Why Must Life Feed on Life?

[Spiritual Warfare]

We live in a parasitic world governed by a predator-prey dynamic, where every living being must take the life of another conscious being to survive. This reality seems inherently designed for misery and suffering, often referred to as “LOOSH.” What kind of mind would intentionally create a reality like this?

 

[Ishanga]

22 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

We live in a parasitic world governed by a predator-prey dynamic, where every living being must take the life of another conscious being to survive. This reality seems inherently designed for misery and suffering, often referred to as “LOOSH.” What kind of mind would intentionally create a reality like this?

 

Your coming into all these questions You are asking with pre conceived notions of the qualities of Absolute/God or Creator, You will never come to any sort of soothing answers for Yourself with this sort of Mind You have.. 

Humans have the most choice out of all the life forms, we can "kill" only enough for us to survive, not like we are doing now when we kill for pleasure of sorts and all kinds of distortions, but we are not choose anything when we are unconscious of our true nature.. 

God/Absolute just set up the playing field, don't ask "Why" because no one knows Why it is like this, it just is, and it is not so cruel, it is the way of the strongest survives, if the weakest survived then all species would perish quickly, so its set up for the plants to be eaten by another creature and for that creature to be eaten by another and so on it goes.. Its Life sacrificing for other life to flourish, but most all other life does not have the choice capability that we have, we have it but are neglecting to use it, hence we have Humans living below Animal Nature which is Tragic on its own right...

[Breakingthewall]

34 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

We live in a parasitic world governed by a predator-prey dynamic, where every living being must take the life of another conscious being to survive. This reality seems inherently designed for misery and suffering, often referred to as “LOOSH.” What kind of mind would intentionally create a reality like this?

 

Seems that this is the best way to create. The life has only one creator, life itself, not anyone external who decides how to do the things, then the life is itself creator impulse. The fight for survival seems a good way to create. Who cares about the suffering? It's just a tool to create, it's nothing important, only creating is important. If you totally remove the treats for a living beings, they would return to the bacteria. The creation is maintained by the fight. Probably in the case of the humans, a kind of singularity is going to arrive to move to other dimension. What dimension? That's the interesting point: one that still doesn't exist, and never has existed, because life is actual, now, creating, opening path in the infinite potential

Edited Friday at 11:50 PM by Breakingthewall

[Spiritual Warfare]

35 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Your coming into all these questions You are asking with pre conceived notions of the qualities of Absolute/God or Creator, You will never come to any sort of soothing answers for Yourself with this sort of Mind You have.. 

Humans have the most choice out of all the life forms, we can "kill" only enough for us to survive, not like we are doing now when we kill for pleasure of sorts and all kinds of distortions, but we are not choose anything when we are unconscious of our true nature.. 

God/Absolute just set up the playing field, don't ask "Why" because no one knows Why it is like this, it just is, and it is not so cruel, it is the way of the strongest survives, if the weakest survived then all species would perish quickly, so its set up for the plants to be eaten by another creature and for that creature to be eaten by another and so on it goes.. Its Life sacrificing for other life to flourish, but most all other life does not have the choice capability that we have, we have it but are neglecting to use it, hence we have Humans living below Animal Nature which is Tragic on its own right...

I understand what you mean about preconceived notions making it harder to find answers, and I agree that humans have a unique ability to make conscious choices, though we often fail to use it wisely.

That said, I still struggle with the idea of life being designed for ‘the strongest to survive.’ If the system is meant to create balance and allow life to flourish through sacrifice, how do we make sense of the unnecessary suffering, cruelty, and destruction, especially the kind caused by humans?

It makes me wonder, does this reality reflect the intentions of a benevolent Creator, or could we be misunderstanding the purpose entirely? 

 

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

34 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Seems that this is the best way to create. The life has only one creator, life itself, not anyone external who decides how to do the things, then the life is itself creator impulse. The fight for survival seems a good way to create. Who cares about the suffering? It's just a tool to create, it's nothing important, only creating is important. If you totally remove the treats for a living beings, they would return to the bacteria. The creation is maintained by the fight. Probably in the case of the humans, a kind of singularity is going to arrive to move to other dimension. What dimension? That's the interesting point: one that still doesn't exist, and never has existed, because life is actual, now, creating, opening path in the infinite potential

I still have a hard time accepting that suffering is just a tool for creation. It feels like we’re overlooking the pain and harm that so many beings experience. While I understand that survival and struggle are part of life, I can’t help but question if there might be a way to evolve beyond such a harsh cycle.

If life is constantly creating in the present, how do we balance that creation with the need for compassion and understanding in a world full of suffering?

 

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I understand what you mean about preconceived notions making it harder to find answers, and I agree that humans have a unique ability to make conscious choices, though we often fail to use it wisely.

That said, I still struggle with the idea of life being designed for ‘the strongest to survive.’ If the system is meant to create balance and allow life to flourish through sacrifice, how do we make sense of the unnecessary suffering, cruelty, and destruction, especially the kind caused by humans?

It makes me wonder, does this reality reflect the intentions of a benevolent Creator, or could we be misunderstanding the purpose entirely? 

 

 

This is what I am talking about.. There is no "Benevolent Creator", there is no Creator that cares or doesn't care, at the core of Existence/Absolute there is no meaning, things just are...Meaning is further down the rope or layer, its on our level/realm, meaning is self created, and is important at this level of Existence, but there are levels.. Don't think there is something/someone somewhere caring about You or anything, that will lead You to insanity for sure... 

All You need to do is care less about the shit that is going on in the world, and be the best version of yourself, whatever that is and how You see it, I'm sure once You achieve that, your ideas about "Best version" will evolve...this is what it means to be Human and have Desire, once You get something you want more, and more and more, what You want is to be more than what You are right now, ultimately You want to be Boundless and Free, that sounds a bit like Absolute to me..

[Spiritual Warfare]

3 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

All You need to do is care less about the shit that is going on in the world, and be the best version of yourself

Easier said than done, but thank you for your responses.

 

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I still have a hard time accepting that suffering is just a tool for creation. It feels like we’re overlooking the pain and harm that so many beings experience. While I understand that survival and struggle are part of life, I can’t help but question if there might be a way to evolve beyond such a harsh cycle.

If life is constantly creating in the present, how do we balance that creation with the need for compassion and understanding in a world full of suffering?

 

 Beings and death are nothing, existence is everything. Suffering seems bad when you are in it, but it's just a subjective feeling, nothing. It's not that life is treating you bad making you suffer, is that you are the life, and this is your way to move. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

4 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 Beings and death are nothing, existence is everything. Suffering seems bad when you are in it, but it's just a subjective feeling, nothing. It's not that life is treating you bad making you suffer, is that you are the life, and this is your way to move. 

It feels like existence is suffering, but that’s because I don’t trust existence. I don’t know what happens in the next chapter after death, and that uncertainty makes it hard to fully trust the process.

 

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

It feels like existence is suffering, but that’s because I don’t trust existence. I don’t know what happens in the next chapter after death, and that uncertainty makes it hard to fully trust the process.

 

After death its only one thing that could be: existence existing. How? I think that it's impossible to know, there is not a god who knows is, existence just open new paths, it's impossible even imagining how could they be, but it's absolutely sure to know what they are, are you.

[Princess Arabia]

Take the word suffering out of your vocabulary and you will never suffer again. It's that simple. How can there be suffering within your awareness if the word doesn't exist for you. Matter of fact, don't even talk anymore, just be a mute and only speak at a job interview. Then answer questions asked and say please and thank you. That's it. Peace. Done. You'll be the happiest person on earth. Try it. The mind will leave you alone then and vice versa. I might even go that route. It's easier and more serene. Speak when I'm spoken to, answer when I'm called. 

Edited yesterday at 08:44 AM by Princess Arabia

[Something Funny]

@Princess Arabia come on, really?

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Something Funny said:

@Princess Arabia come on, really?

Really.

[Something Funny]

@Princess Arabia is it impossible to make you suffer? do you only talk at job interview?

I have honestly nothing against you personally, and I think you are cool, but I find people sitting on spiritual high horses kind of annoying.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Princess Arabia is it impossible to make you suffer? do you only talk at job interview?

I have honestly nothing against you personally, and I think you are cool, but I find people sitting on spiritual high horses kind of annoying.

Nothing in my post smells spirituality. Show me a spiritual inuendo in my comment. Please quote verbatim. Maybe using the word Awareness, that's it. 

Edited yesterday at 08:51 AM by Princess Arabia

[Something Funny]

10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Take the word suffering out of your vocabulary and you will never suffer again.

 

10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Matter of fact, don't even talk anymore, just be a mute and only speak at a job interview. Then answer questions asked and say please and thank you

Those sound like common spirituality talking points. If you don't consider them to be spirituality related - doesn't matter. I was referring to this, call it whatever you want.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Princess Arabia is it impossible to make you suffer? do you only talk at job interview?

I have honestly nothing against you personally, and I think you are cool, but I find people sitting on spiritual high horses kind of annoying.

It's obvious I was being sarcastic. I hope he doesn't take it as seriously as you did. 

[Something Funny]

@Princess Arabia totally not obvious to me, but okay

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Something Funny said:

 

Those sound like common spirituality talking points. If you don't consider them to be spirituality related - doesn't matter. I was referring to this, call it whatever you want.

Been in Spirituality for about 5-6yrs now, I never heard those comments you quoted from me anywhere amongst spiritual circles.

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Princess Arabia totally not obvious to me, but okay

Maybe if you weren't reading into what you thought I was saying and saw the words at face value for what they are, you would have recognized that I wasn't being serious. 

Edited yesterday at 08:58 AM by Princess Arabia