Karma .... Does what goes around come around?

[Atb210201]

2 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

He says if You can Joyfully Accept the Consequences of any action You take, do whatever You want to do, but if You cannot Joyfully accept the consequences then be mindful of Your actions.. Is this advocating do whatever You want to do? I don't think it does, it just clarifies the karma issue and what it means... It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of anyone elses actions, ppl will still do what they want to do and shit will still happen, that is their Karma to deal with, not for us to judge it too death and suffer it..

Well yes.

But that's a big if.

You might think you will be joyful no matter what you do.

But that may not be so close to the truth.

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

He says if You can Joyfully Accept the Consequences of any action You take, do whatever You want to do, but if You cannot Joyfully accept the consequences then be mindful of Your actions.. Is this advocating do whatever You want to do? I don't think it does, it just clarifies the karma issue and what it means... It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of anyone elses actions, ppl will still do what they want to do and shit will still happen, that is their Karma to deal with, not for us to judge it too death and suffer it..

Of course. But, when one realizes that he/she is everything/entire universe, one slowes down, breathes, behaves as others his/her self itself. Moreover, ones already fell in love with existence. He/she does see the beauty around her/his self. One realizes everything is already beauty. How can he/she take any bad actions? Impossible, and inevitable to be in peace, love and joy. 

[Hojo]

@Atb210201 Anything bad that happens isn't anyone's fault. Its just brain programming. He says tune the brain to feel love and these things wont happen. There are no mistakes from people there are mistakes from programming. Everyone's base level is permanently happy when they do negative things its because something happen to them that stopped them from believing and feeling that. That's societies fault not the individual as the individual source would not have done that or do it once or twice and realize its bad. When and if the person sees it then the karma can play out, if the character self deleted there is no thing to gain karma. You just become a watcher.

You karma is in control of every action you take in reality. One example he uses is a grandpa and his chair. There is a grandpa he sits in a chair everyday one day a kid is in it he gets angry when the kid wont move that is karma.

You want to attain full dream state in this reality this means deleting memory of reality you don't have memories in dreams. You want to be living on the current frame. This means not getting upset at anything and just taking life. If you leave this dream still yearning you might have trouble starting the next dream because when you leave your still there and you still have your karma only now its just the karma and you forever. Delete your memory or Karma and you will hit the void of nothing and re spawn instantly.

Edited Tuesday at 12:24 AM by Hojo

[Ishanga]

50 minutes ago, James123 said:

Of course. But, when one realizes that he/she is everything/entire universe, one slowes down, breathes, behaves as others his/her self itself. Moreover, ones already fell in love with existence. He/she does see the beauty around her/his self. One realizes everything is already beauty. How can he/she take any bad actions? Impossible, and inevitable to be in peace, love and joy. 

Yes true, its less likely to to bad actions when one is in Bliss, when Your happy then everything looks brighter, purer, and more real, the opposite is true when Your suffering, so to be highly Conscious means Your more intouch with Truth and Reality, and hence more Blissful..

[Ishanga]

50 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Atb210201 Anything bad that happens isn't anyone's fault. Its just brain programming. He says tune the brain to feel love and these things wont happen. There are no mistakes from people there are mistakes from programming. Everyone's base level is permanently happy when they do negative things its because something happen to them that stopped them from believing and feeling that. That's societies fault not the individual as the individual source would not have done that or do it once or twice and realize its bad. When and if the person sees it then the karma can play out, if the character self deleted there is no thing to gain karma. You just become a watcher.

You karma is in control of every action you take in reality. One example he uses is a grandpa and his chair. There is a grandpa he sits in a chair everyday one day a kid is in it he gets angry when the kid wont move that is karma.

You want to attain full dream state in this reality this means deleting memory of reality you don't have memories in dreams. You want to be living on the current frame. This means not getting upset at anything and just taking life. If you leave this dream still yearning you might have trouble starting the next dream because when you leave your still there and you still have your karma only now its just the karma and you forever. Delete your memory or Karma and you will hit the void of nothing and re spawn instantly.

Well Said.. Lots have a mis understanding of Karma, its complex for sure, the key is to not creating more karma in this lifetime, and burn as much as you can of the karma already allotted, if one does that then Life opens up for sure...

[Ishanga]

57 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Well yes.

But that's a big if.

You might think you will be joyful no matter what you do.

But that may not be so close to the truth.

that's not real joy, the murders and evil ppl of this world are not in joy, they are in delusion, they feel pleasures but that is not joy for sure..they can't be, as when one is in joy they see everything is connected, everything is basically no different from them, if that is so then how can they be evil...

[Yimpa]

Evil is Joy

[creativepursuit]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

He says tune the brain to feel love

Here I see a contradiction. Can you feel love without the memory?

Not getting entangled in your own or other's Karma and remaining detached is one way to attain enlightenment and freedom, but it is not the path to Love. Besides, Not getting entangled in others or more dangerously your karma is not an optimal way to live. It is like not taking accountability for your own actions.

Edited Tuesday at 02:22 AM by creativepursuit

[Hojo]

@creativepursuit Yes you are stopping yourself from feeling absolute love unconciously you did it to be a human. You stop yourself when you judge or become unaccepting of an event in reality. Reality is an ever changing hologram when you say something is bad or good you dwell on the hologram that is no longer there.

Edited Tuesday at 03:06 AM by Hojo

[theleelajoker]

@Ishanga

I don't fully understand "residual action / residual result". Can you please give a concrete example?

So there is action X, then these are the 4 areas of actions and this is the residual action etc.

[Atb210201]

15 hours ago, Hojo said:

@Atb210201 Anything bad that happens isn't anyone's fault. Its just brain programming. He says tune the brain to feel love and these things wont happen. There are no mistakes from people there are mistakes from programming. Everyone's base level is permanently happy when they do negative things its because something happen to them that stopped them from believing and feeling that. That's societies fault not the individual as the individual source would not have done that or do it once or twice and realize its bad. When and if the person sees it then the karma can play out, if the character self deleted there is no thing to gain karma. You just become a watcher.

You karma is in control of every action you take in reality. One example he uses is a grandpa and his chair. There is a grandpa he sits in a chair everyday one day a kid is in it he gets angry when the kid wont move that is karma.

You want to attain full dream state in this reality this means deleting memory of reality you don't have memories in dreams. You want to be living on the current frame. This means not getting upset at anything and just taking life. If you leave this dream still yearning you might have trouble starting the next dream because when you leave your still there and you still have your karma only now its just the karma and you forever. Delete your memory or Karma and you will hit the void of nothing and re spawn instantly.

I don't know man.

[Atb210201]

14 hours ago, Ishanga said:

that's not real joy, the murders and evil ppl of this world are not in joy, they are in delusion, they feel pleasures but that is not joy for sure..they can't be, as when one is in joy they see everything is connected, everything is basically no different from them, if that is so then how can they be evil...

This I could agree.

Yes.

[Hojo]

@Atb210201 God is a simulation it dosent care. You are alone reacting to a simulation, reacting to the simulation creates karma (attachment to the simulation as a memory). Only God is in control and God is the simulation. It cant steal a bike from itself.

Edited Tuesday at 03:48 PM by Hojo

[Atb210201]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Atb210201 God is a simulation it dosent care. You are alone reacting to a simulation, reacting to the simulation creates karma (attachment to the simulation). Only God is in control and God is the simulation. It cant steal a bike from itself.

This doesn't sound good to me.

[Hojo]

@Atb210201 Its the best possible outcome for life.

[Atb210201]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@Atb210201 Its the best possible outcome for life.

I don't think that way.

[Hojo]

@Atb210201Sounds like you want to be mad at things. This is a free slip to erase karma by not reacting. Literally bad things will stop happening if they dissapear from your mind, its a hologram based on mental states. If someone stole your bike and you get mad it will happen again. If you dont care God will give you a new bike for free.

Edited Tuesday at 03:54 PM by Hojo

[gettoefl]

4 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

This doesn't sound good to me.

Everything you do, you do to yourself.

If you steal a bike, you need it more than they do.

It needed to happen for the highest unfolding.

Let it go whether the victim or the victor.

The wealth is being spread around as required

[gettoefl]

6 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Atb210201Sounds like you want to be mad at things. This is a free slip to erase karma by not reacting.

Thanks for explaining all of this helpfully

[ChrisZoZo]

17 hours ago, Hojo said:

has nothing to do with anyone else. Having reactions creates karma.

Many spiritual schools and Bashar disagree with you.