Joshe

Reputable Data Scientists Suspects Election Hacking

10 posts in this topic

Any intelligent thoughts on this? 

Duty to Warn Letter - to VP Harris - Re: Election 2024

Summary of Duty to Warn Letter to Vice President Kamala Harris:

Author & Background:

  • Stephen Spoonamore, former CEO/CTO of multiple tech firms specializing in hacking and counter-hacking.
  • Experience with government agencies (DoD, DHS, State Dept.) and as an after-action reviewer for 9/11 data failures.
  • Lifelong Republican prioritizing democracy over party loyalty.

Purpose of the Letter:

  • Urges Vice President Harris to reverse her concession and demand hand recounts in seven swing states.
  • Asserts clear indications of deliberate hacking and vote manipulation in the 2024 Presidential Election.

Key Claims of Election Hacking:

  • Approximately 600,000 Trump-only “bullet ballots” (votes for Trump without down-ballot selections) were added in swing states, reversing outcomes.
  • These anomalies are absent in non-swing states and push Trump’s totals beyond recount thresholds in key states (e.g., AZ, MI, NC, WI).
  • Claims the manipulation required modest programming skills, limited access to tabulators or ePollBook data, and a small team (6-10 people).

Analysis of Vote Irregularities:

  • Unprecedented levels of Trump-only ballots in swing states:
    • AZ: 123,000+ Trump bullet ballots (7.2% of total vote).
    • NV: 43,000+ Trump bullet ballots (5.5% of total vote).
    • NC: 350,000+ Trump bullet ballots (>11% of total vote).
  • Contrasted with normal levels of bullet ballots (<1%) in neighboring non-swing states.

Proposed Hacking Mechanisms:

  • Hack Part 1: Creation of ghost voter data using pledged Trump supporter addresses (e.g., Elon Musk’s $1M lottery database).
  • Hack Part 2: Matching manipulated ePollBook data with tabulator results, potentially through network connectivity or physical access.

Recommendations:

  • Full hand recounts in swing states to expose discrepancies between paper ballots and electronic results.
  • Immediate investigation into data anomalies and potential co-conspirators in tabulation centers.

Additional Concerns:

  • Bomb threats at tabulation centers could have been used as a diversion to introduce fraudulent ballots.
  • Suggests a connection between the election hack and broader cyber operations by foreign actors.

Call to Action:

  • VP Harris is uniquely positioned to demand recounts across all affected jurisdictions.
  • The author and volunteers plan to continue investigating but stress the need for official action.

Conclusion:

  • Appeals to Harris’s responsibility to defend the integrity of the election and democracy.
  • Offers personal assistance and outlines the importance of swift and thorough investigation.

 


If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Pretty impressive write-up. I'm guessing you ran it through an AI? If not, I admire the organizational skills of your mind.

Is it related to the Starlink conspiracy theory, or would this one be something different?

Edited by What Am I

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, What Am I said:

Pretty impressive write-up. I'm guessing you ran it through an AI? If not, I admire the organizational skills of your mind.

Is it related to the Starlink conspiracy theory, or would this one be something different?

Oh yeah, that's all AI. I rarely take the time to organize and assemble info like that. It's easy to tell the difference between me and an AI. 😂 My writing usually has many mistakes. I rarely use AI to write my original thoughts unless I'm struggling to articulate them or coherently weave them together.

He does mention Starlink but I'm not sure if it gels with the existing theory. I haven't looked into them. I know many people are wishing for fraud/rigging, so I'm not interested in all that, but this dude supposedly has evidence to backup his theory.

It relies on the idea that all 7 swing states were the only states with a flood of "bullet ballets", which are ballots where only Trump was selected and no other races/politicians were voted for. I'm not a data scientist so IDK how significant that is but according to this guy, it's an anomaly that doesn't typically occur in such high numbers. The interviewer acknowledges it could be explained by marketing, like Elon's million dollar giveaway, but the data guy isn't convinced for reasons he explains. 

IDK anything about him, so he could be a biased quack for all I know, but he claims to be an expert in data science and he gets paid to find exploits in secure systems. Apparently, he's built several successful businesses in the hardware and tech space.

He claims to be a lifelong Republican. 

Edited by Joshe

If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
50 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Oh yeah, that's all AI. I rarely take the time to organize and assemble info like that. It's easy to tell the difference between me and an AI. 😂 My writing usually has many mistakes. I rarely use AI to write my original thoughts unless I'm struggling to articulate them or coherently weave them together.

Yeah, AI is so helpful.

50 minutes ago, Joshe said:

He does mention Starlink but I'm not sure if it gels with the existing theory. I haven't looked into them. I know many people are wishing for fraud/rigging, so I'm not interested in all that, but this dude supposedly has evidence to backup his theory.

It relies on the idea that all 7 swing states were the only states with a flood of "bullet ballets", which are ballots where only Trump was selected and no other races/politicians were voted for. I'm not a data scientist so IDK how significant that is but according to this guy, it's an anomaly that doesn't typically occur in such high numbers. The interviewer acknowledges it could be explained by marketing, like Elon's million dollar giveaway, but the data guy isn't convinced for reasons he explains. 

IDK anything about him, so he could be a biased quack for all I know, but he claims to be an expert in data science and he gets paid to find exploits in secure systems. Apparently, he's built several successful businesses in the hardware and tech space.

He claims to be a lifelong Republican.

Do they mention if bullet ballets of this type have appeared in previous elections? Or I wonder if this is a brand new phenomenon.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised to find out cheating occurred to push Trump over the finish line in this 2024 race. But I also wouldn't be surprised to find out cheating occurred on the Dem side in this same election, along with both red and blue performing their own election rigging efforts going back God knows how long. We're talking about a contest where the winner acquires leadership of the most powerful country on the planet. And each side no doubt believes the other is prone to cheating, thereby creating a scenario where inaction would be considered highly disadvantageous.

Obviously, this manner of thinking would be poison to democracy if it were believed on a wide scale, but I believe it to be the case nonetheless. Players at this level leaving power like that to chance seems profoundly unlikely.

Edited by What Am I

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, What Am I said:

Do they mention if bullet ballets of this type have appeared in previous elections? Or I wonder if this is a brand new phenomenon.

They do appear but they usually only account for <1%. 

Unprecedented levels of Trump-only ballots in swing states:

  • AZ: 123,000+ Trump bullet ballots (7.2% of total vote).
  • NV: 43,000+ Trump bullet ballots (5.5% of total vote).
  • NC: 350,000+ Trump bullet ballots (>11% of total vote).
  • Contrasted with normal levels of bullet ballots (<1%) in neighboring non-swing states.

This seems relevant to me but I don't have enough data. If we knew that bullet ballots almost never exceed 1%, that would most certainly be worth looking into. 

3 hours ago, What Am I said:

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised to find out cheating occurred to push Trump over the finish line in this 2024 race. But I also wouldn't be surprised to find out cheating occurred on the Dem side in this same election, along with both red and blue performing their own election rigging efforts going back God knows how long. We're talking about a contest where the winner acquires leadership of the most powerful country on the planet. And each side no doubt believes the other is prone to cheating, thereby creating a scenario where inaction would be considered highly disadvantageous.

Obviously, this manner of thinking would be poison to democracy if it were believed on a wide scale, but I believe it to be the case nonetheless. Players at this level leaving power like that to chance seems profoundly unlikely.

Yeah, I agree with you. Contests this big and the players having the resources they have, it seems more likely than not IMO. This is why integrity and character matters. I don't have any reason to believe the Dems would go so far as to actually hack into the machines, but it wouldn't blow my mind if they did. That said, Trump would obviously have no qualms rigging the election and he has access to Elon and Russia, who are more than capable of getting this set up. Putin is already saying he got Trump over the finish line and now it's time for Trump to pony up. 😂


If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Joshe said:

Yeah, I agree with you. Contests this big and the players having the resources they have, it seems more likely than not IMO. This is why integrity and character matters. I don't have any reason to believe the Dems would go so far as to actually hack into the machines, but it wouldn't blow my mind if they did. That said, Trump would obviously have no qualms rigging the election and he has access to Elon and Russia, who are more than capable of getting this set up. Putin is already saying he got Trump over the finish line and now it's time for Trump to pony up. 😂

I appreciate you being willing to take the plunge with me in voicing this opinion. I bet we're not the only two who suspect it. This is probably something many on the left (which I realize doesn't strictly define you) secretly assume, but they don't dare voice it due to all the tripwires and social stigma involved. And I guess even if it's true, it probably wouldn't be for the best if it was part of common parlance on both the left and the right.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, What Am I said:

I appreciate you being willing to take the plunge with me in voicing this opinion. I bet we're not the only two who suspect it. This is probably something many on the left (which I realize doesn't strictly define you) secretly assume, but they don't dare voice it due to all the tripwires and social stigma involved. And I guess even if it's true, it probably wouldn't be for the best if it was part of common parlance on both the left and the right.

Yeah, I mean, teams of world-class hackers exist. Ever see Mr. Robot? I think one reason it might not be a common idea is that most people are tech-illiterate. They have no idea how computers work, networks, systems, vulnerabilities, social engineering, etc. Most don’t have a clue about Russian hack teams working round-the-clock looking for exploits. All it takes is one phished fool to download a Word doc. 

Also, I wonder how modern and secure our election software is. You’d think it would be set up to only send data one way (out). According to this guys theory, data was sent and written to the machines, which seems easy to prevent. 


If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I generally don't trust any content creator who does all the stuff to appeal to the "algorhythm" and that includes sensationalist looking screen caps.  That said, guarantee you election meddling has been a thing as long as there are elections, because of human nature. When people are so sure their cult like belief systems are the only right way to live, they will tend to do anything to "defend" them and will have the mentality where the ends justify the means, and how the win is achieved doesn't matter, and that winning is all that matters. You know the political left are just as guilty of this as the right.  Anyone who is not tier 2 consciousness, and indeed many that are.

Of course now it's the left accusing the right of cheating... I expected nothing less. They will piss and moan and do all the exact same things they claim their opposition does, including be good little closet autocrats, upset they can't control the narrative, for now at least.

Edited by sholomar

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, Joshe said:

Yeah, I mean, teams of world-class hackers exist. Ever see Mr. Robot? I think one reason it might not be a common idea is that most people are tech-illiterate. They have no idea how computers work, networks, systems, vulnerabilities, social engineering, etc. Most don’t have a clue about Russian hack teams working round-the-clock looking for exploits. All it takes is one phished fool to download a Word doc. 

Also, I wonder how modern and secure our election software is. You’d think it would be set up to only send data one way (out). According to this guys theory, data was sent and written to the machines, which seems easy to prevent. 

Exactly, it's been a common occurrence for decades at hacking conferences like Defcon, where exploits are demonstrated on voting machines. I'm more on the blue team in security, but I bet even I could flip votes if given access. And those are just the vulnerabilities we know about. It may be an "emperor has no clothes" situation where the public perception is concerned.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, sholomar said:

I generally don't trust any content creator who does all the stuff to appeal to the "algorhythm" and that includes sensationalist looking screen caps.  That said, guarantee you election meddling has been a thing as long as there are elections, because of human nature. When people are so sure their cult like belief systems are the only right way to live, they will tend to do anything to "defend" them and will have the mentality where the ends justify the means, and how the win is achieved doesn't matter, and that winning is all that matters. You know the political left are just as guilty of this as the right.  Anyone who is not tier 2 consciousness, and indeed many that are.

Of course now it's the left accusing the right of cheating... I expected nothing less. They will piss and moan and do all the exact same things they claim their opposition does, including be good little closet autocrats, upset they can't control the narrative, for now at least.

True. Of course the left would bring up cheating, especially after the last election. But it’s wise to not forget the story of the boy who cried wolf. There might be a natural tendency to reject claims based on the fact that you knew the lies were coming because you know the nature of things. I fit into this category and have taken no other claims of fraud seriously because they were mere speculation. However, this theory has the appearance of validity. We know Trump, Musk, and Russia have no qualms about rigging the election and we know they have the resources.

Without knowing more about the voting system design and hearing from other experts, the safe play is to not accept this theory, but until then, I wouldn’t assume it’s false either.

Also, this guy didn’t produce the video thumbnail. He just did a short interview on the guy’s show who did. He’s a lifelong Republican. 

Edited by Joshe

If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now