The Decline of the West | Oswald Spengler

[Nilsi]

5 hours ago, Oeaohoo said:

Oh, you handsome devil…

‘There’s more to life than books, you know, but not much more!’

 

I’ve always thought Morrissey was a whiny loser, oozing an unmistakable castration complex.

This is precisely why I adore Lou Reed so much: even in his most decadent moments, there’s always an undercurrent of the heroic.

 

[Oeaohoo]

15 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I’ve always thought Morrissey was a whiny loser, oozing an unmistakable castration complex.

Of course, he was. And so am I… “They’ve got a name for the winners in the world… I want a name when I lose!”

At the same time, his lyrics are very humorous and his music speaks to a hopelessness which is quite common in English life, especially in the lower classes.

It’s just the antithesis of American-style self-help or Nietzschean vitalism, in which one can never be a victim. 

16 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

This is precisely why I adore Lou Reed so much: even in his most decadent moments, there’s always an undercurrent of the heroic.

Interesting point. The only Velvet Underground song I really like is Candy Says, since I have also come to hate my body and all that it requires in this world…

What do you think I’d see, if I could walk away from me?

[Oeaohoo]

“And when you’re tied to your mother’s apron, no one talks about castration…” — The Queen is Dead

[Nilsi]

9 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

What do you think I’d see, if I could walk away from me?

"In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women." – Tony Montana.

Of course, we might also add drugs. Drugs really help.

Alternatively, you could try being a Marxist - that’ll get you some pussy too.

[Schizophonia]

On 17/11/2024 at 0:56 AM, Hardkill said:

How many of you feel like the end is nigh?

I now feel like I am going to be arrested and imprisoned by the gestapo in Nazi Regime or thrown into the Gulag in Russia just because the fascists in power now can.

Lol.
Are you on steroids, clomid. SSRI or drugs ? 

[Oeaohoo]

3 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

"In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women." – Tony Montana.

Sadly, it’s true…

Though I think there are other ways to get women — “think” being the key word there!

6 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Of course, we might also add drugs. Drugs really help.

How do they help? And what drugs? I have been considering trying 2C-B, since my friend has some.

[Nilsi]

3 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

How do they help? And what drugs? I have been considering trying 2C-B, since my friend has some.

Cigarettes, booze, cocaine - anything that makes you thank the bearded man in the sky for blessing you with this beautiful body to revel in his grand, fucked-up world.

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Cigarettes, booze, cocaine - anything that makes you thank the bearded man in the sky for blessing you with this beautiful body to revel in his grand, fucked-up world.

And me i want to become a fat lesbian black woman.

[Nilsi]

27 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Cigarettes, booze, cocaine - anything that makes you thank the bearded man in the sky for blessing you with this beautiful body to revel in his grand, fucked-up world.

I want to be very clear here: I’m saying this - as fits the topic of this thread - as a good historian, not a metaphysician; though, admittedly, I’m not entirely convinced the two can be disentangled so easily.

I always hate it when Hegel comes back to bite me in the ass, but I suppose such is the fate of the eternal philosopher; or as Derrida so eloquently put it:

“A specter is always a revenant. One cannot control its comings and goings because it begins by coming back. The paradox of spectrality, the specter or the revenant, the ‘thing’ begins by coming back. The spirit of Marx [and by extension Hegel], in a certain sense, is still to come and thus it remains to come. It is never simply a ghost but always already a revenant.”

Edited November 18 by Nilsi

[Oeaohoo]

14 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

And me i want to become a fat lesbian black woman.

Don’t we all?

7 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I want to be very clear here: I’m saying this - as fits the topic of this thread - as a good historian, not a metaphysician. 

Hard drugs are required to survive through the Spenglerian, civilisational winter!

18 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

Cigarettes, booze, cocaine - anything that makes you thank the bearded man in the sky for blessing you with this beautiful body to revel in his grand, fucked-up world.

This reminds me of the poem by Baudelaire:

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You have to be always drunk. That’s all there is to it—it’s the only way. So as not to feel the horrible burden of time that breaks your back and bends you to the earth, you have to be continually drunk.

But on what? Wine, poetry or virtue, as you wish. But be drunk.

And if sometimes, on the steps of a palace or the green grass of a ditch, in the mournful solitude of your room, you wake again, drunkenness already diminishing or gone, ask the wind, the wave, the star, the bird, the clock, everything that is flying, everything that is groaning, everything that is rolling, everything that is singing, everything that is speaking . . . ask what time it is and wind, wave, star, bird, clock will answer you: “It is time to be drunk! So as not to be the martyred slaves of time, be drunk, be continually drunk! On wine, on poetry or on virtue as you wish.”

[Breakingthewall]

55 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

"In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women." – Tony Montana.

Of course, we might also add drugs. Drugs really help.

Alternatively, you could try being a Marxist - that’ll get you some pussy too.

At high levels, Western, and human in general society is psychotic. It is evil 😅. but it seems to be the most efficient way to expand, to develop human potential. The development is brutal, the push is unstoppable. Ego, narcissism ,greed, excessive and psychotic ambition are tools of reality to create at this moment. At another time it was tribal identity, conquest, honor, war as a way of life from childhood, another kind of psychosis. In the future things may be different, let's see what kind of psychosis bring the chinese

Edited November 18 by Breakingthewall

[Nilsi]

3 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

Hard drugs are required to survive through the Spenglerian, civilisational winter!

 

4 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

This reminds me of the poem by Baudelaire:

Lovely.

[Oeaohoo]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

In the future things may be different, let's see what kind of psychosis bring the chinese

This made me laugh. 

I expect it will be a psychosis of extreme, ant-like conformity. On that note, I saw a close up of an ant’s face recently. It was horrifying.

Very devilish… I bet you he is a Trump voter!

Edited November 18 by Oeaohoo

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Oeaohoo said:

This made me laugh. 

Fanatic religion is another psychosis quite psycho that was very important in the past. Well, still some Muslims are attached to that psychosis. All or at least a lot of the human movement as an entity is created by psychotic impulses 😅

Edited November 18 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

Maybe the decline of the west is the beginning of some positive change, maybe not. the industrial west has been aggressive and downright psychopathic. absolutely indifferent to suffering, slavery, racism and war out of narcissism, the desire to be better than the other, to have power. but it is normal, since before the industrial era the way of relating between two groups was wars and rape their women, or directly genocide, all the humans. then with that roots, it's good enough now. 

Edited November 18 by Breakingthewall

[Oeaohoo]

53 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I want to be very clear here: I’m saying this - as fits the topic of this thread - as a good historian, not a metaphysician; though, admittedly, I’m not entirely convinced the two can be disentangled so easily.

They can’t, because history is a manifestation of metaphysical principles.

53 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I always hate it when Hegel comes back to bite me in the ass, but I suppose such is the fate of the eternal philosopher;

The connection between history and metaphysics is much older than Hegel. It is found in every spiritual tradition. Hegel just secularised the Christian idea of providence. Like Nietzsche said, especially in Beyond Good and Evil, most of Western philosophy since Descartes is just secularised Christianity.

53 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

“A specter is always a revenant. One cannot control its comings and goings because it begins by coming back. The paradox of spectrality, the specter or the revenant, the ‘thing’ begins by coming back. The spirit of Marx [and by extension Hegel], in a certain sense, is still to come and thus it remains to come. It is never simply a ghost but always already a revenant.”

Maybe it is just some irrational English ancestral memory, but I have always detested this pretentious French style, which says so little with so much. All of these writers just make the same point over and over: namely, that our concepts aren’t accurate because they imply a falsely fixed reality — a point which Nietzsche had already made in a much more exciting way. Why not just make that point and be done with it?

Like Marxism, it is the kind of philosophy which is designed to be attractive to women. This makes sense since, as I understand it, philosophers in France are treated like celebrities. Tolstoy said: “For the French a woman comes before anything else. They are a weak, degraded people. Doctors say that all consumptives are sensual."

I believe that women are rarely interested in the truth, in the spirit of this aphorism of Nietzsche:

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Among women - "Truth? Oh, you don't know truth, do you? Isn't it an assault on all our modesties?"

Edited November 18 by Oeaohoo

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