Leo, Didn't you bet on American people's decency?

[LSD-Rumi]

In one of your blog posts, I recall you predicted that Americans wouldn’t back Trump as strongly as they did in 2016, reasoning that they had a level of decency that would prevent them from electing someone like him again. This speaks volumes about the level of moral and intellectual development of Americans.  People often perceive Americans as selfish nasty and unkind compared to Europeans. Decency was long gone in America.

Edited November 15 by LSD-Rumi

[lostingenosmaze]

I feel this calls for a sequel to Leo's "Mankind Is The Bullshitting Animal". I guess the Leo back then didn't realize how just how deep the bullshittery goes. Personally I would dub it after Leo's recent blogpost: "Humans Are Ignorant And Retarded" 

https://www.actualized.org/insights/some-political-lessons

 

[Leo Gura]

Yes, it's hard to predict the depths of human stupidity.

One wants to be nice and optimistic, but then one is wrong.

Edited November 16 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

47 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, it's hard to predict the depths of human stupidity.

One wants to be nice and optimistic, but then one is wrong.

So, why should we be hopeful about anything now, considering that we are now all doomed to misery for probably the rest of our lives?

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, why should we be hopeful about anything now, considering that we are now all doomed to misery for probably the rest of our lives?

Because stupidity and selfishness is self-defeating.

You don't need to destroy Trumpism, it will destroy itself from sheer incoherence.

[Hardkill]

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because stupidity and selfishness is self-defeating.

You don't need to destroy Trumpism, it will destroy itself from sheer incoherence.

I ge that, but aren’t the effects of Trumpism going last until we’ve all passed away? 
 

I don’t want to die as a miserable old man having lived through an apocalyptic era.

Edited November 16 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

I don’t want to die as a miserable old man having lived through an apocalyptic era.

Why not?

Being miserable is optional.

Your grandparents survived WW2. You can handle 4 years of clownery.

Edited November 16 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Why not?

Being miserable is optional.

How can I not be miserable when at least a third of the country, even including people like me, could eventually be persecuted beyond what we can even begin to imagine by the tyranny of Trump, MAGA, and corporate-fascism just because they can?

I am now so paranoid that I really think that I may need to buy a lethal weapon and armor to protect myself.

Edited November 16 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

@Hardkill Dude, focus on your life purpose.

Don't get distracted by human noise.

This is life lesson #1.

Go create something beautiful.

Edited November 16 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

27 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Why not?

Being miserable is optional.

Your grandparents survived WW2. You can handle 4 years of clownery.

17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Hardkill Dude, focus on your life purpose.

Don't get distracted by human noise.

This is life lesson #1.

Go create something beautiful.

If this clownery only lasts for 4 years. 

but what if he never really leaves office and MAGA rules our country for the rest of our lives because of their terrifying newfound power?

How will I be able to even work on my life purpose if I get arrested and thrown into prison by the police under Trump's authority for no good reason?

[Leo Gura]

@Hardkill Focus!

You are losing your poise.

[Joshe]

12 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

How will I be able to even work on my life purpose if I get arrested and thrown into prison by the police under Trump's authority for no good reason?

In the unlikely event it would ever come to this, I think it would be many years down the road. You have time. 

It doesn't make sense to succumb to negativity of the things that are out of our control. It doesn't make sense to keep feeding the negative emotions when there's a lot of work to do. 

My plan is to continue as planned, but with more vigor. With Trump and AGI potentially showing up in a 2-3 years, I've got a lot of fucking work to do. If anything, this should light a fire under your ass. 

Edited November 16 by Joshe

[Socrates]

@Leo Gura Is he?

It is easy to armchair philosophize but when the rubber meets the road and your freedoms are at stake, only action can save you.

 America could EASILY become an autocracy in the next 4 years since there aren't any legal guardrails to prevent it.

His concern is more than valid. 

It is easy to speak against the status quo in a democracy, it isn't so in a dictatorship since they line you up and kill you.

Dont forget many Western countries that are now considered developed have dealt with fascism and dictatorships not even 50 years ago.

 

[whh2222]

1 hour ago, Socrates said:

@Leo Gura Is he?

It is easy to armchair philosophize but when the rubber meets the road and your freedoms are at stake, only action can save you.

 America could EASILY become an autocracy in the next 4 years since there aren't any legal guardrails to prevent it.

His concern is more than valid. 

It is easy to speak against the status quo in a democracy, it isn't so in a dictatorship since they line you up and kill you.

Dont forget many Western countries that are now considered developed have dealt with fascism and dictatorships not even 50 years ago.

 

The poster you speak of is spiraling in negative thoughts. Whether his concerns are truly valid, that is objectively unproductive.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Socrates said:

Is he?

Isn't he?

[Buck Edwards]

2 hours ago, Socrates said:

@Leo Gura Is he?

It is easy to armchair philosophize but when the rubber meets the road and your freedoms are at stake, only action can save you.

 America could EASILY become an autocracy in the next 4 years since there aren't any legal guardrails to prevent it.

His concern is more than valid. 

It is easy to speak against the status quo in a democracy, it isn't so in a dictatorship since they line you up and kill you.

Dont forget many Western countries that are now considered developed have dealt with fascism and dictatorships not even 50 years ago.

 

The constitution must prevent Trump from a third term. No? 

[Fearey]

1 hour ago, Buck Edwards said:

The constitution must prevent Trump from a third term. No? 

It didn't prevent him from attempting to ceise the country for himself. In many ways the system "rewarded" his behavior, as he's not currently spending the rest of his life in jail.

Who knows what he'll do this time around, knowing he can violate everything he's sworn to protect and uphold with no consequences.

Edited November 16 by Fearey

[Rafael Thundercat]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes, it's hard to predict the depths of human stupidity.

One wants to be nice and optimistic, but then one is wrong.

Althougt you talk and write to humans, dont you feel sometimes that the more conscious one becomes easy and paradoxly harder is to communicate with humans. For me for example I basically just listen to my relatives for social education. The percentage of wisdom I would get from listening then equal the percentage I get by listening dogs barking. 

[Dabidoe]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Hardkill Dude, focus on your life purpose.

Don't get distracted by human noise.

This is life lesson #1.

Go create something beautiful.

Well said. I wish people would see politics as the mind virus it is. 

I lived through 4 years of trump, my hair didn't catch fire. I lived through 3.75 years of Biden and turned out fine.

At the end of the day there are checks and balances and many intelligent people in government that will self right the ship.

[LSD-Rumi]

18 minutes ago, Dabidoe said:

Well said. I wish people would see politics as the mind virus it is. 

You do politics good or ignore it all together