How will the world survive with this current media landscape?

[Hardkill]

I just read one Leo's latest blogs about Media Pervertry and I now feel completely hopeless about pretty much everything in the world.

As long as the whole world, especially the US, is stuck in this increasingly "democratized" and fractured media environment I don't see how the fascists can ever be defeated.

Nobody on this forum is even talking about how this abominable doom loop spell can ever be broken at all within our lifetimes. I've looked all over the Internet and the only thing I can find is this answer according to AI:

• Mass Awakening: Widespread recognition of the propaganda's falsity and calling for environmental and political awakening.
• Critical Thinking: Encouraging critical thinking and media literacy to distinguish fact from fiction.
• Grassroots Mobilization: Organizing community-driven movements to challenge dominant narratives.
• Country hitting rock bottom: Economic collapse or severe recession, Environmental disasters or climate-related crises, Social unrest or widespread protests, Constitutional crises or authoritarian overreach.

 

[Raze]

In some ways the media ecosystem is better now as alternate media provides some balance to mainstream media and they can work as a check on each other’s manipulations 

[Inliytened1]

@Hardkill dude you are going to run yourself into the ground like this.  Take a chill pill.  There is no reason to feel hopeless. Remember the perfection of reality.  It is evolving perfectly and precisely how it should.  Everything will work itself out.  There is no reason to despair or feel hopeless. If you get bent out of shape just take a break and reset.  Nothing is worth your mental health.

Edited yesterday at 01:46 AM by Inliytened1

[Hardkill]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Hardkill dude you are going to run yourself into the ground like this.  Take a chill pill.  There is no reason to feel hopeless. Remember the perfection of reality.  It is evolving pnd perfectly and precisely how it should.  Everything will work itself out.  There is no reason to despair or feel hopeless. If you get bent out of shape just take a break and reset.  Nothing is worth your mental health.

I am being brutally honest.

At this rate, we are headed for another economic depression, untold widespread violence, many more climate change disasters, and nuclear warfare

I don't see how there is anything positive to look forward to in this world.

I don't even know if I can continue on with my Life Purpose, whatever that means.

Edited yesterday at 01:48 AM by Hardkill

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Hardkill said:

I am being brutally honest.

At this rate, we are headed for another economic depression, untold widespread violence, many more climate change disasters, and nuclear warfare

I don't see how there is anything positive to look forward to in this world.

At this rate is the key word.  There is no certainty that any of this will come to pass.   So why get worked up over it.  It's just your thoughts running wild.  I get caught up in it too and let me tell you it's just not worth your health.   

[Hardkill]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

At this rate is the key word.  There is no certainty that any of this will come to pass.   So why get worked up over it.  It's just your thoughts running wild.  I get caught up in it too and let me tell you it's just not worth your health.   

It seems highly probable that all of this will happen as far as I am concerned if not get even worse than I expect.

I really hope that I am wrong.

Edited yesterday at 01:52 AM by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

@Hardkill You are failing to put it into context.

The context is that mankind has always been like this, and much worse. Life always goes on.

[Inliytened1]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Hardkill You are failing to put it into context.

The context is that mankind has always been like this, and much worse. Life always goes on.

Nowhere to go but up

@Hardkill look at it holistically- sometimes you have to get worse to get better in the big picture.  Thats how society works sometimes.  

 

Edited yesterday at 02:59 AM by Inliytened1

[Hardkill]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Hardkill You are failing to put it into context.

The context is that mankind has always been like this, and much worse. Life always goes on.

Wait a minute, you've been saying that what's to come is even worse than any of us can imagine and that Trump's presidency will by far be the most corrupt and worst presidency ever, etc., etc., etc.

I now can't see any compelling reason as to why I really shouldn't believe that such dark times are coming.

Also, why aren't we having a serious discussion about how American society will ever get out of this absolute godforsaken media environment?

If Republicans/conservatives continue to win the messaging war and keep gaining or holding on to too much power then how will there be any more hope for the future?

[Leo Gura]

36 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Wait a minute, you've been saying that what's to come is even worse than any of us can imagine and that Trump's presidency will by far be the most corrupt and worst presidency ever, etc., etc., etc.

I now can't see any compelling reason as to why I really shouldn't believe that such dark times are coming.

As I told you, your grandparents lived through WW2 and your parents the Cold War.

Bad things always come and go. You are getting hysterical and failing to properly contextual events in world history.

Edited yesterday at 03:54 AM by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

As I told you, your grandparents lived through WW2 and your parents the Cold War.

Bad things always come and go. You are getting hysterical and failing to properly contextual events in world history.

So, even the dominance of the right-wing propaganda/disinformation machine will come to an end before we all pass away?

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, even the dominance of the right-wing propaganda/disinformation machine will come to an end before we all pass away?

We don't know what will happen. The point of our work is to be open and ready to deal with anything. Not to sit around worrying.

Edited yesterday at 04:18 AM by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

53 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

We don't know what will happen. The point of our work is to be open and ready to deal with anything. Not to sit around worrying.

Well, do you think that it's actually possible for centrists and/or liberals to ever regain power even in this defected media landscape?

Edited yesterday at 05:11 AM by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Well, do you think that it's actually possible for centrists and/or liberals to ever regain power even in this defected media landscape?

Sure. This anti-mainstream populism is a fad that will change like the wind. Especially after Trump's disasterous doings.

Never forget that peak Orange is not sustainable. It will eventually implode under its own pervertry. The reason we oppose these things in the first place is because they are unsustainable in principle. Truth eventually catches up to devilry. The Devil can run fast but he cannot outrun truth.

Edited yesterday at 05:26 AM by Leo Gura

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

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Never forget that peak Orange is not sustainable. It will eventually implode under its own pervertry.

 

It's probably going to be a while though.   The left has suffered a knockout that will most likely last a decade or perhaps more.  That's because of their own stupidity and lack of adaptability. 

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

will most likely last a decade or perhaps more. 

Don't get ahead of your skiis.

The MAGA shitshow won't hold for long.

The right has a monopoly on stupidity.

Edited yesterday at 05:41 AM by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Sure. This anti-mainstream populism is a fad that will change like the wind. Especially after Trump's disasterous doings.

Never forget that peak Orange is not sustainable. It will eventually implode under its own pervertry. The reason we oppose these things in the first place is because they are unsustainable in principle. Truth eventually catches up to devilry. The Devil can run fast but he cannot outrun truth.

Hmm, I see...

Well, I suppose I have been overreacting. Sorry.

This really has been very, very hard for me to process all of this given how much of a major setback this really turned out to be for our society. Trump's regime is also going to be like hell given how insane, unstable, and chaotic it will be.

Having to endure another four years of this freakdom is undoubtedly going to suck.

Edited 21 hours ago by Hardkill

[Inliytened1]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't get ahead of your skiis.

The MAGA shitshow won't hold for long.

The right has a monopoly on stupidity.

Maybe another pandemic will come along.   Otherwise you're screwed.

[Null Simplex]

@Inliytened1  The right voted for a man who actively lies to his base and attempted to change the results of the 2020 election because people have to “put food on the table and make sure we have money at the end of the month”, but seem physically incapable of explaining how he’s going to do that more efficiently than the democrats.  The lack of self-reflection is astounding.

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Null Simplex said:

@Inliytened1  The right voted for a man who actively lies to his base and attempted to change the results of the 2020 election because people have to “put food on the table and make sure we have money at the end of the month”, but seem physically incapable of explaining how he’s going to do that more efficiently than the democrats.  The lack of self-reflection is astounding.

Thing is what will the democrats and Harris do?  If the current four years were abysmal for the population what's to say the next four years won't be?  She stood up and said she wouldn't do anything different.  This did her in unfortunately. 

Edited yesterday at 05:55 AM by Inliytened1