Karma .... Does what goes around come around?

[mrroboto]

As the saying goes; "what goes around comes around." 

Karma - we've all heard of it, we all know what's involved, we all know more or less the concept of how the wheel of Karma works.

million dollar question.

Does Karma Exist.?

[Atb210201]

Without a doubt.

For sure.

It's a law of the Universe.

The Universe is Intelligent and is Just and is Balanced.

There is no other way for The Universe to be.

Edited November 18, 2024 by Atb210201

[PurpleTree]

 

[Atb210201]

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

 

Lol.

This was exactly the song that went through my head when I read the title of this topic.

[Hojo]

karma = memory, has nothing to do with anyone else. Having reactions creates karma. You could steal a bike feel good about it and the person whos bike got stolen feels bad they get karma.

Edited November 18, 2024 by Hojo

[Atb210201]

11 minutes ago, Hojo said:

karma = memory, has nothing to do with anyone else. Having reactions creates karma. You could steal a bike feel good about it and the person whos bike got stolen feels bad they get karma.

Doesn't work that way my friend.

I'm talking about the example you just made.

[mrroboto]

36 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Lol.

This was exactly the song that went through my head when I read the title of this topic.

hahah now it's stuck in my head lol good song though.

[Hojo]

@Atb210201Thats what I got, I read the Karma book Sadhguru wrote. Thats what he said.

Edited November 18, 2024 by Hojo

[Atb210201]

Just now, Hojo said:

@Atb210201Thats what I got, I read the Karma book Sadhguru wrote. Thats what he said.

Well that's just like saying as long as you feel good you are allowed to do anything you want.

[Hojo]

@Atb210201 The universe is a field of nothing. Its just collecting reactions of itself. There is nothing wrong with doing anything. The feeling bad is the universe showing you something about yourself its not judging you. You are.

He said you can live your life karma free which means doing whatever you want. Reality is a hologram.

Edited November 18, 2024 by Hojo

[Atb210201]

11 minutes ago, mrroboto said:

hahah now it's stuck in my head lol good song though.

Haha yes; me too.

It is a good song.

[Atb210201]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Atb210201 The universe is a field of nothing. Its just collecting reactions of itself. There is nothing wrong with doing anything. The feeling bad is the universe showing you something about yourself its not judging you. You are.

So I'm allowed to hurt others then for my own happiness or pleasure?

Edited November 18, 2024 by Atb210201

[Hojo]

@Atb210201According to him yes. But you don't know what kind of karma you are going to get your soul does it. When something in reality happens your attachment to it becomes memory and that is your karma. If you ever has sex with a beautiful woman and remember it that is karma. If you made a bad decision and you look back on it and not feel good that is karma. If you got beat up by a black person and you walk past black people now and get scared that is karma.

It has nothing to do with others its how we view reality.

Edited November 18, 2024 by Hojo

[James123]

1 hour ago, mrroboto said:

As the saying goes; "what goes around comes around." 

Karma - we've all heard of it, we all know what's involved, we all know more or less the concept of how the wheel of Karma works.

million dollar question.

Does Karma Exist.?

Of course. Everything is you. Whatever you are doing to others, you actually doing to yourself. 

Peace!

Much love!

[Atb210201]

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Atb210201According to him yes. But you don't know what kind of karma you are going to get your soul does it. When something in reality happens your attachment to it becomes memory and that is your karma. If you ever has sex with a beautiful woman and remember it that is karma. If you made a bad decision and you look back on it and not feel good that is karma. If you got beat up by a black person and you walk past black people now and get scared that is karma.

It has nothing to do with others its how we view reality.

Well this just says it all.

If you stole someone's bike you would never feel good about it if it was just for your own sake and if you have enough wide perspective bigger than yourself.

You could try it if you don't believe what I said.

Try stealing from someone something just for your selfish desires without considering them and their feelings.

Let's see how you're going to feel or what happens to your properties by others and how much they consider your feelings when deciding to do something.

Edited November 19, 2024 by Atb210201

[Hojo]

@Atb210201 Getting over it is what breaking free of karma is, its a self trap. They are made up rules the universe dosent care. You caring is making the universe care and thats karma. It hurts God to care.

Edited November 19, 2024 by Hojo

[Ishanga]

Since Sadhguru was mentioned, the way he describes Karma is that it is action, for Us it is the residual action acting upon us in the present moment, Action is in 4 areas, Body, Mind, Emotion and Energy, each moment since the day we were born there is action being created, the residual result of all those actions is Karma, there is also the karma from the previous lives coming up now as well.. Karma is not reward punishment system, the Universe/God/Absolute does not have a care about anything actions taking place by any life form, but as a Human Being we are the only Life Form that can be Conscious of this Karma and do something about it..

So a person can do bad things and get away with it, but that person doing Bad things and enjoying it, what is their state of BEING to be able to do these sorts of Action and Enjoy it? Probably its not so good, their probably dealing with some craziness and such in their heads, so that alone will be the pay back, it will get them sooner or later but there is no force out there dealing out justice, if there was then no one would be Responsible for their Actions and if that was the case the world would be even more messed up than it is Now...

[Atb210201]

4 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Atb210201 Getting over it is what breaking free of karma is, its a self trap. They are made up rules the universe dosent care. You caring is making the universe care and thats karma. It hurts God to care.

I think he is saying if you've made a mistake you can get over it and not dwell in the past; it's okay you didn't know much better at that time.

Not that you are allowed to do everything thinking you are going to get over it in the end.

Edited November 19, 2024 by Atb210201

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

I think he is saying if you've made a mistake you can get over it and not dwell in the past; it's okay you didn't know much better at that time.

Not that you are allowed to do everything thinking you are going to get over it in the end.

He says if You can Joyfully Accept the Consequences of any action You take, do whatever You want to do, but if You cannot Joyfully accept the consequences then be mindful of Your actions.. Is this advocating do whatever You want to do? I don't think it does, it just clarifies the karma issue and what it means... It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of anyone elses actions, ppl will still do what they want to do and shit will still happen, that is their Karma to deal with, not for us to judge it too death and suffer it..

[Ishanga]

Without Karma (impressions of residual actions from the past) there would be no Planets, Us, Universe or anything physical, it allows physicality to exist, and because of that we have what we have here on this realm of existence, the game of duality, karma, free will, expression/experience exists for us to play out and choose how to respond to it and be within ourselves...