Is Reincarnation True? Deep Existential Dive!

[Da77en]

@Sugarcoat The next incarnations are still chosen by you. It just depends on what your physical personality/higher mind want to explore next. If you achieved a certain level of consciousness in your current life, I don't think you would go below that.

The next reincarnations you take aren't random, they are relevent to whatever explorations you are doing.

Edited Saturday at 07:56 PM by Da77en

[James123]

1 hour ago, Da77en said:

That’s a pretty intense way of looking at it, It’s true. I look at it as realizing you were never alive to begin with and thus the “death” of the limited identity is an illusion. The realization that I was already dead was pretty shocking to me.

Anyone who might be turned off by the understanding of the “death” of the limited identity, it’s a good kind of death because it’s just transcending the limitations of the limited identity and realizing it was never alive to begin with. You also realize there is no such distinction between life and death, it’s just one thing.

The “death” of the limited identity allows for all of the benefits of the physical personality/ego without any of the limitations or constrictions, it’s a positive thing.

Definitely, it is unbelievable. Great post btw. The shocking thing for me was, I was never born. It literally killed me. 

[Sugarcoat]

5 minutes ago, Da77en said:

@Sugarcoat The next incarnations are still chosen by you. It just depends on what your physical personality/higher mind want to explore next. If you achieved a certain level of consciousness in your current life, I don't think you would go below that.

The next reincarnations you take aren't random, they are relevent to whatever explorations you are doing.

Ok didn’t know 

[Hojo]

@Sugarcoat I watched a video of monks and the dude was talking about a meditation where they plan their next life what they want to do and they said they do it alot.

Edited Saturday at 08:45 PM by Hojo

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

 I was never born. It literally killed me. 

4 hours ago, James123 said:

@Hojo shadguru says you can never born too. Therefore, can not die. 

Yeap @Someone here watch this short:

 https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxwQbQ7WL7L8L1dlEhav4MlxDThk2qnTfW?si=z8QriyH3pWY2DTTO

 

 

Edited Saturday at 09:26 PM by Javfly33

[emil1234]

i agree completely with OP. the concept of eternity has extreme metaphysical implications

[Ishanga]

When Somebody Dies We Say - "He Is No More" That Is Not True! | Death | Sadhguru |

 

[zurew]

On 2024. 11. 23. at 4:01 PM, r0ckyreed said:

If the Universe is eternal, then it makes sense that life, no matter how improbable it is, will inevitably exist. Life is inevitable because of eternity. In the same way, how could your rebirth not be inevitable because of Eternity?

I think you need to do more work to establish that reincarnation is true, because from the premises you laid out , reincarnation doesn't seem to follow.

Reincarnation usually presuppose more than just what you implied. It usually presupposes that you are a soul (which in my understanding  refers to an immortal ego and not to consciousness in a broad metaphysical sense). But Im not read up on reincarnation, and I can grant that the term probably can be cashed out in many different ways.

But regardless, my general point is that from eternity reincarnation doesnt necessarily follow. All you establish with eternity and with math is that there is a possibility space and whatever is in that possibility space - that will be eventually actualized. But notice that if reincarnation is not inside that possibility space, then even if you give it infinite time, it will never be actualized.

So you basically need to give a  supporting argument where you establish that reincarnation is in the possibility space. Once you do that, your conclusion seem to follow (if we accept the other premises).

Edited Monday at 02:09 PM by zurew

[Sugarcoat]

Guys just be happy you’re not in the worst reincarnations, can’t even imagine what would be possible

[Javfly33]

11 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Guys just be happy you’re not in the worst reincarnations, can’t even imagine what would be possible

In which ever incarnation you are, you are carrying the imprints of past incarnations, so really in a way you are 'living them' right now too.

Karma is 'saved' through incarnations, is not like you wipe the hard drive clean every time you get into a body. 

Edited Monday at 04:52 PM by Javfly33

[Sugarcoat]

34 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

In which ever incarnation you are, you are carrying the imprints of past incarnations, so really in a way you are 'living them' right now too.

Karma is 'saved' through incarnations, is not like you wipe the hard drive clean every time you get into a body. 

How you know

[Schizophonia]

49 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Guys just be happy you’re not in the worst reincarnations, can’t even imagine what would be possible

« Life is hard »

My next reincarnation :

 

[Sugarcoat]

@Schizophonia I bet that exists somewhere in infinity because  damn infinity can’t help itself but to create suffering 

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

@Schizophonia I bet that exists somewhere in infinity because  damn infinity can’t help itself but to create suffering 

I don’t trust neither in the end of samsara.

 

[Sugarcoat]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

I don’t trust neither in the end of samsara.

 

You mean you don’t think it’s possible to end the cycle? Me neither I think ending it is only temporary but it restarts sooner or later

[Schizophonia]

On 23/11/2024 at 8:53 PM, Da77en said:

@Sugarcoat The next incarnations are still chosen by you.

Yes but not the ego.

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes but not the ego.

Exactly, maybe my soul chose this but not the self

[Schizophonia]

Just now, Sugarcoat said:

You mean you don’t think it’s possible to end the cycle? Me neither I think ending it is only temporary but it restarts sooner or later

It don’t see how something who don’t have a beginning could have a end.

A funny theory (quantum immortality)is that your ego precisely has no beginning nor end rather that being an infinite series of ego limited in time. So you will systematically be saved.

 

[Schizophonia]

If god is infinite, it must have infinite egos in time.

But if there are infinite egos, god will be trapped in them and don’t will be able to reincarnate. 🤔

Edited Monday at 06:05 PM by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

16 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It don’t see how something who don’t have a beginning could have a end.

A funny theory (quantum immortality)is that your ego precisely has no beginning nor end rather that being an infinite series of ego limited in time. So you will systematically be saved.

 

Not quite understood this but sure