Aaron Abke is Pro-Trump

[What Am I]

4 minutes ago, Wyeth said:

There is no one who voted for Trump that has their center of gravity in Green or Yellow.

 

1 minute ago, Recursoinominado said:

And also very sad to realize his stage green audience is mostly Trump supporters. 

Well, here's a question for those who better understand SD. Is it supposed to be theoretically impossible for those of higher development to support a leader from a relatively lower rung? Is it actually the case that Trump simply can't have Green/Yellow supporters? I'm just curious if the model has a rule about that.

[Wyeth]

@Something Funny

14 hours ago, Something Funny said:

@Wyeth Do you know if by "We" he is talking about his company / whatever, or if he refers to himself?

He and the guy he runs his podcast with I assume

[aurum]

2 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Well, here's a question for those who better understand SD. Is it supposed to be theoretically impossible for those of higher development to support a leader from a relatively lower rung? Is it actually the case that Trump simply can't have Green/Yellow supporters? I'm just curious if the model has a rule about that.

Generally, Green and Yellow would not support someone lower like Trump.

In this case though, I think Trump did win over some Greens specifically because of RFK and his alternative health / anti-establishment rhetoric.

Alternative health is an interesting mix of Green / Blue. Both can have strong skepticism of rationalism and mainstream science, but they tend to come at it from a different place.

Blue is more concerned about the loss of religion, while Green is usually more hippie.

[What Am I]

Just now, aurum said:

Generally, Green and Yellow would not support someone lower like Trump.

In this case though, I think Trump did win over some Greens specifically because of RFK and his alternative health / anti-establishment rhetoric.

Alternative health is an interesting mix of Green / Blue. Both can have strong skepticism of rationalism and mainstream science, but they tend to come at it from a different place.

Blue is more concerned about the loss of religion, while Green is usually more hippie.

Ah, good point, I could see that being a factor causing atypical results.

[Leo Gura]

Many Greens are foolish and ignorant and will fall for a conartist like Trump because they operate on group-think.

[Hardkill]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Many Greens are foolish and ignorant and will fall for a conartist like Trump because they operate on group-think.

So, was the progressive movement started by Bernie Sanders in 2016 all for nothing in the end?

[Recursoinominado]

13 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Well, here's a question for those who better understand SD. Is it supposed to be theoretically impossible for those of higher development to support a leader from a relatively lower rung? Is it actually the case that Trump simply can't have Green/Yellow supporters? I'm just curious if the model has a rule about that.

I guess unhealthy green can be deceived by con-artists. Probably some red/orange shadow making them like Trump.

Also, their mind is corrupted by dozens of conspiracy theories pro-Trump and against the left.

They connect with Trump's "anti-mainstream/anti-establishment" rhetoric. 

[How to be wise]

40 minutes ago, Wyeth said:

There is no one who voted for Trump that has their center of gravity in Green or Yellow.

How wrong you are.

I will not be surprised if more Yellow people voted for Trump than for Harris.

[How to be wise]

35 minutes ago, What Am I said:

 

Well, here's a question for those who better understand SD. Is it supposed to be theoretically impossible for those of higher development to support a leader from a relatively lower rung? Is it actually the case that Trump simply can't have Green/Yellow supporters? I'm just curious if the model has a rule about that.

First of all SD is just a model, so don’t take it too seriously.

Plus, many people have argued that Trump himself is operating on the Yellow stage. In fact, the creator of SD himself said such a thing. 

There is no doubt that many people at Yellow and Turquoise are Trump supporters. We saw many people that Leo respected a lot and held in high esteem, but when it was revealed that they voted for Trump, Leo instantly turned on them and labelled them “Blue” “unconscious” “cringe” etc. Of course that was not very convincing. 

It’s time for people to become more objective in the study of Trump. But for people who suffer from TDS, this will be impossible. 

We need therapists who specialise in TDS. 

[How to be wise]

37 minutes ago, aurum said:

Generally, Green and Yellow would not support someone lower like Trump.

In this case though, I think Trump did win over some Greens specifically because of RFK and his alternative health / anti-establishment rhetoric.

Alternative health is an interesting mix of Green / Blue. Both can have strong skepticism of rationalism and mainstream science, but they tend to come at it from a different place.

Blue is more concerned about the loss of religion, while Green is usually more hippie.

Why do you assume that Trump is lower than Green/Yellow? Have you ever questioned that assumption.

There is a difference between having opinions that are Blue, vs being at Blue. How do you know Trump falls in the latter rather than the former?

[How to be wise]

31 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, was the progressive movement started by Bernie Sanders in 2016 all for nothing in the end?

It’s amazing how many people are both Bernie and Trump supporters. Many people (including very famous people) supported Bernie in 2019 and voted for Trump this year.

This itself should discard the absurd idea that Trump doesn’t have Green ideas.

[Raze]

Just now, How to be wise said:

It’s amazing how many people are both Bernie and Trump supporters. Many people (including very famous people) supported Bernie in 2019 and voted for Trump this year.

This itself should discard the absurd idea that Trump doesn’t have Green ideas.

What green idea does trump have?

[TheAlchemist]

A lot of the new-age spiritualist stuff combined with conspiracy theories could easily be integrated into a fascist narrative.

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, How to be wise said:

You’re reading too much into what he said. You don’t know what he meant by “overlords”, and he never mentioned the word Jew once.

That's the nature of a dog whistle. 

You don't say it directly, so that you can give yourself plausible deniability.

But the intended audience (and those familiar with the code used by the intended audience) will hear it.

But if you point it out (like I did) average people and the intended audience will go, "Nah! You're crazy. You're reading too much into it. He didn't even use the word Jew once."

And perhaps that wasn't who he was talking about when he mentioned "scheming overlords". But also... perhaps he was.

Either way, I know how Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists received what he said.

And I'm almost positive I could go on a Chan board or Reddit board right now and find posts by Neo-Nazis that say, "Is Aaron Able Crypto?"

Whether or not that was his deliberate intention is hard to tell. But it certainly pricked my ears up, and he lost all credibility in my mind.

[How to be wise]

14 minutes ago, Raze said:

What green idea does trump have?

His healthcare policies (in particular prescription drug pricing) is identical with Bernie’s. He also supports infrastructure investment, protecting jobs from globalisation, and criminal justice reforms, all in line with Bernie Sanders.

[_Archangel_]

@How to be wise

1 hour ago, How to be wise said:

Most people who voted for Trump are not “low consciousness”. It’s time to realise that Trump has carved out a share of the Green/Yellow population. 

Most poeple who voted for Trump are definetely low in Consciousness and cognitive developement, exactly like him.
Most poeple vote based on vibes, emotion, slogans and the charisma of the leader, nobody truly has the competence to evaluate based on policies.
Most stage Green vote Dem, it's their base, and as i wrote above Trump is able to appeal to a little part of them.
No individual truly established in the Yellow stage would vote for Trump, find one. He did carved an enemy out of them in his rethoric

 

Edited Monday at 10:39 PM by _Archangel_

[How to be wise]

7 minutes ago, Emerald said:

That's the nature of a dog whistle. 

You don't say it directly, so that you can give yourself plausible deniability.

But the intended audience (and those familiar with the code used by the intended audience) will hear it.

But if you point it out (like I did) average people and the intended audience will go, "Nah! You're crazy. You're reading too much into it. He didn't even use the word Jew once."

And perhaps that wasn't who he was talking about when he mentioned "scheming overlords". But also... perhaps he was.

Either way, I know how Neo-Nazis and White Nationalists received what he said.

And I'm almost positive I could go on a Chan board or Reddit board right now and find posts by Neo-Nazis that say, "Is Aaron Able Crypto?"

Whether or not that was his deliberate intention is hard to tell. But it certainly pricked my ears up, and he lost all credibility in my mind.

The other side of the coin is that you could easily be wrong about who he was talking about. If that’s the case, you have basically slandered this man in front of everybody on this forum. 

You need to be sure about what he meant before potentially ruining this man’s reputation. Some Reddit or fringe forum posts aren’t sufficient evidence.

[How to be wise]

4 minutes ago, _Archangel_ said:

@How to be wise

Most poeple who voted for Trump are definetely low in Consciousness and cognitive developement, exactly like him.
Most poeple vote based on vibes, emotion, slogans and the charisma of the leader, nobody truly has the competence to evaluate based on policies.
Most stage Green vote Dem, it's their base, and as i wrote above Trump is able to appeal to a little part of them.
No individual truly established in the Yellow stage would vote for Trump, find one. He did carved an enemy out of them in his rethoric

 

We need TDS therapists on this forum asap.

[aurum]

28 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

Have you ever questioned that assumption.

My only question is how long until you are banned from the politics section for this pro-Trump nonsense.

[zurew]

2 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

We need TDS therapists on this forum asap.

Yep thats for sure,this Trump Dickriding Syndrome is crazy.