Guru finally says what enlightment is.

[Someone here]

Guys go watch Leo's episode called "the multiple facets of awakening " I believe its called .

All of this nonsense you're all fogging about is resolved when you realize that phenomena is perspectival and multi-faced . You're looking for binary dichotomous definition of Enlightenment. Which is antithetical to it .

[Atb210201]

4 hours ago, Recursoinominado said:

There was a huge scandal involving his organization here in Brazil. Some of his teachers (who were in high positions in that organization) routinely sexually abused women, and people knew about it, Ravi Shankar knew about it and decided to try to suppress the case instead of dealing with and expelling the teachers (at least).

The case became known only after journalists exposed it. 

Didn't know about that.

I just wanted to say some good things he has done.

[Breakingthewall]

7 hours ago, James123 said:

When you remove all attributes there is no such thing as exist.

Yeah pure existence , total potential alive, the absolute unlimited 

[James123]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yeah pure existence , total potential alive, the absolute unlimited 

Definitely brother.

[ExplorerMystic]

18 hours ago, Recursoinominado said:

There was a huge scandal involving his organization here in Brazil. Some of his teachers (who were in high positions in that organization) routinely sexually abused women, and people knew about it, Ravi Shankar knew about it and decided to try to suppress the case instead of dealing with and expelling the teachers (at least).

The case became known only after journalists exposed it. 

Yup. This is what 99% Guru are doing. Sadhguru is no different than him. Once you put a a person on pedestal . You doesn't have your own sovereignty. You are already owned & anything (even a concrete proof) will not satisfy you.

Truth Is a untrod, road less, pathless Land. Until it is in your experience , Understanding & day today action. Preaching it will never help.

 

[Ishanga]

2 hours ago, ExplorerMystic said:

Yup. This is what 99% Guru are doing. Sadhguru is no different than him. Once you put a a person on pedestal . You doesn't have your own sovereignty. You are already owned & anything (even a concrete proof) will not satisfy you.

Truth Is a untrod, road less, pathless Land. Until it is in your experience , Understanding & day today action. Preaching it will never help.

 

I don't know about Guru Ravi situation, with Sadhguru it is a very high quality path, and we need Guru's.  Its not about putting them on pedestals, Sadhguru says many times to never look up or down on anyone, just see them for what they are now, but many fail at this, their prejudice does not allow them to do this, but they should do this, just see Guru's as a tool, be devoted to them for sure, as they are special relationships, not normal one..

One does not need a Guru but if they do it on their own it may take many lifetimes, with a Guru it will happen within this lifetime...

[Javfly33]

5 hours ago, ExplorerMystic said:

Yup. This is what 99% Guru are doing. Sadhguru is no different than him. Once you put a a person on pedestal . You doesn't have your own sovereignty. You are already owned & anything (even a concrete proof) will not satisfy you.

Truth Is a untrod, road less, pathless Land. Until it is in your experience , Understanding & day today action. Preaching it will never help.

 

The point of a Guru is not following him blindlessly, devotees is a path on its own, people will become devotees of Stones. And you don´t need to put Sadguru on a pedestal to benefit from it.

The point of a Guru is someone who is in Liberated states of consciousness, someone that truly is not entangled, that truly his energy has touched the boundless being.

Trust me, I've been about 10 years into spirituality and the fact is and I have seen no one like him. In the energy aspect there is no one like him (that I know Online, of course in the world there will be, they are just not online). 

Additionally if you carefully and scientifically follow the process they teach, you will verify it in your own experience.
 

For example, there is nothing in the world that I have done , and this includes psychedelics and drugs, that touch the dimension/state doing certain steps of Shamavhi mahamudra kriya. (There was one time that It resembled it that I was on LSD but I was also doing a certain meditation of him at the same time)

When you directly experience something unique that you are unable to do otherwise by any other means (other tools or even chemically induced), you start to really be humble and open your mind that there are people that might have certain knowledge or understanding of reality far far far bigger than you can imagine right now. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Javfly33

[Recursoinominado]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

The point of a Guru is not following him blindlessly

Wrong, that is exactly the point of a true Guru/disciple relationship.

It's way deeper than a "teacher" that you can pick and choose what you follow or not.

For a Guru/disciple relationship to work, the disciple has to devote himself completely. 

[Javfly33]

40 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Wrong, that is exactly the point of a true Guru/disciple relationship.

It's way deeper than a "teacher" that you can pick and choose what you follow or not.

For a Guru/disciple relationship to work, the disciple has to devote himself completely. 

You don´t follow him blindlessly because for some reason you feel drawn to him. So is not anymore a blind following. 

I've doubt about sadhguru countless of times, is just that what he says, how he says it and the way he approaches spirituality is something that resonates with my inner intuition.

So Is not a blind following, blind following would be to follow someone that shows no proofs of anything and still trust in him. Like Allah or the Christian God.