Existence is not limitless.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Dreams have boundaries. You can’t fully control yourself, and you can’t choose when to end the dream or not.

[ChrisZoZo]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Dreams have boundaries. You can’t fully control yourself, and you can’t choose when to end the dream or not.

How does this relate to existence is not limited.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, ChrisZoZo said:

How does this relate to existence is not limited.

Because dreams are death.

[ChrisZoZo]

2 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

5 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

How does this relate to existence is not limited.

Because dreams are death.

I need more explanation 

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, ChrisZoZo said:

I need more explanation 

I have become aware that the ego dies when we dream, and apparently the soul, or whatever one might call it, leaves the body. And we all know that when we are not the ego, we are not limited, but dreams deny this.

[ChrisZoZo]

I’m more confused 

[B222]

The soul feels there. Awareness is there. But obv agree we have no control over dreams, or even life maybe? Maybe to some extent but I think dreams further confirm that there are forces beyond us in control more than our little selves like to imagine. The light and the dark? 🤷🏻‍♂️ feels that way. Good dreams bad dreams. Good experiences bad experiences. 

[Spiritual Warfare]

1 minute ago, ChrisZoZo said:

I’m more confused 

I’m sad to hear that.

[Spiritual Warfare]

5 minutes ago, B222 said:

The soul feels there. Awareness is there. But obv agree we have no control over dreams, or even life maybe? Maybe to some extent but I think dreams further confirm that there are forces beyond us in control more than our little selves like to imagine. The light and the dark? 🤷🏻‍♂️ feels that way. Good dreams bad dreams. Good experiences bad experiences. 

Something feels off about life, and I don’t believe there are other forces controlling us, but it just feels like existence has no logic. Because of that, everything seems as if we are being punished or messed with.

[Atb210201]

Appearances are not limitless.

That which does not appear or disappear is.

Which is pure existence with no shape or form.

[Razard86]

1 hour ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

I have become aware that the ego dies when we dream, and apparently the soul, or whatever one might call it, leaves the body. And we all know that when we are not the ego, we are not limited, but dreams deny this.

I've taken my ego with me into dreams, and I have ended dreams before as well, and I have also taken control of dreams before as well (day dreaming). So it depends on the dream. All dreams are not the same.

Edited Thursday at 11:45 PM by Razard86

[Hojo]

@Spiritual Warfare I don't think ego dies when you dream. Alot of time we dream about things we know and people we know or events we have experienced. If you think ego dies and you go infinite when you dream the chances of you dreaming of something you have experienced or a person you know would be almost 0. The chances that you dreamt you were a piece of dirt just existing would go up exponentially.

When you go infinite you go infinite. There is nothing resembling what you are right now.

Ego is not there in deep sleep.

Every thing you do and see in reality is a simulation this void is doing.

Even your breathing is made up. You don't experience breathe when you are in deep sleep or dream.

Edited Friday at 01:47 AM by Hojo

[creativepursuit]

4 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

ego dies when we dream, and apparently the soul, or whatever one might call it, leaves the body

When you wake up, don't you remember the dream in your waking state? 
If there was no awareness at the time of the dream, how is it possible to remember what happened?

And the deep sleep that is after dreaming is not the absence of experience, it's the experience of absence.

[James123]

15 hours ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

Dreams have boundaries. You can’t fully control yourself, and you can’t choose when to end the dream or not.

The funny thing is, "control or controlling" is limited action itself.

Limitless action is oppositely completely letting go and surrendering.

Falling of cliff. 

[Evelyna]

@Razard86 I agree, I often become lucid within the dream, aware, its not up to me which dream I become aware of, but I also have rewinded dreams, paused dreams, moved objects, went flying, jumped from one dream to another.  What I did notice is that I have zero doubts within the dream , it is almost like you think of something and it happens instantly but you don't analyse what happened, there's no questioning of bizarre things that are happening, it just is, this happens, then next thing happens and so on, they only seem to be bizarre when I wake up and recall the dream  So I think some parts of our perception and evaluation work in slightly different way in the dream. Also the memory of the dreams feels just like any other memory you would have, it's a fun exercise to recall a memory of an event that took place in waking life and then recall memory of a dream you can remember , both re call identically, like a real event,  meaning a memory of a dream is exactly the same as memory of waking life events, isn't that interesting ?