Can someone summarize the RSD-Culture for me?

[Zen LaCroix]

As for RSD Max, RSD Derek and RSD Ozzie. What they don't tell you about the RSD culture between instructors and students is that a lot of the instructors look down on the students. They find your approach anxiety annoying to deal with. Also dealing with the company back then things have changes recently but in the past once you paid for a service say a bootcamp the customer service went to absolute shit. It would be easy to contact people and to speak to someone to buy a bootcamp but once you did it was like you couldn't find a person to speak to. The bootcamps are also not worth the money at all. You are seriously better off getting a wing who has good game

Edited 22 hours ago by Zen LaCroix

[Zen LaCroix]

RSD Derek showed up late. He looked down on us, didn't respect us and yelled at people. He spent so much time talking and he and his assistants left us to our own devices in the club. And if you asked for help they acted like you were bothering them. They pretty much lied to us up until the day before the bootcamp about there only being 3 students. I was shocked to find 11 students. And a bunch of other instructors. 

The energy was very cult like and they were all copying his personality too. Very weird. And if you asked a question that they thought was stupid it was very clear they were looking down on you. I thought it was weird they were acting this way since I spent $2500 dollars. We barely spent time in the club. I was hoping for someone to be by my side helping me to approach but no

Derek was also trying to sell more bootcamps

Edited 6 hours ago by Zen LaCroix

[Zen LaCroix]

RSD Ozzie was not a cool guy and his game wasn’t good. But his fear technology theory worked on some level. Approaching a girl in the largest group in the club can help desensitize you. It worked for me on the bootcamp. But he wanted me to stay with the girl for 2 minutes. I would get rejected after a few seconds at times and so I would walk away. He kept saying stay in for 2 minutes. But I had adrenaline gushing through me from that bootcamp from approaching big groups

But Ozzie lacks social skills and is not a cool guy that gets a lot of girls. That was obvious even for me. He was giving me bad advice to keep a massive fake smile across my face. He also didn’t like to do the bootcamps I could see. It was just a job for him and approach anxiety in students annoyed him

[Zen LaCroix]

At the free tour in 2024 they were selling bootcamps for $5,000. And Owen made it clear RSD is alive and well. They reel you in with wanting to see Owen but he shows up late. I did miss one day but on the first day he showed up two hour after the event started and Ibrahim was running it and on the last day he didn’t speak until 3:45 am and that was only for an hour. We waited that long to hear him talk. 

I remember on the first day Owen was telling us stuff that would never make it on a YouTube video and It was good stuff

They make people come to the front of the room. Ibrahim or Owen somewhat dominates them when they are up in the front  which makes them over think and crumbles their body language and voice even more.

I think they know that by dominating you when you come up to the front that its gonna shut you down. When they have you up in the front you are essentially their puppy they can play with

Edited 22 hours ago by Zen LaCroix

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, AION said:

Owen regularly talks about Julien Gate and he still frames it as them being victims of culture change.

So cringe

[Leo Gura]

RSD uses their male customers the same way they use women.

When you are dealing with PUAs you are fundamentally dealing with people of low character, integrity, and truthfulness.

Edited 17 hours ago by Leo Gura

[DEV]

When you guys say JulienGate, you're talking about Julien Blanc, right? 

[Leo Gura]

@DEV This:

 

[MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI]

On 11/18/2024 at 10:43 AM, Leo Gura said:

Well, yeah, in-field video is legally suspect. You are filming girls without consent. Pretty sure that is illegal in plenty of places.

JulienGate drew alot of scrutiny on RSD. JulienGate is basically why Owen had to even ditch the RSD name. The RSD brand name itself became toxic. So it was more than just in-field. And most of Owen's videos did not have in-field. Public in-field video came pretty lame in RSD history.

So is candid photography. It is not illegal. Even when you enter a store you are video taped without your consent.

[Kid A]

36 minutes ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

So is candid photography. It is not illegal. Even when you enter a store you are video taped without your consent.

Stores are legally required to inform that the location is under surveillance. There should be signs indicating this.

Edited 6 hours ago by Kid A

[Consept]

46 minutes ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

So is candid photography. It is not illegal. Even when you enter a store you are video taped without your consent.

It's a bit gray area because you can't really film without consent if you're going to publish, you need release forms otherwise you could get sued. Usually in-fields blur the faces which in theory I guess would be on the right side if legality but it's still a bit morally dubious as their voices are usually clear as well as any identifying marks, they have no idea they're being filmed and in some cases they could be quite compromising situations. So it's not completely clean hence the backlash 

[AION]

Back in the day they would just film ladies being seduced by RSD instructors, and the ladies going home with the instructors. And they would put the unblurred videos of the women's face on youtube. Just imagine being a chick and feeling horny. You go out and you get served. And the next day you log on to youtube and you see yourself on youtube for the whole world to see. 😅 Those ingame videos were so good for learning though. Unfortunate they are nowhere to be found, not even on torrent sites.

Edited 5 hours ago by AION

[Consept]

3 hours ago, AION said:

Back in the day they would just film ladies being seduced by RSD instructors, and the ladies going home with the instructors. And they would put the unblurred videos of the women's face on youtube. Just imagine being a chick and feeling horny. You go out and you get served. And the next day you log on to youtube and you see yourself on youtube for the whole world to see. 😅 Those ingame videos were so good for learning though. Unfortunate they are nowhere to be found, not even on torrent sites.

Yeah it was wild back then, some would even get a camera in the room when they got backed. Imagine the girl watching and theyre breaking down everything your saying, how to counter your points, escalating etc you just thought that was an attractive guy with charisma

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, MAHAVATAR_-_BABAJI said:

So is candid photography. It is not illegal. Even when you enter a store you are video taped without your consent.

That video is not published on YT for profit.

[AION]

57 minutes ago, Consept said:

Yeah it was wild back then, some would even get a camera in the room when they got backed. Imagine the girl watching and theyre breaking down everything your saying, how to counter your points, escalating etc you just thought that was an attractive guy with charisma

In RSD at home program they still some of that footage where Owen just shits all over the girls that he is fucking. Like one girl said she is spiritual and he made fun of her spirituality and then bragged how he fucked her. 😆

[Something Funny]

13 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@DEV This:

 

Was this thing really so big that he was called the most hated man in the world, lol?

[Majed]

@Leo Gura the thing is balance is always important. both extremes are dysfunctional : being a nerd that doesn't understand women and how to attract them is not wanted, and also being a rapist is not wanted either. the ideal is a guy that can approach, make his intentions clear, attract the girl, physically escalates, and know how to sexualize the interaction... and at the end sleep with the girl. all of this take boldness and confidence. which society doesn't really promote or teach. however it is also important to know when to back off when the girl is not interested. seduction is complex. and a lot of approaching will teach you a lot of things about seduction.  

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura I remember you saying a while ago that some of their courses were worth watching if you could find them on torrents. Do you still think so?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Something Funny said:

Was this thing really so big that he was called the most hated man in the world, lol?

He was banned from several countries. Australia and some others.

[Leo Gura]

59 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Leo Gura I remember you saying a while ago that some of their courses were worth watching if you could find them on torrents. Do you still think so?

I said that about Owen's deleted public videos. I didn't say to torrent their courses.