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8 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Wait, are you guys saying that most Americans no longer care about democracy, freedoms, or rights anymore?!

The majority of Americans actually now want a dictator to rule the country like Hitler, Putin, or Viktor Orban?!

Worse than that.

I’m saying many of them never really did care.

They only got democracy because they inherited it from those who came before them that did care.

Authoritarianism is the more natural state.

I’ve never really thought of myself as patriotic. I never really cared to sing America’s praises. In college, you could find me head banging to Rage Against the Machine and reading about socialism. I had many criticisms of America.

So you would think that when an actual authoritarian threat like Trump comes around, people who love to think of themselves as patriots would be the first to fight against him. After all, isn’t democracy our top value? Isn’t democracy what makes us actually great? What separates us from the rest of the world? The thing we’ve been saying we care so much about for 200 years?

But no.

They mostly do not give a shit. They want what they want, and they will throw democracy out to get it if they have to.

This is why a lot of the messaging that liberals put out about Trump being a threat to democracy landed flat. The average American is not developed enough to care about that.


 

 

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He is appointing so many warmongering loonies, the deepest of the deep swamp. It's bad.

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1 hour ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

No offense but you are being very foolish. I know personally RFK Jr. for a long while and he is a decent and extremely intelligent individual. He knows about vaccines much more than you can even imagine and he is well versed in science by the way. And he has people behind him who are genius. Indeed I am personally thinking to board the ship and come to help out.

I asked ChatGPT if vaccines cause autism: 
"No, vaccines do not cause autism. Numerous studies have shown no link between vaccines and autism. The claim that vaccines are related to autism originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998, which has since been retracted due to serious ethical violations and methodological flaws. Major health organizations, including the CDC, WHO, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, support the safety and importance of vaccines in preventing serious diseases."

So much for that "science" and those "people behind him who are genius"...  

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21 minutes ago, Kid A said:

I asked ChatGPT if vaccines cause autism: 
"No, vaccines do not cause autism. Numerous studies have shown no link between vaccines and autism. The claim that vaccines are related to autism originated from a now-discredited study published in 1998, which has since been retracted due to serious ethical violations and methodological flaws. Major health organizations, including the CDC, WHO, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, support the safety and importance of vaccines in preventing serious diseases."

So much for that "science" and those "people behind him who are genius"...  

Thank you very much. Can you please sent me a study that shows if does not cause autism. If such claim is really out there, I am sure it should be a no brainer if such theory is debunked.

However, we sent an email to CDC asking for such studies but they sent me a letter stating that they don’t have such. So please if you have sent me my way.

And are you using chatGPT to do all thinking for you even how to ask a girl out? 
 

please watch this video by an attorney speaking to house committee 

https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/aaron-siri-gives-testimony-on-the-floor-of-arizona-state-senate/

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57 minutes ago, aurum said:

I’ve never really thought of myself as patriotic. I never really cared to sing America’s praises. In college, you could find me head banging to Rage Against the Machine and reading about socialism. I had many criticisms of America.

So you would think that when an actual authoritarian threat like Trump comes around, people who love to think of themselves as patriots would be the first to fight against him. After all, isn’t democracy our top value? Isn’t democracy what makes us actually great? What separates us from the rest of the world? The thing we’ve been saying we care so much about for 200 years?

Would it be fair to recognize there's been somewhat of a flip in the parties' values? Maybe not a perfect 1:1 swap, but hasn't something changed between the time of the Bush-era conservative and now, with an equal-yet-opposite change on the left?

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22 minutes ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

Thank you very much. Can you please sent me a study that shows if does not cause autism. If such claim is really out there, I am sure it should be a no brainer if such theory is debunked.

Dont even pretend that you can engage with the studies , but given this response of yours shows how you havent done 5 seconds of research on this topic.

Its a consensus position that there is no connection between vaccines and autism. You can engage with the links shared on the wiki page.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccines_and_autism

Extensive investigation into vaccines and autism spectrum disorder[1] has shown that there is no relationship between the two, causal or otherwise,[1][2][3] and that vaccine ingredients do not cause autism.

I know, i know wikipedia and all the studies shared on that wiki page was written by the deepstate - we cant trust them.

22 minutes ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

And are you using chatGPT to do all thinking for you even how to ask a girl out? 

No, we are using RFK jr as a source of truth and treat his words as gospel.

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25 minutes ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

please watch this video by an attorney speaking to house committee 

https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/aaron-siri-gives-testimony-on-the-floor-of-arizona-state-senate/

Much nonsense occurs on that floor. For example, Christians speaking in tongues and praying that their laws to restrict women's rights to choose are successful.

 

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If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

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11 minutes ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

Thank you very much. Can you please sent me a study that shows if does not cause autism. If such claim is really out there, I am sure it should be a no brainer if such theory is debunked.

However, we sent an email to CDC asking for such studies but they sent me a letter stating that they don’t have such. So please if you have sent me my way.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12421889/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23545349/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24814559/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30831578/

 

20 minutes ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

And are you using chatGPT to do all thinking for you even how to ask a girl out? 

Nah, I don't need Chat for that, but I'd probably prefer it to you and RFK here too!

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37 minutes ago, What Am I said:

Would it be fair to recognize there's been somewhat of a flip in the parties' values? Maybe not a perfect 1:1 swap, but hasn't something changed between the time of the Bush-era conservative and now, with an equal-yet-opposite change on the left?

No. There has been no fundamental value flip. It was always this way.


 

 

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3 minutes ago, aurum said:

No. There has been no fundamental value flip. It was always this way.

Come to think of it, you're right. Additionally, Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

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2 hours ago, Kid A said:

Thank you by the way, that’s a very productive conversation by showing proper sources. I did look at all of them and all of them actually relate to only one danish study, see link, https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-2101. It’s the same one you sent but the entire study is available here. So all four links relate to this study.
 

See my only beef with this study is that it was sponsored by Novo Nordisk Foundation and research completed by Danish vaccine maker Statens Serum Institute. So it’s the vaccine makers who made a study and not independent research group, so that’s issue one. 
 

But did you read the study in full, it shows autism rate 1 in 100? That’s insane for newly born kids?

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1 hour ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

See my only beef with this study is that it was sponsored by Novo Nordisk Foundation and research completed by Danish vaccine maker Statens Serum Institute. So it’s the vaccine makers who made a study and not independent research group, so that’s issue one. 

1) Very deep engagement with the study , you very much pointed out the deep issues with the study itself and you didn't just side-stepped it with "but sponsors though".   Whats the evidence that there is a conflict of interest there?  After you establish that, we will wait for you pointing out specific issues with the study itself because surely you don't think pointing out a conflict of interest will be sufficient for you to establish that there was problem with the methodology, right?

2) Dont run away from your original claim where you implied that vaccines cause autism. Even if the guy cant present you any evidence that they don't cause autism that will be still a far cry from you establishing that they do .

3) Of course you didnt engage with the link I sent you , where on the wiki page there are a fuck ton of studies  that all conclude the same -  they do not cause autism. 

1 hour ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

But did you read the study in full, it shows autism rate 1 in 100? That’s insane for newly born kids?

How is that insane for kids, and whats your evidence that it is caused by vaccines?

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1 hour ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

Thank you by the way, that’s a very productive conversation by showing proper sources. I did look at all of them and all of them actually relate to only one danish study, see link, https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M18-2101. It’s the same one you sent but the entire study is available here. So all four links relate to this study.
 

See my only beef with this study is that it was sponsored by Novo Nordisk Foundation and research completed by Danish vaccine maker Statens Serum Institute. So it’s the vaccine makers who made a study and not independent research group, so that’s issue one. 

This only applies to two of the studies (numbers 1 and 4) and they really are separate studies. The first one examined data from over 500 000 children, while the fourth one examined data from over 650 000 children, using different datasets and methodologies. The second study is a nationwide study from the US. The third study includes data from several countries, not just Denmark. It's not specified that it was funded by a specific vaccine manufacturer or foundation...

1 hour ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

But did you read the study in full, it shows autism rate 1 in 100? That’s insane for newly born kids?

https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/autism-spectrum-disorders-(asd) 
Looks like the WHO has the same numbers. 

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not a fan of trump either but hating on trump is lowkey dumb

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On 11/14/2024 at 1:48 PM, Leo Gura said:

it's all the degenerates in his orbit.

why the degenerate hate.

they're byproduct and opposing reflection side of you 

 

as in live - evil

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Trump appoints TV celebrity Dr. Oz to head up CMS, an agency responsible for overseeing Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) for more than one hundred million Americans, as well as implementing policies to ensure access to healthcare, managing healthcare spending, and improving program efficiency.

Implications of Dr. Oz’s lack of experience in managing large federal healthcare programs:

  1. Policy and Operational Challenges: Without relevant experience, he may struggle to navigate the complexities of healthcare policy, potentially leading to inefficiencies or mismanagement in administering these vital programs.
  2. Increased Influence of Ideology or Personal Bias: A lack of expertise might make him more reliant on advisors, lobbyists, or political ideologies rather than evidence-based decision-making, potentially skewing policies toward special interests.
  3. Impact on Beneficiaries: Mismanagement or poorly informed policy decisions could disrupt access to healthcare for millions of Americans who depend on these programs, particularly vulnerable populations like seniors, low-income families, and children.
  4. Undermined Credibility of CMS: Appointing someone without relevant experience may erode trust in the agency’s ability to fulfill its mission, both among the public and healthcare professionals.
  5. Potential for Controversy: Dr. Oz's celebrity status and history of promoting controversial or unproven health remedies could draw scrutiny and criticism, overshadowing the critical work of CMS and potentially politicizing its operations.

The appointment could create an environment where public health priorities take a backseat to political or personal agendas, with serious consequences for healthcare policy and administration.

 


If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology, right or left. 

Maturity in discussion means the ability to separate ideas from identity so one can easily recognize new, irrefutable information as valid, and to fully integrate it into one’s perspective—even if it challenges deeply held beliefs. Both recognition and integration are crucial: the former acknowledges truth, while the latter ensures we are guided by it. 

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