but I have always felt good about him.

And the most important factor was what I said that he really brought peace between two nations at least as I remember who had been in war with each other for a long time.

I don't remember the names of those nations but I remember I've seen some videos about it before.

Now that's not something easy; that's huge.

In fact I think That's what a real spiritual guru must be for the world; a unifying factor.

Edited Monday at 06:23 PM by Atb210201

[Leo Gura]

The issue isn't his legitimacy but that whole guru system of teaching. It breeds braindead sheepish followers, not sovereign minds.

Edited Monday at 06:28 PM by Leo Gura

[Javfly33]

21 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Don't know about you, but I have always felt good about him.

And the most important factor was what I said that he really brought peace between two nations at least as I remember who had been in war with each other for a long time.

I don't remember the names of those nations but I remember I've seen some videos about it before.

Now that's not something easy; that's huge.

In fact I think That's what a real spiritual guru must be for the world; a unifying factor.

Def if it has helped the world is great, usually I sense people by their energies, the way he was talking to the people didn´t seemed to me in that 'vibration' of enlightment.

But is true that is a montage from someone on YouTube, he just picked up some footage and then created the video and put them that title

[Atb210201]

10 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Def if it has helped the world is great, usually I sense people by their energies, the way he was talking to the people didn´t seemed to me in that 'vibration' of enlightment.

But is true that is a montage from someone on YouTube, he just picked up some footage and then created the video and put them that title

😇🫶

[TheAlchemist]

I think devotedly following these gurus (or any) can be attractive because it allows the maintaining of the illusion of the existence of the Big Other in Lacanian terms. It's the idea that there is someone out there who really knows what's going on and can provide the answers. The Big Other is a fantasy we manufacture and maintain.

Take off the robes, the pedastal, the rhetorical techniques, the charisma, the idealization and all the group dynamics and just look at the words that are left. It may be good stuff or it may be just empty filler in an interesting packaging. Personally I think he made some good points about identity, attachment and the nature of subjectivity. 

But ultimately I don't think there is anything extra being transmitted there, outside of the words. The sense of serenity and "peace" and stuff is like performing the role of a certain "guru" figure as a kind of actor, although it may not be fully intentional. I would be much more interested if it was the alcoholic homeless guy just rambling something like this down the street.

Edited Monday at 07:11 PM by TheAlchemist

[Ishanga]

35 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The issue isn't his legitimacy but that whole guru system of teaching. It breeds braindead sheepish followers, not sovereign minds.

This really isn't the fault of the Guru, a true one anyways, many followers or whatever are fake, in that they display the typical I am a devotee, praising and kissing the Guru's feet, but when the Guru is not around they treat ppl and others like shit, so its fake, there are fake Guru's and fake followers..

For any learning to happen, a certain type of Faith has to be there, in martial arts, although I never actually saw my Teachers fight, I knew they could fight and they had Skill sets I wanted to have as well, so I trained/followed them and learned, its the same here, no one actually knows what the State of Being is of another, but if it empowers them on a True Level of Empowerment (being fake is not true) then they must Follow the Guru's instructions for real and not Guru/Teacher shop, nothing empowering will happen when that is one's mindset...

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, TheAlchemist said:

Following these gurus maintains the illusion of the existence of the Big Other in Lacanian terms. It's the idea that there is someone out there who really knows what's going on and can provide the answers.

Take off the robes, the pedastal, the rhetorical techniques, the charisma, the idealization and all the group dynamics and just look at the words that are left. It may be good stuff or it may be just empty filler in an interesting packaging.

There isn't anything extra being transmitted there, it's purely an idea, a thought experiment maybe. I would be much more interested if it was the alcoholic homeless guy rambling something like this down the street.

What we see on Utube, various Guru's talking and such, this has nothing to do with Spirituality, Truth and Reality, its just marketing, playing circus, they have to do that today to get ppl to listen and be inspired or thrown back, otherwise how to get ppl on the Spiritual path, just sit there and wait for students to come? That may work on a small scale, some want to do bigger things, that is their freedom, Guru's are definitely needed today, no doubt about it, but we need less ppl that are not real Guru's or Teachers talking and sharing videos about things they barely know anything about, sharing experiences is okay, teaching others how to do it as well is not...

[Razard86]

Enlightenment is realizing that Reality is a self-aware hallucination.

[James123]

@Hojo the absolute answer of all questions, there is no such thing as question.

[Ishanga]

10 minutes ago, James123 said:

@Hojo the absolute answer of all questions, there is no such thing as question.

I'm sorry but your post lately are mumbo jumbo, You shouldn't be here posting...It does no good posting/writing what You write and ppl reading it..which is what is actually happening here.. what Your experiencing and understand things may be something totally different but its not coming thru your posts in anyway..

Edited Monday at 07:34 PM by Ishanga