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Are girls the lonelier sex?

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On 11/26/2024 at 5:59 AM, eos_nyxia said:

Eliott Rodger had a strong racial inferiority complex about his looks, which is something that people often don't factor in when they talk about him, especially when this first happened. At least some people are talking about it now though. He was half East Asian/ Half white. (It's all there in his manifesto.)

I am biased toward that sort of look as I'm half Chinese/ white myself, but that attitude/ personality though...

Not sure if his mother was a self-hating Chinese woman and/or if his father was racist in any way, but this tends to have disastrous results on the self-esteem of their children. Eurasian boys and men learn to hate the Asian in themselves (internalizing that East Asian men are unmanly/ sexually undesirable), as he did.   It's extremely sad, really. On top of that, coming from two or more cultures, especially ones with very established identities that do not easily reconcile with each other -- it can feel like you're being pulled apart in different directions from the inside, and often we feel we belong nowhere. Factoring in your upbringing and where you grew up (especially if it was predominantly white or East Asian, if you're Eurasian), it can be a very isolating and destabilizing experience.

It's worth noting that this happened before there was an uptick of Asian and half-Asian men in media and movies like "Crazy Rich Asians", so there really was an "Asian underrepresentation" and Asian men did still tend to get typecasted as dweeby/ unsexual/ unattractive.

@eos_nyxia Half asians are literally the hottest possible race lmao brother was beyond deluded


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47 minutes ago, RendHeaven said:

@eos_nyxia Half asians are literally the hottest possible race lmao brother was beyond deluded

I prefer from far my white chicks ;):)


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2 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

Half asians are literally the hottest possible race lmao brother was beyond deluded

 


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@NoSelfSelf Why don't you kick WritingHands ? Do you see what he posts.

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@Schizophonia Because im not allseeing eye 👀 need your support.


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55 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@Schizophonia Because im not allseeing eye 👀 need your support.

He shitposted and even had fun posting "nig***" on several topics.


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7 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

He shitposted and even had fun posting "nig***" on several topics.

Usually report or sent me pm 🙏


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26 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Usually report or sent me pm 🙏

That's true. 👍


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On 24/11/2024 at 9:50 PM, Schizophonia said:

People rarely commit suicidal just for loneliness.

It asks terrible conditions, like depression, cluster headache, severe insomnia, cancer, PTSD…

Interpersonal theory of suicide says suicide is the result of feeling like burden plus also a sense of thwarted belongingness.


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6 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Interpersonal theory of suicide says suicide is the result of feeling like burden plus also a sense of thwarted belongingness.

Maybe.


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Men can be just as needy and fear being alone just like women. But I think men are more apt to embracing becoming a lone wolf.

People suck, we all know it, the less we deal with people over the long term, the better. I don't think women on average have that hardened of a view.

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On 12/2/2024 at 2:43 AM, Yimpa said:

 

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On 24/11/2024 at 11:53 PM, Emerald said:

And it's evident to me that men are struggling to adapt to hyper-individualistic society far more than women are... precisely because women on the whole have greater levels of talent with regard to social connection.

It is overly simplistic to just call it a “hyper-individualistic society.” The explanation for this phenomenon comes from being more precise.

In general, men bond through a common purpose whilst women bond through simply being together. One only has to observe the way that each sex interacts with itself: men speak to each other with purpose and intent whilst women chirp inanely together like birds.

The loneliness of men is therefore downstream of the purposelessness which pervades modern life. Men also need to feel a certain dignity and pride in life to want to share it with anybody else. It is rather difficult to feel these things nowadays…

Again, you should watch Taxi Driver: “All my life needed was a sense of some place to go…“ “I don’t believe that a man should devote himself to morbid self-attention. I believe that one should become a person like other people.”


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@Emerald I have a joke that you might like:

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A man goes running to his psychiatrist and he says: “Doctor, doctor! Please help me… My whole life is a joke!


Oh mother, I can feel the soil falling over my head… And as I climb into an empty bed, oh well, enough said… I know it’s over, still I cling, I don’t know where else I can go… Over…

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On 12/9/2024 at 10:12 AM, Oeaohoo said:

It is overly simplistic to just call it a “hyper-individualistic society.” The explanation for this phenomenon comes from being more precise.

In general, men bond through a common purpose whilst women bond through simply being together. One only has to observe the way that each sex interacts with itself: men speak to each other with purpose and intent whilst women chirp inanely together like birds.

The loneliness of men is therefore downstream of the purposelessness which pervades modern life. Men also need to feel a certain dignity and pride in life to want to share it with anybody else. It is rather difficult to feel these things nowadays…

Again, you should watch Taxi Driver: “All my life needed was a sense of some place to go…“ “I don’t believe that a man should devote himself to morbid self-attention. I believe that one should become a person like other people.”

Men and women both have historically relied on connection within a social group to meet all of their physiological, safety, and belonging needs. So, what you said about women coalescing for no purpose and men coalescing for purpose has no evolutionary basis. 

Number one, connection itself is a purpose in its own rite because it is a survival need. Also, women and men have always worked together with other community members to engage in survival-oriented tasks.

So, humans have always coalesced together for connection purposes... and for survival purposes.

But regardless of whether women and men connect through purpose or not... there is just a lack of outlets for connection period because community connection has been eroded. 

It's just that because women tend to value connection and love more while men tend to have more utilitarian and individualistic values (and might tend to see connection to be a bunch of purposeless "inane bird chirping"), women end up going out of their way to meet their connection needs more often than men do.

So, men tend to be a lot lonelier but don't consciously realize because they've been conditioned to not value connection as much and to value things like independence and self-sufficiency.

Before, people didn't need to go out of their way to meet their connection needs. It was just woven right into the social fabric and both men and women could be passive about it and still get that need met.

But over the past 20 years or so, things have moved online more and more. And we're in a time where we don't need to be so deeply interdependent on one another to meet our physiological and safety needs.

So, the result is that women and men are very lonely... but that men tend to be lonelier because they don't tend to consciously value human connection as much as women do.


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On 09/12/2024 at 4:12 PM, Oeaohoo said:

In general, men bond through a common purpose whilst women bond through simply being together. One only has to observe the way that each sex interacts with itself: men speak to each other with purpose and intent whilst women chirp inanely together like birds.

In my culture growing up a common joke/metaphor was to comparing women chatting to chickens bawking. Like if you went shopping with your mom and she stumbles upon a friend then that's the next half hour gone just waiting to move on in boredom.

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