You Are Not Existence. Existence Is Appearing Within You.

[Princess Arabia]

Existence doesn't exist without a perceiver. Existence means it comes and goes. Ever changing. Beingness (you) is changeless. Beingness does not arise and subside as a perceived object. Beingness perceives the appearance and disappearance of all objects. EXISTENCE ONLY APPEARS. It is not who you are. It is being perceived by you, the SELF. You cannot know the Self; you can only BE the Self. 

All things within existence comes and goes while you remain. No object has any beingness on it's own. They appear momentarily within beingness. They appear momentarily within you. They do not exist without you - BEINGNESS. 

The mind and body is also being perceived by you. They also come and go, while you remain. Existence and Beingness are not the same. We experience existence while beingness (who you are), perceives these experiences. 

The changeless perceiver is the reflection of the eternal reality (birthless, deathless, imperceivable) inside the realm of impermanence (birth and death). Beingness is not a concept. It is beyond concepts. It is the perceiver of concepts.

All experiences are empty void of any beingness. They only appear to exist on their own. Have you ever experienced anything without BEING present. They depend on you. You do not depend on them. Without you they cannot exist, but you exist without them. Existence is not beingness. Existence is being perceived by being.

 

[Spiritual Warfare]

I think the concept of existence as separate from the self creates an unnecessary divide. From my experience, existence doesn’t exist independently of me, I am existence. Every moment of awareness, every perception, is an act of existence. The world is not something I simply observe from a distance, it is something I am immersed in, a part of my being. There is no ‘outside world’ that exists apart from my consciousness of it. My thoughts, my senses, and my awareness all converge into this experience of being. There is no line between me and existence because I am existence itself. This isn’t just a mental concept, but a direct experience of being.

 

 

[Princess Arabia]

17 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

but a direct experience of being.

You said it right here. Experience. Experiences comes and goes, doesn't it. Are all experiences the same, no. What I'm saying is all experiences are on borrowed time, they cannot exist without you, like you said but they are forever changing. ARE YOU??????

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

You said it right here. Experience. Experiences comes and goes, doesn't it. Are all experiences the same, no. What I'm saying is all experiences are on borrowed time, they cannot exist without you, like you said but they are forever changing. ARE YOU??????

What I’m getting at is that being, that sense of awareness, isn’t changing in the same way. We might experience different things, but that awareness of being is always present, no matter what’s happening around us. It’s not something that comes and goes with the experiences, it’s the constant that allows all those experiences to unfold.

 

 

[Princess Arabia]

24 minutes ago, James123 said:

Wrong. What is the differences between you and existence?

Depends on what you consider to be "you". If you think you are the human body, then there's no difference. If you are the awareness of the body, the one that is aware of the body, then the difference is the changeless and the changeful.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

What I’m getting at is that being, that sense of awareness, isn’t changing in the same way. We might experience different things, but that awareness of being is always present, no matter what’s happening around us. It’s not something that comes and goes with the experiences, it’s the constant that allows all those experiences to unfold.

 

 

Hence my post. Nothing real ever changes.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

It’s not something that comes and goes with the experiences,

The experiences comes and goes within it.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

What I’m getting at is that being, that sense of awareness, isn’t changing in the same way

It doesn't change at all.

[Spiritual Warfare]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Hence my post. Nothing real ever changes.

In a way, yes, the core of who we are doesn’t really change. The awareness or being is always there, even when everything around us shifts. But, at the same time, the experiences we go through and how we perceive them do change. It’s like everything around us moves, but that deeper sense of ‘being’ stays the same, like a constant undercurrent.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Spiritual Warfare said:

In a way, yes, the core of who we are doesn’t really change. The awareness or being is always there, even when everything around us shifts. But, at the same time, the experiences we go through and how we perceive them do change. It’s like everything around us moves, but that deeper sense of ‘being’ stays the same, like a constant undercurrent.

I get that. What I'm pointing to is that who you truly are is none of that. Saying "the core of who we are", then believing you are something else is like saying the apple is different from it's core.

You're saying the exact same thing I'm saying in my post, it just seems you're identifying with the experiences and the changing thinking they are also you.

[Evelyna]

@Princess Arabia so in short - existence is what is observed, while beingness is the part of you that observes  Your true self goes beyond thoughts and feelings—it sees them. 

💕💕

[Princess Arabia]

There is nothing said in my post that will bring about any changes in what's appearing, will appear or will ever appear. The difference is the ultimate identification of what you believe yourself to be. If you truly understand this and recognize this, and embody this as a played character the changes within the character and the experiences the character experiences will change automatically on their own within the appearance of existence. You are only experiencing what you're experiencing because of what you identify as. Within the dream/illusion where things are ever changing, the way you experience the changeful existence will be different. It doesn't matter what appears, the experience of it varies from character to character. 

What I'm ultimately saying is the character is not who you are. Who you are is what's perceiving the character. They are not separate but it's still not who you are. Picture a pregnant mother. The unborn child and the mother aren't separate. Without the mother the fetus wouldn't exist, they are still one, but the mother is still not the unborn child. Without you experience would not exist, You exist prior to experience even the experience of a body/mind.

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Evelyna said:

@Princess Arabia so in short - existence is what is observed, while beingness is the part of you that observes  Your true self goes beyond thoughts and feelings—it sees them. 

💕💕

Beingness is not the part of you that observes. Beingness is you, it is who you are. There is no part of you that observes. This pronoun "you", is the tricky part. You = beingness. The "you" (person, human) is who you think you are. 

Being perceives.

You are not sensing anything and you are not perceiving anything, it only appears that way,

Edited November 14, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Spiritual Warfare]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Picture a pregnant mother. The unborn child and the mother aren't separate. Without the mother the fetus wouldn't exist, they are still one, but the mother is still not the unborn child.

So, according to your logic, that means you’re not God. While you both come from the same source, you’re still separate. 

 

 

[Evelyna]

@Princess Arabia I think I find the word beingness problematic in understanding your point, its synonyms include being and existence, English isn't my first language and sometimes I have to still look up some words. Thanks for explaining I see your point now. 

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

So, according to your logic, that means you’re not God. While you both come from the same source, you’re still separate. 

 

 

These are word semantics. God is a consept. I'm speaking about who/what I truly am. Call it God if you like, I like the word God too. But it's not the real pointer. There is no source. It's all just appearing. Call it source if you like. There is no separation. There is no me to be separate from anything. It's all the same; being perceived by the one perceiver.

Edited November 14, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

These are word semantics. God is a consept. I'm speaking about who/what I truly am. Call it God if you like, I like the word God too. But it's not the real pointer. There is no source. It's all just appearing. Call it source if you like. There is no separation. There is no me to be separate from anything. It's all the same being perceived by the one perceiver.

You said in your hypothesis that the unborn child and the mother are separate.

[PurpleTree]

The term "isness" isn’t too bad.

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, Spiritual Warfare said:

You said in your hypothesis that the unborn child and the mother are separate.

"The unborn child and the mother aren't separate". Those were my exact words verbatim. Read it again.

[Spiritual Warfare]

29 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

but the mother is still not the unborn child.